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Glock’s New Model 37 .45 G.A.P.
GunBlast ^ | 12 November 2003 | Jeff Quinn

Posted on 12/19/2003 4:10:50 PM PST by 45Auto

Since the introduction of the Glock model 21 chambered for the legendary .45 ACP cartridge, it has been a steady seller, with those who shoot them developing an almost cult-like devotion to the big pistol. The only complaint that I have ever heard leveled against the model 21 is regarding the size of the pistol’s grip. It was designed to hold thirteen of the fat .45 ACP cartridges in a double column magazine, and the grip is necessarily large. This is fine if you have large hands, but is a bit awkward for shooters with small to medium hand sized hands. I wear a size large glove, but find the model 21 grip to be a bit too bulky for my hand. I can shoot it fine, but it just doesn’t have the comfortable feel of the model 17 size grip frame.

In an effort to accommodate those who do not possess large mitts, Glock has introduced a .45 that uses a shorter case and still delivers .45 ACP performance. When first introduced at the 2003 SHOT Show, the model 37 had a frame and slide that was very close in size to the medium frame models 17 and 22. The production model 37 received for testing has a frame that is indeed the size of the 17/22, but the slide dimensions are closer to those of the model 21. The thickness and height of the slides of the models 21 and 37 are the same, but the model 37 slide is a bit shorter, and is beveled at the front for easier holstering and improved smoothness compared to the model 21.

The grip frame dimensions are where the two guns differ, and the smaller size of the model 37 does indeed offer improved ergonomics for those who prefer the feel of the medium frame Glocks. A comparison of the critical dimensions are as follows:

Glock 21 .45 ACP Glock 37 .45 GAP Magazine Thickness 1.15 inch 0.904 inch Grip Circumference 7.75 inches 7.375 inches Grip Thickness 1.292 inches 1.182 inches Grip Front to Back 2.155 inches 2.08 inches Trigger Reach 2.938 inches 2.793 inches Barrel Length 4.605 inches 4.59 inches

As seen in the chart, the numerical differences are small, but they do make a significant difference in the feel of the weapon. The model 37 grip frame has three finger grooves, and has a small thumb rest on each side. The front of the frame has an accessory rail for attachment of a small flashlight or laser sight, if desired. While the weight of the two pistols is almost the same at roughly twenty-nine ounces, the new model 37 does feel smaller. With the slide dimensions the same, the model 37 fits a model 21 holster quite well. With the smaller grip size, the commercial model 37 magazine holds ten rounds of .45 GAP, with the magazines for law enforcement being of the same ten round capacity.

The case length of the .45 GAP is roughly three quarters of an inch. The fired cases measured between .750 and .756 inches. The shorter case allows the grip frame to be smaller and still hold ten rounds. The .45 GAP is loaded to the same velocities as the .45 ACP, with Speer and Winchester offering loaded ammunition at this time.

I had available for testing some Speer Lawman 200 grain TMJ flatpoint ammunition, along with some Speer Gold Dot ammo in both 185 and 200 grain hollow point configuration. I also loaded a few rounds using my .45 ACP dies, and plan to do a follow-up article on loading for the .45 GAP in the future. I fired the ammunition for velocity and accuracy. The 200 grain TMJ bullet crossed the screens of my PACT chronograph at an average speed of 969.8 feet per second ten feet in front of the muzzle. Interestingly, the Speer Lawman .45 GAP ammo functioned perfectly from a model 21, but clocked in a bit slower at 928 feet per second. It is not recommended to fire the GAP in the longer ACP chamber, but I did it just to see if it would work. The Gold Dot 185 and 200 grain ammunition chronographed at 1044 and 1002 feet per second, respectfully.

The accuracy of the .45 GAP was very good, with initial testing at fifteen yards producing tight one-hole clusters. Moving the target out to twenty-five yards opened the groups up to an average of two and one-half inches for five shots. The Lawman ammo shot to point of aim at fifteen yards, and was just an inch high at twenty-five. The 200 grain Gold Dot shot to the same point, with the 185 shooting just a bit lower. The model 37 functioned perfectly; feeding, firing, and ejecting every round without a problem. The magazines dropped free with a push of the release button.

The felt recoil of the 200 grain load was relatively mild, due in large part to the excellent ergonomics of the model 37. The trigger pull measured a smooth six pounds, five ounces.

With Glocks, there is usually no middle ground. Some people love them, and others do not (Ed. Note: see Jeff's early article, I Hate Glocks - Boge). The model 37 will most likely be received the same way. It should be welcomed by law enforcement agencies who desire a big-bore cartridge, but find that the model 21 grip is too large to fit the hands of some officers on their force. The .45 GAP offers a greater bullet frontal area compared to the .40 S&W, and I find the felt recoil to be less when loaded to the same velocities, offering faster follow-up shots. Whether you are a Glock fan or not, one thing is certain....they work, and they work well. I have found that a new shooter can learn to shoot well with a Glock very quickly. Glock is one of a very few handguns that I would trust to work in extreme conditions.

For those Glock fans who want to carry a .45 concealed, the model 37 offers a relatively lightweight pistol that still packs ten rounds into a reliable and accurate weapon. The model 37 comes shipped in a hard plastic case with two magazines, a magazine loading tool, cleaning rod, brush, instruction manual and cable lock.

For shooters who find that the .45 ACP model 21 fits their hand well, the model 37 offers no advantage. For those who want .45 power in a full-sized Glock with a nine-millimeter sized grip frame, the model 37 chambered for the new .45 GAP is your baby.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 45gap; bang; banglist; g37; g38; g39; glock
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To: COEXERJ145
What's H&K's best concealed carry option, in your opinion? Their website is under serious construction. Thanks...
41 posted on 12/19/2003 5:39:56 PM PST by Akira (Blessed are the cheesemakers.)
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To: lelio
I like to carry something small with a punch. I found it in the Taurus MILLENNIUM PRO PT145 .45 ACP


42 posted on 12/19/2003 5:43:28 PM PST by Gone_Postal
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To: 45Auto
Y'all probably don't want a Sissy like me butting in but I have a question.

This week I went to the town hall meeting in Goose Creek, SC sponsored by the NAACP for the Stratford HS police drug raid. Jesse Jackson sat across the aisle from me.

Several students and their parents spoke about their experiences. Half way into the meeting, Jesse sends word to the moderator and it's announced that our cops were using Glocks. According to Jesse, Glocks don't have safeties. If one of the sweaty fingers of Goose Creek's finest had slipped, some kids brains would have been splattered all over the lockers.

So, how 'bout it guys. I don't accept Jesse Jackson's words as gospel. What's the safety story? Surprisingly, this angle has not been mentioned in the local news if it's true.
43 posted on 12/19/2003 5:44:21 PM PST by The Game Hen (brevity is the soul of wit)
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To: meyer
Well you're made of sterner stuff than I am. I traded my original 30 for the 36. Kept it till I actually shot the thing, then traded it in for another 30.

Best trade I ever made.
44 posted on 12/19/2003 5:44:42 PM PST by papertyger
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To: The Game Hen
Hey, welcome fellow sissy! ;-) Read post 18, you might have your answer. Somebody in the know will pipe up soon, though...

Wow, sitting across the aisle from the Reverend. What an honor.

</sarcasm>
45 posted on 12/19/2003 5:47:05 PM PST by Akira (Blessed are the cheesemakers.)
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To: Gorzaloon
I have small hands and find any double row mag to be too big for a comfortable grip. Do you or anyone else have a recommendation for a 9mm with say seven rounds.

I don't think I'll ever be in a Swartzenegger movie where I'll be faced with lots of bad guys.
46 posted on 12/19/2003 5:49:27 PM PST by wildbill
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To: absalom01
That is one big laser on the end of the barrel!! Does anyone know first hand about the laser grips? Seems they would be a real asset for one shot hits, without all the bulk.
47 posted on 12/19/2003 5:49:37 PM PST by duk
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To: The Game Hen
Nonsense. Revolves don't have any safety at all, and they did fine for a long time. Glocks have three safeties, albeit internal requiring no operator manipulation.
48 posted on 12/19/2003 5:51:00 PM PST by papertyger
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To: 45Auto
But, could you hit the side of a barn with it at 10 feet ?
49 posted on 12/19/2003 5:52:46 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: wildbill
Do you or anyone else have a recommendation for a 9mm with say seven rounds.

Kahr P-9... it's basicly a single column glock.

50 posted on 12/19/2003 5:54:08 PM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger
Well you're made of sterner stuff than I am. I traded my original 30 for the 36. Kept it till I actually shot the thing, then traded it in for another 30.

Well, I wouldn't say "sterner". I do prefer the 30 as well, but I can shoot proficiently with my 27 (which is even snappier than the 36). I think that a lot of it has to do with hand size and finger width. My fingers are narrow, though my hands are somewhat large. This helps my hand fit the finger grooves of the Glock better.

The grip extender is your friend on the smaller glocks like the 36 and 27 BTW. The smallest finger does add stability and improves the second-shot capability by helping to bring you back to target faster. Lack of a good resting spot for the 'pinkie' might have dissuaded you from the 36. But that's OK - the 30 is a fine weapon and is my most accurate auto pistol (though it can't match my big revolvers).

51 posted on 12/19/2003 5:56:38 PM PST by meyer
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To: wildbill
I have small hands and find any double row mag to be too big for a comfortable grip. Do you or anyone else have a recommendation for a 9mm with say seven rounds.

Don't underestimage the snub-nosed .38 revolver. The Colt Detective Special, particularly with the older style grips, is very suitable for smaller hands. And very reliable.

52 posted on 12/19/2003 5:58:34 PM PST by meyer
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To: meyer
underestimage = underestimate.

I may have invented a new word, but I don't know the definition yet. :)

53 posted on 12/19/2003 6:00:05 PM PST by meyer
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To: NMC EXP
Get a Colt Model 1911 in .45 ACP and quit fooling around.

Amen! Preach it, brother!

As a relatively small woman (5'5"), I don't have any trouble with a 1911A1 . . . don't see why anybody else should either. If 7 230 RN at 850 fps isn't going to do the job, somebody needs to work on their marksmanship . . .

54 posted on 12/19/2003 6:02:22 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: meyer
I have carried a Glock 26 9mm for nearly a year, and I think it is the best carrying Glock out there. Had a Glock 21 for a while, and couldn't reliably conceal it.

55 posted on 12/19/2003 6:02:59 PM PST by Armedanddangerous
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To: meyer
Naw man. That lil' booger hurt me. But I will agree about hand variation. I never minded shooting my Thompson Encore in .308.
56 posted on 12/19/2003 6:05:15 PM PST by papertyger
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To: AnAmericanMother
My wife has a Colt 1991A1 Officers Model and a slightly tuned up Auto Ordnance M1911 clone.

She doesn't have any trouble with either of them.

Regards

J.R.
57 posted on 12/19/2003 6:18:58 PM PST by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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To: duk
That is one big laser on the end of the barrel!! Does anyone know first hand about the laser grips? Seems they would be a real asset for one shot hits, without all the bulk.

That is a high intensity flashlight / laser combination. Here

I have the Laserlite grips on a S&W 617 in .22LR for pest shooting at dusk or dawn. They work very well for that.

Don't forget that the front of the laser makes a dandy aiming point if the other guy is shooting back.

So9

58 posted on 12/19/2003 6:21:01 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: NMC EXP
Neither have I. I wound up getting a Sig-Sauer P245 DA to carry where Condition 1 makes me a little uncomfortable (e.g. in close quarters like a car seat), but the 1911A1 Colt and the Combat Commander are what I carry as a general rule.
59 posted on 12/19/2003 6:25:17 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: Servant of the 9
Laser sights make GREAT barometers at night, too. They paint a truly beautiful straight line right to your muzzle, from a surprisingly long distance.

Try it. You'll be impressed. They work great !
60 posted on 12/19/2003 6:30:58 PM PST by PoorMuttly (KAKKATE KOI !)
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