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Link Between Mad Cow Disease and Human Deaths Questioned (BSE May Not Cause nvCJD)
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| Oct. 11, 2001
| By Salynn Boyles
Posted on 12/25/2003 1:28:53 PM PST by Pubbie
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Merry Christmas Freepers - And keep eating Beef just like Doctor Atkins said to do because Prions probably don't survive the Human digestive tract!
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posted on
12/25/2003 1:28:54 PM PST
by
Pubbie
To: Pubbie
...there is no clear evidence to prove that mad cow disease can be transmitted to humans by ingesting contaminated meat products. He adds that the case for such transmission is weak.Thanks for posting this article.
I think I'll go make more room in the freezer.
To: Pubbie
That period of time could be anywhere from 10 to 60 years Upper limit is 60 years? Would this put the average range around 30-40 years then? I think I'll keep snarfing Big Macs...
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posted on
12/25/2003 1:57:43 PM PST
by
Mudcat
To: Pubbie
bump for a later read.
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:16:48 PM PST
by
secret garden
(Gloria in excelis Deo)
To: Pubbie
Mark Purdey has done a lot of study on this and has come up with conclusions along the same lines. It takes awhile to go through his site but it as a lot of good information.
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:29:27 PM PST
by
fella
To: Pubbie
Although slightly more than 100 deaths have been attributed to eating contaminated beef, some researchers speculate that millions of people may one day fall victims... but scientists know nothing yet ... That period of time could be anywhere from 10 to 60 years.
To me, this sounds like a clear case of Bad Science desease (BS desease). It's certanly spreading fast. Freon, global warming, cold fusion - all examples of how trustworthy our liberal academia have become. After 60 years any age related desease can be speculatively attributed to anything. AIDS producing behaviour is glorified (20,000 deaths per year, US only) but eating just "strikes fear". But hey, I don't blame them - tax dollars for BS grants... yummmmy.
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posted on
12/25/2003 2:53:32 PM PST
by
singsong
(Jesus the Saviour!)
To: Pubbie
The odds of being struck by a meat delivery truck on my way into the store to buy a roast are astronomically higher than getting CJD.
Prairie
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posted on
12/25/2003 3:39:15 PM PST
by
prairiebreeze
(Rejoice in the love God has shown by sending His Son to live among us and in our hearts.)
To: singsong
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posted on
12/25/2003 3:41:21 PM PST
by
Wooly
To: Pubbie
because Prions probably don't survive the Human digestive tract! Then why do cannibals who eat brains develop kuru?
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posted on
12/25/2003 3:43:22 PM PST
by
torstars
To: Pubbie
The type of prion is determined by looking at pathology in animal hosts who develop disease through experimental infection. The pathology shows that BSE and vCJD are caused by the same mis-folded prion.
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posted on
12/25/2003 3:45:42 PM PST
by
torstars
To: Pubbie
It's been reported one of the CJD victims in the UK was a vegetarian. I wonder how many cases per year are seen here?
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posted on
12/25/2003 3:47:49 PM PST
by
lizma
To: torstars
The type of prion is determined by looking at pathology in animal hosts who develop disease through experimental infection. The pathology shows that BSE and vCJD are caused by the same mis-folded prion. Yes but we all have the normal folded protein. Is it possible that the vCJD prions assumed its characteristic conformation independent of interaction with BSE prions?
To: torstars
The pathology shows that BSE and vCJD are caused by the same mis-folded prion.Might you provide references on the pathologic research that shows what you describe?
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posted on
12/25/2003 3:59:48 PM PST
by
toddst
To: Pubbie
I am a devoted carnivore, so don't get me wrong.... I just have to say there seem to be some missing parts to this report. It is my understanding vCJD can only be documented thru the autopsy process. No mention of such after death tests here. And if the tests are not done, how many cases have been missed?
The meat I feed my family is fed on a neighbor's farm and processed at a local locker plant. Not everyone has this luxury. But for those who have the option, it is a way to be fairly certain what the livestock have been fed.
To: lizma
I wonder how many cases per year are seen here?Regular CJD strikes approximately one person per million in any world-wide population. It often effects the elderly and disregards socio-economic levels, race, nationality etc. and has nothing to do with diet. vCJD was a strain of CJD that showed some differences, it attacked younger people for instance, and was first diagnosed in Europe in the late '80's, when scientific evidence began to suggest a possible link between vCJD and BSE in cattle. This became a political issue in Europe that was quickly blown into a major health scare, predicting 10,000 deaths from vCJD by 2000 with another 1000-2000 new cases each year after that. But in fact, none of these dire predictions ever materialized.
To date, 137 deaths worldwide have been attibuted to vCJD since the late 1980's. Six other known cases are in people who are still living. There has never been a confirmed vCJD case in the US except for the woman who contracted the disease in Britain but came back to FL to be with her family when she died.
Prairie
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posted on
12/25/2003 4:36:52 PM PST
by
prairiebreeze
(Rejoice in the love God has shown by sending His Son to live among us and in our hearts.)
To: Pubbie
Petersen says studies have shown that the molecular signatures of BSE and new variant CJD are virtually identical. "Virtually identical" means "different."
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posted on
12/25/2003 4:41:53 PM PST
by
Eala
(Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
To: rmmcdaniell
Is it possible that the vCJD prions assumed its characteristic conformation independent of interaction with BSE prions? The disease in experimental animals is the same for BSE and vCJD.
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posted on
12/25/2003 4:50:24 PM PST
by
torstars
To: Wooly
WebMD is a bullsheetrock source designed to make hypochondriacs into lifetime cash cows.
Not to be trusted as your 'doctor on the internet'. I have had a problem with their marketing since they opened. I feel it is disingenuous to average consumers.
To: Eala
"Virtually identical" means "different." No, it means that both are quite different than CJD.
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posted on
12/25/2003 4:53:56 PM PST
by
torstars
To: Pubbie
I love articles like this. The "link" between Mad Cow Disease and human death has never even come remotely close to being established at any level beyond the paranoid ravings of people trying to sell newspapers.
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posted on
12/25/2003 4:56:47 PM PST
by
discostu
(that's a waste of a perfectly good white boy)
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