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Posted on 12/18/2003 12:03:02 PM PST by MHGinTN

Free Resource Offer regarding stem cells and cloning:

Much has been made in the media and on the Congressional Record of the so-called ‘promise’ of embryonic stem cells and cloning for therapeutic applications. Major media have reported this field of stories with a clear bias that dehumanizes the individual human embryo as ‘not yet a human being’ or ‘not yet human enough, not individuated enough at embryo age’. Ironically, ALL the experts started their individual human life as a single totipotent cell, called a zygote. Eliminate the zygotic age of the individual human life and the lifetime that is already started will be no more because it is from that first totipotent age of the individual that all stem cell cascades derive!

It is unsettling to realize that events and discoveries at this time in our nation’s history tend to separate We The People from the decision making processes, mainly because the average citizen hasn’t a clue just what ESCR and therapeutic cloning seek to do and with what these technologies deal. There are two bills developing in the United States Senate that address human cloning; one bill would ban all human cloning, while the other bill would ban human reproductive cloning yet make it legal to do human cloning for research purposes. But all human cloning is reproductive, at the start.

To understand the differences in cloning bills requires some basic understanding of the biological processes. The information is not so abstract that the average citizen cannot grasp it, if it’s presented in clear terms and facts are not hidden via technical flourishes.

Ask yourself, ‘If our Senators were debating whether to knowingly fund research into a doomsday bomb that if ignited would deplete all the oxygen on the planet, would We The People approve of that?’ Doubtful.

Human cloning holds dangerous potential for the human species—over time—yet average voting citizens have little or no idea what are the details of cloning, details of the different bills, and details of future impact upon our civilization. Why? … Because the facts have been kept in the abstract by scientists wanting to do the research and elected representatives in agreement with those scientists.

There is vast wealth to be gained by those who learn to harness the science, as long as the people do not object to the methodologies. But how can the people object if they don’t understand what it is that the scientists want to do? This author believes there are alternate means to these miracles of cell technology, means that do not cannibalize individual humans at their embryo age.

Gradual application of technologies not well understood by the voting populace leads down slippery slopes that arrive at horrific ends We The People would likely avoid, if we but understood the real destiny of the slippery slopes.

This nation need not take a slide along a new slippery slope that includes in vitro fertilization and embryonic stem cell harvesting, and foretells human cloning for body parts. But to avoid the slide, We The People must have basic facts with which to discuss the honest perils and with which to discern the half-truths and outright lies already sullying the national discussion.

Linked to this posting is a manuscript written for the lay reader, designed to explain embryonic stem cells, and cloning. We have tried to keep the words and concepts intelligible, using asides from experts, using word pictures that help to visualize that which is usually seen only through a microscope, and using simple interactive sketching exercises (many of the net sources cited have excellent illustrations the reader may access, also, such as http://www.accessexcellence.org/AB/GG/structure.html and also illustrations found at the Human Genome Project website of NIH).


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In the manuscript, after we discuss the basics we briefly address the underlying moral issues regarding these biological manipulations. After that, We The People will have to make up our individual minds whether we want certain lines of research to proceed—with our blessing, or whether we will demand that our elected representatives ban certain lines of manipulation with the earliest manifestation of human individual lives.

The following links are provided by Freeper, Calpernia. The manuscript is offered free to anyone, but the author retains the copyright. Make printed copies for your Minister or Priest and Church elders. Spread the information around … and Talk, America, talk these issues over, before we are fully embarked upon cannibalism as enlightened medical technology!

http://www.goexcelglobal.com/We%20Need%20To%20Talk.pdf (Found Here)

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http://www.goexcelglobal.com/WeNeedToTalk/index.html (Found Here)

1 posted on 12/18/2003 12:03:02 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: Alamo-Girl; backhoe; Woahhs; Victoria Delsoul; William Wallace; Bryan; aristeides; Bella_Bru; ...
PING)))))) please pass along to any whom you feel would read this and find it useful. Thank you
2 posted on 12/18/2003 12:05:22 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
I thought you were going to offer me a clone so I can spend all day posting.
3 posted on 12/18/2003 12:06:36 PM PST by Naspino (Exodus 22: 28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.)
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To: Naspino
Read the joke at the start of chapter on cloning in the linked text (Chapter Four). You might be able to appreciate that as my response to your 'clone query'.
4 posted on 12/18/2003 12:09:49 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
I wanted to throw a theology question out there that has been bugging me for some time. If we assume that life begins at the moment of conception, what happens in the after life to the fertilized egg that fails to bond to the uterine wall? Does religion assume that this fertilized egg will be accorded the same treatment in heaven that is accorded to a more fully developed human being? Is there any sort of consensus among various religions?


5 posted on 12/18/2003 12:10:05 PM PST by fourhorsemen
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To: Jim Robinson; RJayneJ; JohnHuang2
* Hope I'm not violating some rule with this free offer made only through/from FreeRepublic.com ... perhaps it will elad to more members?
6 posted on 12/18/2003 12:11:11 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: fourhorsemen
Excellent question ... I wrote the manuscript with the intention of NOT address religious issues, to avoid unnecessary complications at the beginning stages of the national debate. Let's try to get as many as possible 'up to some speed' on the facts, then delve into the nitty gritty. Drop me a Freepmail and I'll be glad to offer my opinion though.
7 posted on 12/18/2003 12:13:22 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: fourhorsemen
Page 49 and 50 of the 'html' version linked above.
8 posted on 12/18/2003 12:15:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: fourhorsemen
We have no idea. So the question is : Do we err on the side of life or convenience?
9 posted on 12/18/2003 12:15:33 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: MHGinTN; SpookBrat
Bump!
10 posted on 12/18/2003 12:16:31 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia; Lazamataz
Thank you for the server space, Lady ... and the hugh effort to post the things in two formats. This is series I tell ya!
11 posted on 12/18/2003 12:18:03 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: fourhorsemen
Well, I'll offer you my uneducated 2 cents. I think it is the soul that is afforded the status in heaven, not the fertilized egg. So with regards to your scenario, yes, the soul of the egg that did not implant is in heaven.
12 posted on 12/18/2003 12:18:51 PM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: MHGinTN
please pass along

You know I will- Merry Christmas, Marvin.

13 posted on 12/18/2003 12:20:01 PM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: MHGinTN
My pleasure. Also, put these links in your FR Profile with the text you have there.
14 posted on 12/18/2003 12:22:07 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: backhoe
Thank you, brother ... and the best of this Season of Christ Among us to you and yours.
15 posted on 12/18/2003 12:31:51 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Calpernia
Oops, didn't think of that. Will do.
16 posted on 12/18/2003 12:32:25 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
BTT!!!!!
17 posted on 12/18/2003 12:41:50 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Modernman
Ping to a bit of background material for you.
18 posted on 12/18/2003 12:57:12 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: cpforlife.org; Mr. Silverback
* pass it along if you see fit
19 posted on 12/18/2003 1:16:09 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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20 posted on 12/18/2003 1:53:47 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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