Glock’s New Model 37 .45 G.A.P.

GunBlast ^ | 12 November 2003 | Jeff Quinn

[dbwz]

Take a look at the Kel-Tec P11.

[PoorMuttly]

...not that I don't use one myself on unarmed coyotes, every chance I get, with my Mini-14.

For defense, just use it and get it over with suddenly, as one really should. The line through space also helps in real target acquisition in an emergency....since looking for the dot is somewhat...well...it could cause spontaneous urination if you're not careful...so Muttly sez, see and shoot, and if the dot is there, fine...but really, lasers are best for practicing "point-shooting," so that you hit what you're looking at, unconscious of the sights.

[Khurkris]

"Get a Colt Model 1911 in .45 ACP and quit fooling around."

In '84 I switched from a Combat Commander to an Officers Model. Eventually had it tuned, rounded and Novaked. It always works. If I need 9mm I have a Hi-Power that is tuned and works like a Swiss watch.

In serious social situations it is usually the person with the gun and not the gun that makes the difference.

[Drammach]

Yeah, I'll answer that..

Glock uses a "trigger safety"..
It is incorporated into the trigger, and thusly, while the weapon will not go off if dropped, etc., an "itchy" trigger finger WILL fire the gun.

The standard .45 cal has a "thumb" safety that has to be manually operated before the gun will fire.
Additionally, the standard .45 cal has a "grip" safety that requires a full, firm hand grip on the pistol in order to fire it.

I personally consider all Glocks as UNSAFE.
I do not recommend them to my freinds or relatives.
A child CAN fire a Glock.
The standard .45 has the proper safety features required in a handgun in my opinion, and the Glock does not.

[The Game Hen]

Very informative.
Thank You!

[Squantos]

Gonna have to lay hands on, crono some rounds down range, and drop a 1000 rounds on some IDPA paper and shoothouse steel before I tell ya I don't like it..........:o)

I have to almost agree with Lurker in the above post. What a waste of glocks resources. But as stated I still have to confirm my initial thoughts with use vs what someone else in a gunrag tests for me. You know that too....

Stay Safe GR !!!

[Lurker]

I didn't mean to be so abrupt, but what the heck is Glock doing reinventing the frigging wheel?

If they really wanted to 'accomodate' .45 shooters, why didn't they just make it a single stack weapon using the proven Glock action? What's the point in inventing a "new" .45 caliber round? What was wrong with the 'old' one?

While I'm not a personal fan of it, Glock has managed to secure a huge portion of the market with the action they invented. If Glock shooters wanted a smaller version of the pistol chambered in .45 ACP, that's what they should have given them.

But hey, that's just me.

Merry Christmas my friend.

Regards,

L

[Travis McGee]

You can't compare a revolver with a long 11+ pound DA trigger pull to a Glock's 5-6 pound shorter trigger pull.

A Glock is almost like carrying a 1911 with the safety off, all the time, IMHO.

[Lurker]

If you want a .45, buy a frigging .45, alright?

I've had the same Commander for the last 15 years I think. IMO, it's the finest personal defense handgun one can buy. It's not perfect, and yea Glock makes a nice gun, but it seems to me that Glock is trying to make something for everyone and this new gun just proves my point.

Who's going to make ammo for this thing? How many police departments are actually going to issue it? That's where Glocks market is. And PD's aren't going to buy the millions of rounds necessary to make this thing commercially viable.

Call me old fashioned Trav, but I just don't see how this things going to work. If I want to put a .45 caliber hole in something, I already own a well proven design which functions as close to flawlessly as any gun I've ever owned.

I'm not Glock quality or engineering here, I know they're decent guns. I'm just questioning their judgement.

L

[Squantos]

If truth and honest opinion is abrupt I'll take that over warm and fuzzy lies anyday. That's why I like freepers for the most part.

I think Aston wanted his own version of a "caliber" like the 357SIG or 40 S&W (aka Short & Whimpy)............thus the trendy 45GAP..........all smoke and mirrors. But of course I am a member of the gun of the month club thus will get one to line my gun safe with and test fer myself !........... 1911A1 rules !

Stay Safe and call em like ya see em friend !

[Eris]

Sure, but the Glock 36 I have is great for real firepower while dressed for summer.

[papertyger]

FRiend, I'm sorry to say this, but I don't know any other way to be truthful and timely for our Game Hen friend, but it's real obvious to anyone who is familiar with Glock pistols your knowlege of the brand is limited to what can be learned from a cursory external examination.

I really do hate to put you on the spot, but you're giving advice to a third party that doesn't know that your opinion is pretty uninformed. There is a reason all those police departments have adopted the Glock, and it isn't because they're uninformed. I've been carrying one for about ten years without any incidents whatsoever.

The safety you speak of is only one of three integrated into a Glock pistol. The other two are a drop safety, and a firing pin safety. They aren't obvious from the outside, because they are internal and don't need to be manipulated to work...somewhat like the backstrap safety on a 1911; if you're holding it, you've disengaged the safety. The ONLY way to make a Glock go off is to pull the trigger.

Not to mention the fact a Glock has a double action trigger; the same as all revolvers which have NO safety.

All these facts can be confirmed by a quick trip to www.glock.com at any time.

[papertyger]

You can't compare a revolver with a long 11+ pound DA trigger pull to a Glock's 5-6 pound shorter trigger pull.

I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one Travis. I wouldn't compare it to a redhawk or model 29, but I would compare it to something like a smith 66 or taurus 85. If the latter two have eleven pound triggers, then the ergonomics sure make them "feel" lighter.

[cyborg]

Excuse me Santa Claus, but I'd like to add this one to my list.

[Lurker]

I agree with you.

It seems to me that most of these new calibers are attemtping to do what the .45 ACP has done for years. First it was the 9mm's; pushing them faster and faster.

Then we got .357 Sig. Let's face it, that one was kind of a flop. Nice round, but the .45 made an even bigger hole, and you didn't have to spend 3 bucks a round for factory ammo.

Then we got .40 S & W. Hell, the company admitted they were trying to get .45 ACP results in a smaller package for the LE market.

Now this one comes on the market. An attempt to be a .45 in a shorter cartridge. Why bother?

I guess I'm getting a bit cranky in middle age, but it seems to me that Glock could have solved this problem by making a single stack built around their already well received action. But, what the hell do I know.

Hey, let me know if that Gun Of The Month club you're in needs any new members. I may bitch a bit, but I'm darned appreciative of finding things into my hands to play with.

Merry Christmas,

L

[Travis McGee]

This .45 Kurtz round is DOA. If you can find it on the shelves of your local gun store in 5 years I'll be amazed.

At the TOP of my list of guns I kick myself for selling is my Colt ltwt Commander! Slicked up, beavertail, extended safety, checkered forestrap. What a dummy to sell that great pistol!

[Travis McGee]

Glocks do not have a "double action trigger."

[Travis McGee]

The ONLY way to make a Glock go off is to pull the trigger.

Or have it snag on something while it's being holstered. Etc.

Glocks are perfectly safe secure in your holster, and presented in your hand. But the transitions from holster to presentation and reverse provide some unique....challenges. About the same as if you never used the safety on a 1911 and just left it chambered and cocked at all times. Safe in your holster, safe in your hand....but going from on to the other...WATCH OUT!

[Squantos]

Go peek at the new Granite series 1911A1 that SIG is just releasing. All 1911A1 parts from wilson etc etc on a SIG product.....8 round Wilson rogers mags, parts and goodies interchangeable with Colt, Kimber, SA, Clones.........My order is in with my local gunrunner FFL dealer. Looks promising.

Merry Xmas to you also Lurker. You stay safe and get a little trigger time if ya get some free days this week.

[Squantos]

Your correct....safe action....not double action trigger.

Do ya remember the toy dart pistols we had as kids. The one with the rubber tip that stuck to yer little sisters forehead. Find one of those and pull the trigger. Now , unload, clear and safe a glock, and pull the trigger.......same friggin spoing spoing spoing noise. The gun not yer little sister........:o)

Stay safe Bro !