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Two Americans Arrested in Philippines
Associated Press ^ | 12/29/03 | TERESA CEROJANO

Posted on 12/29/2003 8:26:29 AM PST by TexKat

MANILA, Philippines - Two American brothers were arrested for possible links to terrorism, a Philippine official said Monday.

Michael Ray Stubbs and his brother James, a convert to Islam, have been held at an undisclosed location since they were arrested earlier this month 21 miles southwest of Manila, an immigration intelligence official said on condition of anonymity.

The official said the brothers were of Middle Eastern origin but gave no other details. It was not clear what charges they could face or why authorities believe they may be linked to terrorism.

The two were to be brought before the media on Tuesday, when more information was expected.

It was also not known where they were from in the United States. The U.S. Embassy could not immediately be reached for comment.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: captured; convertstoislam; jamesstubbs; jihadinamerica; manila; michaelraystubbs; philippines; southeastasia
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1 posted on 12/29/2003 8:26:29 AM PST by TexKat
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To: honway; OKCSubmariner; aristeides; thinden
It was also not known where they were from in the United States.

I'll take a guess; either Michigan or Florida.

2 posted on 12/29/2003 8:28:59 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
The official said the brothers were of Middle Eastern origin but gave no other details.

When did they receive their American citizenship?

Or does the author mean they are of Middle Eastern descent?

Michael Ray Stubbs and his brother James, a convert to Islam,

Religon of peace alert.
No terrorists here, just Islamic converts. </sarcasm>

3 posted on 12/29/2003 8:33:40 AM PST by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe; Fred Mertz
Seems most unlikely that a Christian American of Middle Eastern descent would convert to Islam. I suspect there's some confusion in this report: maybe the brother is a convert to Islam only in the Islamists' sense, that a Moslem is only a true Moslem when he converts to Islamism (fundamentalist Islam.)
4 posted on 12/29/2003 8:38:39 AM PST by aristeides
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To: TexKat
How dare they label them as being "middle eastern". Heads should roll.
6 posted on 12/29/2003 8:40:19 AM PST by cynicom
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To: Just another Joe
Probably white trash food stamp dead enders. I am viewing with alarm the rising numbers of average white boys, mere losers, being quietly recruited in American prisons and junk yards and stock car racing parking lots here and there, to join Islamofascism, for whatever anti social reasons. "Allah Akhbar, y'all." I'm not kidding here.

We might all have our eyes peeled looking for an swarthy, Arabic type to take down the next airplane, and could turn out the fiends would look as Northern European as you can get. I also wonder if there is an "Aryan Nations - Islamofascism" alliance, made in hell, in the workings. You know, the usual sentiments by losers that can be easily demogogued or coopted: Anti US, anti Fed Gov, anti Jewish, pro Palestinian, isolationist, survivalists, PETA types, anarchists, whatever, etc. etc. etc....

7 posted on 12/29/2003 8:45:45 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; still, we only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: MEG33; Ragtime Cowgirl; windchime; Grampa Dave; blackie; radu; Dog
Manila Arrests Two Americans, Probes Al Qaeda Link

MANILA (Reuters) - The Philippines has arrested and interrogated two American brothers, one of whom is on a U.S. watch list for active links to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network, intelligence and immigration officials said on Monday.

Michael Ray Stubbs and his brother James, a Muslim convert, were expected to be paraded before the media on Tuesday, 10 days after their arrest in Tanza town, south of the capital Manila.

Immigration officials said the brothers faced charges of violating the country's immigration act and would be subject to deportation proceedings.

They said the brothers were questioned to find out the extent of their involvement with al Qaeda, which Washington blames for the attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001.

Both Americans are of Middle Eastern descent and married to Filipinos, one intelligence official told Reuters, adding that James Stubbs also uses a Muslim name, Jamil Daud Mujahid. He is on the U.S. watch list.

Intelligence sources said Michael Ray Stubbs works in a state-run, high-security nuclear and biological research facility in the United States.

"These guys had slipped through the tight U.S. watch list but we were lucky to get them here," a senior naval intelligence official told Reuters. "The Americans were completely taken by surprise when informed about the arrest of these two men."

He said the brothers were looking to buy property and had met regularly in the Philippines for the past several years.

The Philippines, which is battling several homegrown Muslim and communist rebel groups, has also suffered deadly attacks by militants linked to al Qaeda.

A series of bombings in Manila on December 30, 2000, killed 22 people and wounded hundreds. The attacks were blamed on Jemaah Islamiah, a Southeast Asian group affiliated with al Qaeda.

Philippine security forces went on heightened watch a week ago after Washington raised its alert level over what it said were high risks of attacks on U.S. targets around the world.

8 posted on 12/29/2003 8:47:51 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Stratfor covered it. Below is the Google snippet, the page is now gone and it's not in the Google cache:

... Brothers James and Michael Ray Stubbs were captured south of Manila in Tanza and authorities are investigating whether they are Jordanians or Americans of...

9 posted on 12/29/2003 8:48:31 AM PST by angkor
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To: Fred Mertz
Michael Ray Stubbs does not sound like a ME name either.
10 posted on 12/29/2003 8:49:58 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Wow!
11 posted on 12/29/2003 8:50:10 AM PST by MEG33 (We Got Him!)
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To: TexKat
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3829510/
2 U.S. brothers held in Philippines
One is on U.S. terrorism watchlist
Updated: 8:29 a.m. ET Dec. 29, 2003

MANILA, Philippines - The Philippines has arrested and interrogated two American brothers, one of whom is on a U.S. watchlist for active links to Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida network, intelligence and immigration officials said on Monday.

Michael Ray Stubbs and his brother James, a Muslim convert, were expected to be paraded before the media on Tuesday, 10 days after their arrest in Tanza, a town south of the capital Manila.

Immigration officials said the brothers faced charges of violating the country’s immigration act and would be subject to deportation proceedings.

They said the brothers were questioned to find out the extent of their involvement with al-Qaida, which Washington blames for the attacks on the United States on Sept. 11, 2001.

Both Americans are of Middle Eastern descent and married to Filipinos, one intelligence official told Reuters, adding that James Stubbs also uses a Muslim name, Jamil Daud Mujahid. He is on the U.S. watchlist.

Intelligence sources said Michael Ray Stubbs works in a state-run, high-security nuclear and biological research facility in the United States.

“These guys had slipped through the tight U.S. watchlist but we were lucky to get them here,” a senior naval intelligence official told Reuters. “The Americans were completely taken by surprise when informed about the arrest of these two men.”

He said the brothers were looking to buy property and had met regularly in the Philippines for the past several years.

The Philippines, which is battling several homegrown Muslim and communist rebel groups, has also suffered deadly attacks by militants linked to al-Qaida.

A series of bombings in Manila on December 30, 2000, killed 22 people and wounded hundreds. The attacks were blamed on Jemaah Islamiah, a Southeast Asian group affiliated with al-Qaida.

Philippine security forces went on heightened watch a week ago after Washington raised its alert level over what it said were high risks of attacks on U.S. targets around the world.

Copyright 2003 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters.

Two suspected members
of terror network nabbed

Posted: 10:37 AM (Manila Time) | Dec. 23, 2003
Inquirer News Service

GOVERNMENT agents arrested two suspected members of the regional terror network Jemaah Islamiyah recently, the Bureau of Immigration said Monday.

The bureau's intelligence chief, Faisal Hussein, identified the suspects as James Stubbs Jr., who is also known as Jamil Daoud Mujahid, and his brother Michael Ray Stubbs.

Sketchy reports said the two were arrested by a group of immigration and naval intelligence agents in an operation in the town of Tanza in Cavite province, outside Manila, last Dec. 13. They were brought to the Bicutan area of Metro Manila for tactical interrogation.

Hussein told reporters that the suspects, both Jordanians, said they were businessmen and denied any link to the Jemaah Islamiyah.

The Philippine military has launched a manhunt for 31 Jemaah Islamiyah operatives believed to be in the southern island of Mindanao, where they are believed to be maintaining facilities to train recruits in bomb-making and other terrorist tactics.

The Jemaah Islamiyah has been blamed for a string of terrorist strikes in Southeast, Asia including the Oct. 12, 2002, bombings in Bali, Indonesia, that killed 202 people and the attack on the J.W. Marriott Hotel in Jakarta in August, in which 12 people died.

The Jemaah Islamiyah, which envisions a Pan-Islamic state in Southeast Asia, is believed to have links to the al-Qaeda terror group of Osama bin-Laden.

http://www.inq7.net/brk/2003/dec/23/brkpol_8-1.htm


12 posted on 12/29/2003 8:50:19 AM PST by deport ( Some folks wear their halos much too tight...)
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To: TexKat
hang em
13 posted on 12/29/2003 8:50:59 AM PST by petercooper (DEAN = Democrats Experiencing Another Nightmare)
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To: TexKat
this story was taken from www.inq7.net

URL: http://www.inq7.net/brk/2003/dec/23/text/brkpol_8-1-p.htm



Two suspected members
of terror network nabbed

Posted:10:37 AM (Manila Time) | Dec. 23, 2003
Inquirer News Service

GOVERNMENT agents arrested two suspected members of the regional terror network Jemaah Islamiyah recently, the Bureau of Immigration said Monday.

The bureau's intelligence chief, Faisal Hussein, identified the suspects as James Stubbs Jr., who is also known as Jamil Daoud Mujahid, and his brother Michael Ray Stubbs.

Sketchy reports said the two were arrested by a group of immigration and naval intelligence agents in an operation in the town of Tanza in Cavite province, outside Manila, last Dec. 13. They were brought to the Bicutan area of Metro Manila for tactical interrogation.

Hussein told reporters that the suspects, both Jordanians, said they were businessmen and denied any link to the Jemaah Islamiyah.

The Philippine military has launched a manhunt for 31 Jemaah Islamiyah operatives believed to be in the southern island of Mindanao, where they are believed to be maintaining facilities to train recruits in bomb-making and other terrorist tactics.

The Jemaah Islamiyah has been blamed for a string of terrorist strikes in Southeast, Asia including the Oct. 12, 2002, bombings in Bali, Indonesia, that killed 202 people and the attack on the J.W. Marriott Hotel in Jakarta in August, in which 12 people died.

The Jemaah Islamiyah, which envisions a Pan-Islamic state in Southeast Asia, is believed to have links to the al-Qaeda terror group of Osama bin-Laden.

©2003 www.inq7.net all rights reserved

14 posted on 12/29/2003 8:51:33 AM PST by angkor
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To: deport
Another snippet from Stratfor says they might be of Yemeni descent.
15 posted on 12/29/2003 8:53:48 AM PST by angkor
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To: angkor
Their real names (James Stubbs Jr and Michael Ray Stubbs) makes me think of these guys:

Top row, left to right: Patrice Lumumba Ford, October Martinique Lewis and Jeffrey Leon Battle. Bottom row, left to right: Muhammad Ibrahim Bilal, Ahmed Ibrahim Bilal, and Habis Abdulla Al-Saoub are seen in these undated handout photos.

16 posted on 12/29/2003 9:06:57 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: deport
"Intelligence sources said Michael Ray Stubbs works in a state-run, high-security nuclear and biological research facility in the United States."

“These guys had slipped through the tight U.S. watchlist but we were lucky to get them here,” a senior naval intelligence official told Reuters. “The Americans were completely taken by surprise when informed about the arrest of these two men.”


For a little insight to the Navy's CIS go to the link below:

http://www-nmcp.med.navy.mil/ncis/index.asp
17 posted on 12/29/2003 9:18:43 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Kaddaffi, "I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq. ")
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To: thinden
Interesting...I wonder if their password was, "Timmy and Terry sent us..."
18 posted on 12/29/2003 9:24:29 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: TexKat
Hang 'Em High ~ Bump!

Be Well ~ Be Armed ~ Be Safe ~ Molon Labe!
19 posted on 12/29/2003 9:35:37 AM PST by blackie
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I also wonder if there is an "Aryan Nations - Islamofascism" alliance, made in hell, in the workings.

Sounds like WWI and WWII. The Germans were always allies with the Islamic countries and independent Islamofacists.

20 posted on 12/29/2003 9:39:58 AM PST by SuziQ
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