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Ridge to raise Terror Alert, news conf. 1:30 pm Eastern
Fox News-TV

Posted on 12/21/2003 9:34:27 AM PST by putupon

announcement, nothing furthur


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; defconernie; homelandsecurity; orange; orangealert4; shieldsup; turbanalert; waronterror; wot
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To: relee
caught my attention too
621 posted on 12/21/2003 1:29:06 PM PST by oceanperch
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To: FairOpinion
SIMULTANEOUS attacks

As you said on a previous post and stupid me kept concentrating on the US, and searching for ways to dispel the elevated warning.

622 posted on 12/21/2003 1:30:06 PM PST by StarFan
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To: Pubbie
I will take the HS Dept seriously when they stop BS ing and a politician pitch man is not in charge.
623 posted on 12/21/2003 1:30:33 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: relee
Thanks. Have you heard anything further?
624 posted on 12/21/2003 1:30:39 PM PST by StarFan
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To: Pubbie

Q: With all the talk about going to orange, was there ever any discussion, was the level of chatter ever serious or high enough that you thought of going to red?

RIDGE: When we convened those that we get together and have the discussion about the quality of the information and the kinds of actions we should take, whether or not we go up to orange or whether we go to more specific actions, no. I mean, but, again, I think it's very important to note that ever since 9-11, from the early morning hours when the president meets with the intelligence community and the attorney general and the FBI director and everybody else, there's been a continued focus not only on the war on terror abroad, but the war on terror and its impact in the United States.

625 posted on 12/21/2003 1:31:36 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: mathluv
I like War Stories

Yeah, me too, forgot about that show. Love Ollie North.

626 posted on 12/21/2003 1:31:45 PM PST by riri
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To: Syncro
There are about 30,000 American expats in Saudi, not 3,000.

And most expats don't get as nervous about U.S. Consular Warden Announcements as you might think (having personally been through a coup d'etat while working abroad). Here's an example:

U.S. expatriates in Saudi Arabia like life on the edge
The Seattle Times Company, Sunday, November 30, 2003

"Every day, there's another warden's message (from the U.S. Embassy), but you get used to it," says Richards, 45, who has lived in five countries and traveled through more than 40. "You adjust." Lured by good pay, tax breaks and a resort-style life inside walled compounds, Americans still flock to a variety of business and technical jobs in Saudi Arabia, despite being prime targets for al-Qaida terrorists seeking to destabilize the ruling monarchy and rid the kingdom of Western influence. ...

"Kalin described expatriates as "a hardy lot." She noted that many of them and the more than 150 U.S. diplomats in Saudi Arabia have held hardship assignments in other countries and are accustomed to life on the edge.

627 posted on 12/21/2003 1:33:09 PM PST by angkor
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To: hummingbird
Saddam's going to trial, no question about that. More important is all the stuff we have found since we invaded Iraq. The U.N., the French, Germans and Russians must be quaking in their boots. Libya gave up...who else is on the horizon? The terrorists and leftists can try to distract and I believe they'll try a big attack in desperation.

The terrorists have the advantage. We are a huge country with major coastline. There is no 100% solution, as we in South Florida know. Closing access to Mexican or Canadian borders would be an expensive bandaid on just one sore spot.

628 posted on 12/21/2003 1:33:14 PM PST by debg
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To: angkor
Thanks!

I knew it was a 3 with some zeros behind it...left one off.

:>)
629 posted on 12/21/2003 1:36:38 PM PST by Syncro
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To: Catspaw
But remember, we're from Wisconsin

Yep. We are from NY, mainly. My family, basically, thinks they are cultured and I have turned into a rogue, red neck ready to leave for a unibomber cabin any day since I left the northeast.

Never mind the fact that I live in the 5th largest city myself, my husband and I are both educated professionals, we have lived outside of the country, etc.

630 posted on 12/21/2003 1:37:23 PM PST by riri
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To: oceanview
I didn't think about gassing the passengers. Do the cockpits have gas masks? Could they gas the pilots too?
631 posted on 12/21/2003 1:38:23 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: putupon
So who's going to look like the clown when it the next terrorists come across the wide open Mexican border?

Why cross the hot dessert and dodge drug dealers and crooked cops, when you fly directly into Logan Airport or cross the bridge into the US at Windsor, Canada. Give us a break, lamebrain.

And who will be the lamebrain then, the Ridge bashers or the Homeland Security Chief who wants to give blanket amnesty to illegal aliens?

And what does this terror alert have to do with Ridge's belief that we probably will have to provide legal worker status to Mexicans entering the country? But since you raise the issue, where do you want Ridge to devote his attention? To terrorists or every Hispanic in this country. Seems you feel a little "putupon" by the brown man. Maybe even more so than the neigbhorhood Jidadist. Get over it.

632 posted on 12/21/2003 1:39:01 PM PST by Dave S
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To: sarcasm
Sounds like Jibberish to me.
633 posted on 12/21/2003 1:39:03 PM PST by Pubbie (* Bill Owens 2008 *)
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To: Yaelle
well, the entire plane has oxygen, so the pilots could deploy that I guess. they have oxygen in the cockpit.

the bottom line: keeping the terrorists out of the cockpit is the key. forget about what is going on in the cabin.
634 posted on 12/21/2003 1:41:56 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Pubbie
Here's some more information.

...Some of the intercepted communications and other intelligence mentions New York, Washington and unspecified cities on the West Coast, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. Authorities also are concerned about dams, bridges, nuclear plants, chemical facilities and other public works....

635 posted on 12/21/2003 1:42:29 PM PST by relee
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To: Willie Green
OK, so what're we supposed to do? Boil water???

No, get a job and quit whining about the economy.

636 posted on 12/21/2003 1:45:33 PM PST by Dave S
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To: relee
Authorities also are concerned about dams, bridges, nuclear plants, chemical facilities and other public works....

So basically, it is the same sh**, different threat level rising.

My theory. It's Christmas, there is increased "chatter". Whenever they do this, it seems to result in an attack not happening. So, they keep with it.

Did you ever try to fix something that isn't working and you try some really obscure thing and it works. So, whenever said object breaks you just keep applying technique. That's what this reminds me of.

637 posted on 12/21/2003 1:48:06 PM PST by riri
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To: oceanview
forget about what is going on in the cabin.

Right. Get that plane down safely at the next airport no matter what is going on in the cabin.

638 posted on 12/21/2003 1:48:06 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: StarFan
Not yet. A CBS news update on WTOP news at 4:30 had
Professor Raymond Tanner, a former national security staffer, saying nothing new. I'll try to listen at 5 PM.
639 posted on 12/21/2003 1:48:57 PM PST by relee
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To: camas
"when they could not find the white house i think they hit the pentagon???"

So? That is not changing the plan. That is the same as picking a different teller during a bank robbery. It is an adjustment, not a contingency plan.
640 posted on 12/21/2003 1:49:10 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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