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Throwing Stones at Jews is based in Ancient Islamic Ritual
Eretz Isroel ^ | Dec. 2003 | Joseph E. Katz

Posted on 12/23/2003 3:27:14 PM PST by dianaA

During the Hajj pilgrimage there is a ritual in which pilgrims stone a pillar symbolising the devil near the holy city of Mecca. Islamic sermons repeatedly emphasize the connection between the Jews and Satan. What is the proper way to deal with an insolent Jew? To throw stones.

Dr. Abdul Halim Mahmoud, rector of Cairo’s al-Ashar University, theologically and politically the most influential university in Islamdom: “Allah commands Moslems to fight the friends of Satan wherever they are to be found. Among the friends of Satan—indeed, among the foremost friends of Satan in the present age—are the Jews.”1

Just after the turn of the present century, the British vice-consul in Mosul wrote a report that illustrated the nature of the "traditional relationship" between Muslim and Jew in a less volatile moment:

The attitude of the Moslems toward the Christians and Jews, to whom as stated above, they are in a majority of ten to one, is that of a master towards slaves whom he treats with a certain lordly tolerance so long as they keep their place. Any sign of pretension to equality is promptly repressed. It is often noticed in the streets that almost any Christian submissively makes way even for a Moslem child. Only a few days ago the writer saw two respectable looking, middle-aged Jews walking in a garden. A small Moslem boy, who could not have been more than 8 years old, passed by and, as he did so, picked up a large stone and threw it at them -- and then another -- with the utmost nonchalance, just as a small boy elsewhere might aim at a dog or bird. The Jews stopped and avoided the aim, which was a good one, but made no further protest.2 Perhaps the definitive historian on the North African Jews, H. Z. Hirschberg, notes that in fifteenth-century Tunis, several Jews held "positions of honor." To a Western-oriented reader, the "position of honor" would indicate freedom from persecution. Yet an authenticated and respected document of that period, written by a visiting Flemish nobleman, describes Tunisian Jews as "despised and hated." After noting the privileged positions of local Christians, the nobleman wrote: The Jews, on the other hand, have no freedom. They must all pay a heavy ... tax. They wear special clothes, different from those of the Moors. If they did not do so, they would be stoned, and they therefore put a yellow cloth on their heads or necks; their women dare not even wear shoes. They are much despised and hated, more than even the Latin Christians....3 A teacher was sent from Beirut in 1910 to assess the constant reports of travail for the Yemenite Jews. He noted that, after more than a week, I have made myself acquainted with the life of the Jews in all its phases.... They are exceedingly unfortunate.... If they are abused, they listen in silence as though they had not understood; if they are attacked by an Arab boy with stones, they flee...4 According to nineteenth-century historians, some Jewish families in Aleppo -which, like Alexandria, was an atypically tolerant cosmopolitan center of international commerce -- were affluent and relatively safe. Others, even in Aleppo, who were less well-connected were "subject to violence and oppression from various quarters.".5 Money was extorted by officials on every pretext, petty bullying was commonplace, and one Jew reported that "When a Jew walked among them [the Muslims] in the market, one would throw a stone at him in order to kill him, another would pull his beard and a third his ear lock, yet another spit on his face and he became a symbol of abuse."".6 1. Dr. Abdul Halim Mahmoud as quoted by Prof Paul Eidelberg, in "PLO Terrorism and the Grand Strategy", Palestinian Media Watch, March 12, 2001

2.Lewis, Islam in History, p. 319, n. 9. Lewis gives an illustration of the "traditional relationship" between Muslim and Jew from a report by H.E. Wilkie Young, the British Vice-Consul in Mosul, written January 1909, Middle Eastern Studies, vii (1971), p. 232.

3. Ansehn Adome, a Flemish nobleman, visited Tunis in 1470. R. Brunschvig, Deux k I Ricits de Voyage Inidits en Aftique du Nord (Paris, 19 36), p. 29b/ 15 8, p. 192; cited by Hirschberg, History, pp. 475-476.

4. Reported by Yomtov Zemach, Bulletin de I'Alliance Israelite Universelle, 1910, Beirut.

5. See E.B.B. Barker, Syria and Egypt Under the Last Five Sultans of Turkey (London, 1876), vol. I, p. 306; H.L. Bodman, Political Factions in Aleppo, 1760-1826 (North Carolina, 1963), pp. 45, 48,102; Ma'oz, "Change, in the Position," Studies on Palestine, pp. 145-146,

6. M.M. Raysher, Shaarei Yerushalayim (Lemberg, 1866), p. 29. on extortion, see Ma'oz, "Changes in the Position," Studies on Palestine, pp. 145-156.

This page was produced by Joseph E. Katz Middle Eastern Political and Religious History Analyst Brooklyn, New York

see also: http://netwmd.com/articles/article332.html


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: boysthrowingrocks; dhimmi; dhimmitude; hajj; intifada; islam; jews; jewsinislam; mohammedanism; muslims; rock; stone; stoning; throwingrocks; throwingstones
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1 posted on 12/23/2003 3:27:15 PM PST by dianaA
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To: dianaA
more on this topic: http://netwmd.com/articles/article332.html
2 posted on 12/23/2003 3:28:17 PM PST by dianaA
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To: dianaA
Welcome to Free Republic. If you have'nt read it, I suggest "Preachers of Hate" by K. Timmerman for a truly hair-raising look at Arab anti-semitism.
3 posted on 12/23/2003 3:30:38 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Saddam looked like he could use a "Baath Party".)
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To: yonif
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4 posted on 12/23/2003 3:31:15 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Saddam looked like he could use a "Baath Party".)
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To: dianaA; SJackson
BUMP! Good find! Pinging...
5 posted on 12/23/2003 3:36:49 PM PST by Paul Ross (Reform Islam Now! -- Nuke Mecca!)
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To: dianaA
I think most Muslims would be well advised that throwing stones at Jews, in the form of the State of Israel, is a really, really bad idea.

"Insolence" would be the least of their worries

6 posted on 12/23/2003 3:42:42 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: dianaA
Throwing stones at the devil near Mecca isn't part of the religion but it was just something that started several years ago and can't be stopped because many think throwing them is required by their religion.
7 posted on 12/23/2003 3:42:54 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: dianaA
What is the proper way to deal with an insolent Jew? To throw stones.

What was it that Sean Connery said about bringing a knife to a gun fight?

8 posted on 12/23/2003 3:48:09 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: dianaA
When and where were the Muslims ever treated so?
9 posted on 12/23/2003 3:50:50 PM PST by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: semaj
"When and where were the muslims ever treated so?"
In the soon to be future!!
10 posted on 12/23/2003 3:54:37 PM PST by Coroner
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To: muir_redwoods
I think most Muslims would be well advised that throwing stones at Jews, in the form of the State of Israel, is a really, really bad idea.

Yeah, but look at the good results they get from throwing stones at religion of the family that owns the New York Times. The Times is about as deferential to the Islamists as it is possible to get.

11 posted on 12/23/2003 3:54:40 PM PST by 07055
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To: dianaA
". . . the friends of Satan . . . "

Sounds like a Hollywood special interest activist group.

12 posted on 12/23/2003 4:20:19 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: BenLurkin
Throwing nukes at muzzies might become a new tradition.
This religion sucks.
How come no one ever debates these kinds of articles, anywhere? Could it be because they are true?
I truely believe that muzzizzlam is the religion of Satan.
These people are modern-day savages.

(But I mean that in a good way, Mr. Moderator)
13 posted on 12/23/2003 4:31:17 PM PST by baltodog (When you're hanging from a hook, you gotta' get a bigger boat, or something like that.)
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To: dianaA
Muslims in the last 50 years or so, since Israels birth, have been attacking and causing war with Israel.
And Israel has in those last 50 or so years been kicking the hell out of those same Muslims.
Not too bright, I mean if you keep getting the stuffing kicked out of you, you might alter your behavior.
14 posted on 12/23/2003 4:39:48 PM PST by Joe Boucher (G.W. Bush in 2004)
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To: dianaA
People throwing stones at people is as olds as- well, people and stones.
15 posted on 12/23/2003 4:42:40 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Joe Boucher
The palesites are very fiendky...
16 posted on 12/23/2003 4:44:41 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty
"fiendly"
17 posted on 12/23/2003 4:49:16 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: dianaA
Barbara Streisand
18 posted on 12/23/2003 4:51:11 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: dianaA
"pilgrims stone a pillar symbolising the devil"

These poor deluded souls! Then they pray to a "god" of violence, revenge, terror, war, slavery, mutilation, torture, and death. Who in hell do these poor benighted people think this "god" is?

19 posted on 12/23/2003 5:20:07 PM PST by Savage Beast (The delusional hate truth. It threatens delusions. They also hate the bearers of truth.)
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Stones and shoes are the only weapons they have ever made. Unbelievable.
20 posted on 12/23/2003 5:22:20 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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