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Appeals Court Orders Jose Padilla released in 30 Days!
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Posted on 12/18/2003 8:10:02 AM PST by Dog

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KEYWORDS: abdullahalmuhajir; enemycombatant; josepadilla
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To: woodyinscc
Second Circuit Court of Appeals (Fed)
21 posted on 12/18/2003 8:23:55 AM PST by daylate-dollarshort
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To: Walkingfeather
It's hell of lot better than the government being able to use secret evidence against you to hold you indefinitely.
22 posted on 12/18/2003 8:24:06 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: dogbyte12
I agree, but I think Galtoid is right: I'm betting we have real dirt on him, and it will come to real charges. Then he can rot some more.
23 posted on 12/18/2003 8:24:09 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: blastdad51
I agree with you guys that it isn't right to hold this vermin without charges. And I hesitate to suggest that the feds may have stepped in it bigtime. Government prosecutors are notoriously hamhanded. Either way, he deserves to be released if there is no case against him.
24 posted on 12/18/2003 8:24:57 AM PST by Galtoid
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To: Lurker
Same here.

This whole Padilla thing was handled idiotically, and unconstitutionally, from the start. This guy is an American citizen. John Ashcroft can not just arbitrarily revoke those rights of citizenship.

From his history - he's a scumbag. But he's our scumbag - an American. You can't imprison Americans for months without charges. This was a power play move by Ashcroft, and he doesn't deserve to win it.

Of course, now he just has to charge him. Which is what he should have done day one.

25 posted on 12/18/2003 8:25:08 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Dog



From Drudge:
In a 2-to-1 ruling, a three-judge panel of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said Padilla's detention was not authorized by Congress and that Bush could not designate him as an enemy combatant without the authorization...

What are the Administration's options for appeal?


26 posted on 12/18/2003 8:25:10 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Dog
Scary, unless they will watch him like a hawk.
27 posted on 12/18/2003 8:25:20 AM PST by NautiNurse (Everyone is born right handed. Only the exceptionally gifted overcome it.)
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To: blastdad51
Our appeals court can always be counted on to help keep us safe

Judges seem to be MUCH more interested in the rights of the CRIMINALS or accused then with the people. While I grudgingly agree with this decision..... this coming on the heels of the HINKLEY decision, just makes one wonder!

28 posted on 12/18/2003 8:26:19 AM PST by PISANO (God Bless our Troops........They will not TIRE - They will not FALTER - They will not FAIL!!!!!)
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To: Sabertooth
Why would Bush need to get Congress approval to hold Padilla.
29 posted on 12/18/2003 8:26:45 AM PST by Dog (First question to Saddam..........Where is Scott Speicher??)
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Could someone please put up a side-by-side of Padilla and OKC's "John Doe"?
30 posted on 12/18/2003 8:27:15 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: Sabertooth
A 2-1 decision.....look for this to be appealed.
31 posted on 12/18/2003 8:29:24 AM PST by Dog (First question to Saddam..........Where is Scott Speicher??)
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To: Lurking in Kansas
"If this release enables us to catch some other terrorists it might not be too bad."

And then put him back in the pokey on conspiracy charges.
32 posted on 12/18/2003 8:29:32 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Dog
Well, Judge, it's this way:
We were in the process of releasing him; however, he escaped and we cannot find him to release him.
33 posted on 12/18/2003 8:30:25 AM PST by verity
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To: Dog; Torie; AntiGuv; aristeides



Why would Bush need to get Congress approval to hold Padilla.

I'm only specualtiong, but perhaps this is shorthand for a ruling that al-Mujahir's (Padilla's) detention wasn't authorized by some legal provision of the Patriot Act?

Flagging lawyers.


34 posted on 12/18/2003 8:31:02 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Dog
Sorry for the cross-post - I did a search for Padilla but yours didn't turn up. Here's a link to the 53-page PDF file for the 2nd Circuit Court opinion:

http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov:81/isysnative/RDpcT3BpbnNcT1BOXDAzLTIyMzVfb3BuLnBkZg==/03-2235_opn.pdf#xml=http://10.213.23.111:81/isysquery/irldeab/1/hilite

35 posted on 12/18/2003 8:31:08 AM PST by Thud
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To: Dog
Does this mean I have to start taking my Iodine pills again?
36 posted on 12/18/2003 8:32:47 AM PST by Gritty ("if we have another 9/11, our response would be too terrible to contemplate"-Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: PISANO
Innocent until proven guilty, Pisano. It's the cornerstone of our legal system, and I reluctantly agree with the court on this one. However, I think we have the scoop on him, and the prosecutors will now have to detail it a bit by placing charges on him. It is going to close up some intelligence access for us, which sucks.
37 posted on 12/18/2003 8:33:52 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Dog
Bet there was a closed door session with the DNC chair, Hildebeast, X42, and Dashole. I would never cross Bush/Ashcroft on national defense, however. When they grrrr - there will be a swift plan to handle this matter.
38 posted on 12/18/2003 8:34:20 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Gritty

39 posted on 12/18/2003 8:34:37 AM PST by PISANO (God Bless our Troops........They will not TIRE - They will not FALTER - They will not FAIL!!!!!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
I agree, but I think Galtoid is right: I'm betting we have real dirt on him, and it will come to real charges. Then he can rot some more.

Why didn't they just charge him then? Seems simpler to me. I have little doubt he's dirty in some fashion, but why take the low road on it?

40 posted on 12/18/2003 8:34:59 AM PST by NukeMan
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