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Ridge to raise Terror Alert, news conf. 1:30 pm Eastern
Fox News-TV

Posted on 12/21/2003 9:34:27 AM PST by putupon

announcement, nothing furthur


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; defconernie; homelandsecurity; orange; orangealert4; shieldsup; turbanalert; waronterror; wot
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To: TomGuy
Instead, he would expect something like 5 stinger missiles at different locations to take out 5 airbuses at the same moment.

The impact would not be that great --i.e., approx. 300 people per plane or 1200 total. Ridge said it will rival and exceed 9/11 which would mean well over 3,000.

321 posted on 12/21/2003 11:12:30 AM PST by StarFan
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To: oceanview
I thinks 'red' would be similar to what President Bush did on Sept. 11, grounding all aircraft.
322 posted on 12/21/2003 11:12:35 AM PST by relee
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To: putupon
Concern, yes, but America isn't in hiding.

The streets are filled with Christmas shoppers.


323 posted on 12/21/2003 11:13:09 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: debg
The Bush family is supposed to travel to Texas after Christmas day.
324 posted on 12/21/2003 11:13:26 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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I can't believe they're interviewing tourists in New York about what they think about the raising of the terror alert level. Sheesh!
325 posted on 12/21/2003 11:13:31 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: sakic
all scheduled plane trips were cancelled? for god's sake, Barbara Olson was killed on one of the 9/11 planes, don't you think her husband would have told her about it?
326 posted on 12/21/2003 11:13:44 AM PST by oceanview
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To: sakic
Well, we do know Hillary canceled her plans for the day, and Bubba was out of the country. Seems Gore was missing, but maybe I'm wrong on that.
327 posted on 12/21/2003 11:13:44 AM PST by Lucy Lake (Spell check is a great invention, so are turn signals.)
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To: goodnesswins
Did you hear about the 10? Venezuelan pilots relieved of THEIR DUTIES...in the last few days sometime?

I read (I think in Newsweek) that dictator Chavez of Venezuela was handing out passports like candy to AlQueda types.

328 posted on 12/21/2003 11:13:59 AM PST by NeoCaveman (The only thing found in the middle of the road are yellow streaks and roadkill)
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To: debg
They ALWAYS go to Camp David for Christmas....then go the the Ranch right afterwards....family tradition (as long as one of them is in office.)
329 posted on 12/21/2003 11:14:02 AM PST by goodnesswins (Happy HOLY Days)
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To: TomGuy
Ummmm...

Speaking of overhyped threats, the whole "Stinger" thing is one of them. The IR seeker head is a very complex piece of equipment and relies on a specialized battery with a definite shelf life, and they've long expired (all the ones given to the Mujahedin in Afghanistan, that is.)

And I'd estimate that probably 8 out of 10 or 9 out of 10 airliners would survive a hit from a Soviet SA-7.

Not that getting hit with one is a trivial thing (ask the pilots of that DHL plane in Baghdad) but the warheads are awfully tiny.
330 posted on 12/21/2003 11:14:10 AM PST by John H K
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To: knak
can someone tell me what ridge said? Someone showed up at my door a few minutes after the story came up.

He said all citizens should immediately cover their entire house in plastic sheeting and duct tape.

Remove your Ernie doll from its case and activate its "anti-terrorist sniffer" function

331 posted on 12/21/2003 11:14:13 AM PST by WackyKat
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To: Miss Marple
I know what you're saying but I think Tom alluded to enough for me ... planes, transportation ... . I wasn't expecting him to say, "stay away from Times Square in NYC since we expect it to be attacked by a plane on 12/24/03 at 7PM. ;)
332 posted on 12/21/2003 11:14:23 AM PST by nmh
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To: oceanview
Sorry, but 'Major Bob' is a BS artist. He4 owns a lucrative private security company that is making sick money from stuff like this, and as the owner, is therefore biased.

I have watched him carefully for 2 years. I'm sure of it.
333 posted on 12/21/2003 11:14:31 AM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: debg
They will spend Christmas at Camp David with their family, as they have done every year. This allows Doro, Marvin, and their families to get there without excessive travel, since they travel privately.

After Christmas they will go to Texas. They spend the time till after New Year's there.

This is no different than their other three Christmases.

334 posted on 12/21/2003 11:14:32 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Right_in_Virginia
On Fox news they are talking about stinger missiles shooting down aircraft while on MSNBC they are talking about bombs being planted on aircraft. Either one would raise the level to red, IMO.
335 posted on 12/21/2003 11:14:49 AM PST by relee
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To: Right_in_Virginia
real intel, like the kind of stuff you see on "24" with Jack Bauer, someone telling the CIA or FBI in person or with a direct intercept that an operation was in progress or imminent. like had we captured Mousaoui on 9/9 or 9/10 and he was spilling his guts.
336 posted on 12/21/2003 11:15:43 AM PST by oceanview
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To: Miss Marple
I know what you're saying but I think Tom alluded to enough for me ... planes, transportation ... . I wasn't expecting him to say, "stay away from Times Square in NYC since we expect it to be attacked by a plane on 12/24/03 at 7PM. ;)

I was referring to #266.

337 posted on 12/21/2003 11:16:35 AM PST by nmh
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Close the borders?
I'm sure the idea never occurred to him........

BUMP!!!

.......AND round up and deport immediately ALL illegals.

338 posted on 12/21/2003 11:16:38 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: relee
Friday was a triple-witching day too.

Hillary, pelosio, boxer have lunch together
339 posted on 12/21/2003 11:16:41 AM PST by al baby (Ice cream does not have bones)
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To: putupon
Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles

Latest post by Daleel at the Daleel_Al-Mojahid_ Yahoo group. Hi Daleel!!!

31 From: daleel_almojahid1

Date: Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:12am

Subject: An Urgent letter to the American Administration from Al-Qaida

An Urgent letter to the American Administration from Al-Qaida

In the name of God the almighty

It is insane avoiding reading the following words with out having a clear, wise and fast decision.

As soon as possible because time is a critical element in the coming attack and is more important than any time in human history.

We can tell you that the wire has been led up and it's in its final stages and nothing will stop it but God and the wisdom of the Arab rules and the non Arab rules, we can tell you that we are people from you and with in you, planning with you and have knowledge of all your planes.

We warn you that time is running fast so fast that it's getting harder to turn out the led fire in the wire.

And the out come of the attack will be unbelievable and unexpected to you.

Upon that any wrong move the administration takes in directing its policy will lead you to the (cave of darkness)

And that's the name of the coming operation that will stop the (9) and their people and destroy them forever, although we apologize from now to the human race from the hardship that will affect them as an aftermath to the attack, but it is a less hardship for us than to see continents slaved, we apologize in advance to the American people and to the European community's but you have stud hand in hand with your governments and left the Jews take control of the rest of the world.

The childish playing with earth is not a simple thing, we know that and we plane things very carefully more careful than you could ever imagine and also assessed the deaths expected and their numbers that humanity can take.

You know that order number (8) has been issued, but you don't know that we know, and now we tell you and now you know.

And this order is the last life line and the only chance to drop cold water on the led wire, so let it be that your answer to us be fast and with actions from the highest levels in the American administration, and know that we will be all open ears to you and we will be up to date with your answer once you have decided to take the right decision from your side.

We know that you didn't go on doing to the world what your doing with out a long and well study, but we tell you that you don't have much time with us and we wont accept any further thinking or more time, you have started this war not us!

We highly request that the final decision that will come out comes from highly respected people in the administration due to the high boiling point that has reached now and the possibility of stopping this wheel is still on and is not impossible and you know what we mean.

Upon the following facts mentioned, you know our demands well, but we will put them down again so that the world will forgive us for what will happen soon due to your arrogance and childish acts of dictatorship and your love of being under the Jewish rule being slaved under them under all kinds of names.

We here by say, our demands are real and what we ask for is ours, and we wont pull back on the real Christians or Jews, they will find us to be a nation that has believed in God and our religion Islam which is the last religion will haven them all under its wings and will give them more than what they have got from any other religion although we don't believe that any other religion beside the three religions is right.

Our demands,

1. The complete and right away stop of your (masked) invasion of our Islamic lands in any part of the world east or west.

2. Taking out the (illegal immigrants that came back to the land of Palestine) which you have records of all of them in your archives.

3. The return of all the Muslim money stolen in (Gold) not in any kind of money note. As we have mentioned to you before.

4. The returning of the old borders known to you and we press on the northern borders.

5. The release of all our prisoners in your jails whom you know and we know only.

6. The dismantle of the so called (United Nations and its council) in an international decision.

7. We share with you the importance of water and oil and we share the idea of it staying as it is but the pricing of oil is left to us and we promise you to make it available at a reasonable price for poor and for rich nations.

8. we here by advise you to take fast decisions to stop order number (8), it's the thin line between us and you, and you have to answer us as soon as possible, as we told you before the glass of cold water is with in your hands and the wire is in front of you in its final stage to destroying what you have built for years in secret but God has made us be your stopping mountain that appeared upon you, the daylight nightmare that will stand against you, and we know that the smartest in you wont be able to discover how to drop the glass of cold water on our wire with out our help, but you will be forced even if you don't want to. We have given you the solution, so either you are with us or against us, that's your way of thinking isn't it! But we know that you are not with us but you will be forced to be (and we have warned). It is not in our morals to attack you with such a big attack with out a warning, we wont do what you did to us times and times before under the rule of the devilish tree that was planted by (whom you know) feeding it and giving it water with your blessings as you enslaved your self's and your people under their rule.

All you have to do now is to stand up for once a real stand for your own good and the good of your nation and people that will be attacked by total destruction (cave of darkness), and history will re-write that your punishment was a combined punishment of all the nations that came before you and walked your same path. And you will then cry like women in your underground caves.

And it will be fair enough for you to see that for us knowing that you will run away hiding in your underground caves, we will give you a prior few minutes notice before our blessed attack so that you will be able to watch your destruction with your own satellite as we would be by then have passed the sky's of the seventh sky to heaven and your nation to the fires of hell, and what and end for letting you govern them and move them to the direction of hell and what a direction!

Praise to God almighty.

Islamic Jihad Brigade

(Black Death Squad)

8th Squad (Squad of order #8)

(19/19/19/23)

Daleel_Almojahid

Al-Qaida

340 posted on 12/21/2003 11:16:43 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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