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Revealed: The Real Reason For Gaddafi's WMD Surrender
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 12-21-2003 | Julian Coman/Colin Brown

Posted on 12/20/2003 4:28:18 PM PST by blam

Revealed: the real reason for Gaddafi's WMD surrender

By Julian Coman and Colin Brown
(Filed: 21/12/2003)

Libya's promise to surrender its weapons of mass destruction was forced by Britain and America's seizure of physical evidence of Col Muammar Gaddafi's illegal weapons programme, the Telegraph can reveal.

United States officials say that America's hand was strengthened in negotiations with Col Gaddafi after a successful operation, previously undisclosed, to intercept transport suspected of carrying banned weapons.

Col Muammar Gaddafi

The operation is said to have been carried out under the Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI), an international, American-led scheme to halt the spread of WMD by seizing them in transit. The PSI was first mooted by President George W Bush in May but was not officially launched until September.

Last week, a senior official from the US State Department confirmed that the PSI had "netted several seizures", although he refused to give further details.

President Bush and Tony Blair had praised Libya's decision to give up its WMD and allow international inspectors to oversee their destruction.

Mr Bush described it as a "wise and responsible choice" while a statement issued by the Libyan foreign ministry said that the country had agreed "of its own free will" to destroy its unconventional weapons.

The PSI operation, however, added decisively to the pressure already brought to bear on Col Gaddafi by America and Britain as they prepared to attack Iraq in March.

One Cabinet minister said: "It demonstrates that change can be brought about by standing tough. There is no question that this change of heart by Gaddafi was brought about by the fact that the US and Britain were seen to be standing up to and called Saddam Hussein's bluff."

The Travellers Club in Pall Mall, beloved of spy novelists and frequented by senior officers in the intelligence services, was the venue last week for the final breakthrough talks between MI6 and Libyan intelligence officials.

British immigration rules were discreetly changed to allow the Libyans to enter the country on visas. Three Libyan officials met a four-strong British team led by William Ehrman, the director general of defence and intelligence at the Foreign Office, and including two MI6 officers, to agree the text that would be read out on Libyan television on Friday night.

Mr Blair was forced to wait until the Libyan statement had been taken down by the BBC monitoring unit, translated and its contents checked to make sure they tallied with the agreed text before he was given the go-ahead to make his announcement in Durham during the 10pm news broadcasts.

The Government is hoping that the capture of Saddam, the collapse of the European Union constitution talks, and Col Gaddafi's commitment to surrender WMD will boost Mr Blair's standing with his own backbenchers.

"It has been a triple whammy and there is a sense of success at the end of this year," said a Downing Street official. "It is important domestically, but it is also important internationally."

At a PSI conference in Washington last week, Paul Wolfowitz, the deputy secretary of defence, reminded the 16 member countries - who include France, Germany, Italy and Japan in addition to Britain and America - that the threat to global security extended beyond North Korea and Iran, the focus of recent pressure from Washington over their nuclear programmes.

"While PSI participants agree that North Korea and Iran are of particular concern, we know that our efforts cannot be confined to just any one or two countries alone," Mr Wolfowitz said.

Libya has long been in American sights over its acquisition of WMD. In June, John Bolton, the under-secretary of state for arms control and international security, warned that the regime was exploiting the suspension of United Nations sanctions after the Lockerbie trial.

"Since the sanctions were lifted, Libya has been able to be more aggressive in pursuing weapons of mass destruction. Libyan agents are trying to acquire dual-use technology. That is very worrying," he said.

The Libyan foreign ministry announced yesterday that it had already sent a team to Vienna to begin talks with the International Atomic Energy Authority, the UN nuclear watchdog.

The official Libyan news agency, Jana, last night quoted Col Gaddafi as declaring that his statement on WMD was "a courageous step which deserves the support of the Libyan people".


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrine; gaddafi; gaddifis; libya; proliferation; psi; real; reason; revealed; surrender; wmd
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RE: Who dat shipping what to whom?

"Since the sanctions were lifted, Libya has been able to be more aggressive in pursuing weapons of mass destruction. Libyan agents are trying to acquire dual-use technology. That is very worrying," he said.

Well, well. There is a Clinton connection to the Libya thing. Kind of. To wit, "firms in China provided dual-use missile-related items, raw materials, and/or assistance to several other countries of proliferation concern -- such as Iran, Libya, and North Korea."

13 November 2003 "CIA Report Reviews Weapons Proliferation Trends"

http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/uscn/others/2003/111301.htm

Glad we wised up and stopped transferring technology to China, right? Right? Right?!

Oh, and this from the same report, "During the first half of 2003, Libya continued to depend on foreign assistance -- particularly from Serbian, Indian, Iranian, North Korean, and Chinese entities -- for its ballistic missile development programs."

Serbian? Yes. Another website says "The U.S. Embassy's 2002 non-paper claimed the FRY [Former Republic of Yugoslavia] was assisting both Libya and Iraq with their 'long range' missile/rocket programs, sighting the presence of FRY missile specialists in Iraq throughout 2001. Other scientists from Belgrade have developed a plethora of dual-use technologies suitable for a 'poor-man's' cruise missile, and are rumored to have helped Iraqi scientists convert Iraqi MiG-21 and other training vehicles into unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs)."

Indian? along with Iranian, North Korean, and Chinese entities? Boy, they are enterprising aren't they? Glad we're not transferring technology to India, right? . . . .

41 posted on 12/20/2003 6:08:36 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
Well, as a straight guy I never particularly thought him "hot", but he does have a tremendous sense of Bedouin style. I enjoyed his antics as my favorite cartoon dictator of the 1980s. I always remember he would make threats against the Sixth Fleet, but he couldn't pronounce "sixth" so it came out as "Seekh-ah-tah" Fleet.

Now, don't get me wrong -- I didn't shed any tears when we blew up his tent and killed his camels. I HAD noticed he seemed to have been behaving himself since Saddam became the #1 Cartoon Dictator.

On Fox they kept talking about how Col. Khaddafi was doing it to "save his skin." Why the disrespect? I think it is tremendous that he may be showing that a dictator can change and that's a great message to all of the other strongmen in the world. I DO think it ought to be a "trust but verify" deal, though.
42 posted on 12/20/2003 6:08:56 PM PST by johnb838 (CHRISTMAS! Jesus is the Reason for the Season. Say it Loud, I'm Christian and Proud!!!)
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To: blam
Only strength is recognized by these folks. This guy is no dummy. He knows being friends with the biggest guy on the block (us) is in his best interest. Nobody can bother him without going through us if relations get that warm again.
43 posted on 12/20/2003 6:25:03 PM PST by Indie (Rats are traitors. Hang 'em all.)
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To: LibWhacker
I strongly agree.
44 posted on 12/20/2003 6:27:07 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Inyokern
Good one!
45 posted on 12/20/2003 6:52:30 PM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: blam
Col Muammar Gaddafi

I take it they don't have "up or out" in the Libyan military. That guy has been a colonel for over 30 years.

46 posted on 12/20/2003 6:59:02 PM PST by Nick Danger (With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.)
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To: blam
The left has awakened to their nightmare:

It was bad ENOUGH that the ADULTS were back in control, but now it's...

"Walker, Texas Ranger" in the White House!

(or would that be George Walker Bush, Texas Ranger?)

DFU or SOMEONE needs to work over that theme to the Chuck Norris TV show, change they lyrics to fit Dubya!

N.Korea, Iran and other thirdworld cesspools run by two-bit despots---you can bet they are sitting up and taking notice. The last couple who messed with Bush (Taliban, Baathists) went from living in palaces to living in freaking caves and holes in the ground.

47 posted on 12/20/2003 7:05:26 PM PST by gg188
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To: Nick Danger
That guy has been a colonel for over 30 years.

I know! A COLONEL! Doesn't he REALIZE that's a lower rank than others that he could just proclaim himself?

"I demand the sum... OF 1 MILLION DOLLARS."

48 posted on 12/20/2003 7:11:12 PM PST by gg188
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To: TomGuy
But it's arrogant to negotiate from a position of weakness. We should just bow to the French and Kofi Annan and beg mercy from every thug who gets control of a country.

Then people throughout the world would love us and they would treat us with love and respect.

SARCASM (for the sarcasm challenged)

49 posted on 12/20/2003 7:13:33 PM PST by Montfort
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To: Montfort
And we could all sing kumbyaaaaaaaa
50 posted on 12/20/2003 7:19:12 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
Every time I used to see Daffy on television, I was reminded of a shot I saw of Jacko dancing around, holding his pecker, and singing, "I'm bad".

I've got similar respect for both!

51 posted on 12/20/2003 7:36:26 PM PST by Chapita
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To: blam
The timing of this announcement paints a different picture....
right after Saddam is pulled from a hole and starts ratting on his own, loyal followers....
after the US Military uses the information that Saddam gives them to neutralized a good number of those followers....
it sounds like the Libyan Leader might be worried about some things that Saddam may be singing about him....

If Libya announces that they are giving up WMD on their own they look like the good guys. If they wait until Saddam squeals about a WMD link between Iraq and Libya (no source, just a guess) they will appear to be supporters of Saddam and will face having to give up their WMDs any way.
52 posted on 12/20/2003 7:55:45 PM PST by lifesaver
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To: lifesaver
My theory is that Saddam sent the WMD's to Libya, but mostly to Syria. If they pulled off sending several semis full of American Dollars out of Iraq, why not WMD's?

Quote from American Heritage® Dictionary about Syria:

"Islam was introduced in the seventh century by Muslim Arab conquerers. Syria was a province of the Ottoman Empire from 1516 until 1918, and the part comprising present-day Syria and Lebanon became a French League of Nations mandate in 1920.
Separated from Lebanon by the French, Syria achieved full independence in 1946. "

Of course now Lebanon is occupied and controlled by Syria. Funny no one in the ME complains about that...

53 posted on 12/20/2003 8:33:33 PM PST by Syncro
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To: blam
So basically we showed him the evidence we had and then a video of Saddam being pulled out of the spider hole. I think he was able to connect the dots.
54 posted on 12/20/2003 8:38:43 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: blam
The only thing that surprizes me is that it took old Mo this long after Saddam's capture to capitulate. As I recall, on 9/11 the most dangerous place to be was anywhere between Gaddafi and a TV news camera so he could announce that he had nothing to do with the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon.
55 posted on 12/20/2003 8:40:54 PM PST by Orangedog (Remain calm...all is well! [/sarcasm])
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To: blam
No matter what happens, the whackjob conspirationalists will spin that none of this ever happened, that the Bilderbergers and the Illuminati had a hand in it, and that we will all be shipped off to slavery camps, etc, yadda yadda.

Being a conspiracy theorist is easy, you never have to be correct because you can always change the theory, and accuse anyone that points out that you are wrong as being part of the conspiracy...

56 posted on 12/20/2003 8:48:31 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (En la boca cerrada, no entran moscas)
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To: blam
""While PSI participants agree that North Korea and Iran are of particular concern, we know that our efforts cannot be confined to just any one or two countries alone," Mr Wolfowitz said. "

Note to Wesley, you cannot concentrate on a single threat axis at a time. Don't they teach generals anything?

57 posted on 12/20/2003 9:09:38 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: blam
bump
58 posted on 12/20/2003 9:28:30 PM PST by RippleFire
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To: blam; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge; farmfriend; Dog; knak; Ragtime Cowgirl; RLK
The operation is said to have been carried out under the Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI), an international, American-led scheme to halt the spread of WMD by seizing them in transit. The PSI was first mooted by President George W Bush in May but was not officially launched until September.

Just excellent work by President Bush and Prime Minister Blair in standing tough!

59 posted on 12/20/2003 10:49:24 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Davis is now out of Arnoold's Office , Bout Time!!!!)
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To: blam; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Bump and ping!
60 posted on 12/20/2003 10:54:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Davis is now out of Arnoold's Office , Bout Time!!!!)
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