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Hugh & Series, Critical & Pulled by JimRob
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 17 December 2003 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 12/17/2003 3:05:36 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

This is nothing like the usual whine by someone whose post was pulled. JimRob pulled my previous thread for a good reason. "If direct fund-raising were permitted on FR, it would soon be wall-to-wall fund-raising."

So, let's start again correctly. This is about civil disobedience to support the First Amendment and challenge the TERRIBLE CFR decision of the Supreme Court to uphold a terrible law passed by Congress and signed by President Bush.

All who are interested in an in-your-face challenge to the 30- and 60-day ad ban in the Campaign Finance "Reform" Act, please join in. The pattern is this: I'm looking for at least 1,000 people to help the effort. I will run the ad, and risk fines or jail time to make it work -- AND get national support.

But there should be NO mentions of money in this thread, and not in Freepmail either. This is JimRob's electronic home, and we should all abide his concerns.

Put your comments here. Click on the link above, and send me your e-mail addresses. I will get back to you by regular e-mail with the practical details.

This CAN be done. This SHOULD be done. But it MUST be done in accord with JimRob's guidelines.

Fair enough?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Free Republic; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 30dayads; blowhard; civildisodedience; constitution; firstamendment; gasbag; mccainfeingold; scotus
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To: exmarine
What kind of people am I? Inquring minds want to know...

Schizophrenice apparently. But then, so are we.

121 posted on 12/18/2003 10:29:24 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: StoneColdGOP; exmarine; Avoiding_Sulla
I meant to ping you when I posted #120
122 posted on 12/18/2003 10:29:57 AM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: B4Ranch
If I have been, I'll take it as a compliment.
123 posted on 12/18/2003 11:17:26 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: exmarine
The evidence is the actions he took and the way he defended them. Even his Republican colleagues on the bench and the conservative Attorney General couldn't support him.

If the former Judge Moore runs for Governor, maybe you'll finally see the light. I doubt it, but there's always hope.

124 posted on 12/18/2003 11:21:50 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
I can't see if you pinged me as a "Stallwort Cunswervative" or not! I don't rememmer gittin the ping and the pingy thingy cuts of like this...
125 posted on 12/18/2003 11:26:05 AM PST by SierraWasp (Any elected official or citizen that supports illegal aliens is nothing but a worthless scoff-law!!!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
You have freepmail. I'm proud to see unconstitutional bilge being confronted, and Freepers leading the charge.
126 posted on 12/18/2003 11:26:16 AM PST by freedomcrusader
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To: Dog Gone
The evidence is the actions he took and the way he defended them. Even his Republican colleagues on the bench and the conservative Attorney General couldn't support him.

The ruling was ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL. We are a nation of laws, not arbitrary judges. Get it? Just because some judge says something is law, that doesn't make it law. The law makes it law. Do you know the difference between the two? That pathetic AG - Prior- is a traitor and a back-stabbing spineless jellyfish, just like the rest of the Republican Party. His republican colleagues on the bench are sell-outs and I have zero respect for any of these betrayers.

127 posted on 12/18/2003 11:26:25 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Dog Gone
If the former Judge Moore runs for Governor, maybe you'll finally see the light. I doubt it, but there's always hope.

If he does run, he will win by a landslide, and I hope it sticks in your craw! I love it when secular humanists are confounded!

128 posted on 12/18/2003 11:32:20 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Congressman Billybob
So are TV stations subject to penalties if they run an ad by, for example, the NRA within 60 days of an election, or is the NRA alone at risk?

129 posted on 12/18/2003 11:37:45 AM PST by freedomcrusader
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To: Congressman Billybob
As I recall the USSC said they would revisit the issue?
130 posted on 12/18/2003 11:44:02 AM PST by gogeo (Short and non offensive)
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To: gogeo
The Court said it might revisit the decision based on the facts as they arise. That's like having your throat cut, but the murderer offers you a Band-Aid in case the bleeding gets to severe. Yes, the Court said it might revisit the subject. I count that promise as worthless.

John / Billybob

131 posted on 12/18/2003 12:02:28 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: exmarine
I'm not a secular humanist and I don't care if Moore is elected governor. Have at it.

I just think that is highly ironic that his actions damaged the cause he claimed to be championing, yet you love him for doing them. The situation regarding the so-called separation of church and state is worse today, thanks to Judge Moore.

He's certainly not my hero.

132 posted on 12/18/2003 12:14:30 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: freedomcrusader
The NRA is not a "federal candidate." So they don't have the benefit of the "must carry" rule that applies to candidates only. So it is possible that stations could refuse to run a proffered NRA ad.

That's why the NRA is talking about buying a TV station. The exception in the CFR law for "the press" is defined by what the newspaper, TV station, network, whatever, DOES, not who owns it. That's a smart idea by the NRA. But their situation as a "civic issue organization" is quite different from mine as a potential candidate for Congress.

Does that make sense?

John / Billybob

133 posted on 12/18/2003 12:28:03 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Dog Gone
I just think that is highly ironic that his actions damaged the cause he claimed to be championing, yet you love him for doing them. The situation regarding the so-called separation of church and state is worse today, thanks to Judge Moore.

Baloney. It is prior, the 8 other justices and their ilk who have damaged the situation by signing on to the ILLEGAL doctrine of separation of church and state! You have a bizarre sense of responsibility. If you want to roll over and play dead to the these tyrants on the politburo, go ahead! I won't and Judge Moore won't! What is needed is defiance! Civil disobedience to bad judges and bad leaders!

All we need is for more passive obsequious people like you who bend a knee to every bad judge, and then we can just surrender to the anti-Christian bigots!

If you want to render obeisance to marxists, go ahead! Just don't try to recruit any true Constitutionalist as we will spit on your efforts. Got it?

134 posted on 12/18/2003 2:07:40 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Candidate to force broadcast + corporation to make it violate the [unconstitutional] law...

That's utterly brilliant, John.

Sign me up.

PS Don't worry about returning the book right now; too many other important things going on.
135 posted on 12/18/2003 2:29:56 PM PST by George Smiley (Is the RKBA still a right if you have to get the government's permission before you can exercise it?)
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To: exmarine
If you want to render obeisance to marxists, go ahead! Just don't try to recruit any true Constitutionalist as we will spit on your efforts. Got it?

I've got you down as someone who has more passion than understanding of what really happened. By the way, the correct spelling is "Pryor" and he's currently being filibustered by the Senate Democrats because he's too conservative to be a federal judge in their opinion.

I'm not bending a knee to anyone, and your need to personalize your attacks on me in every post is starting to get old.

136 posted on 12/18/2003 2:31:40 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
I've got you down as someone who has more passion than understanding of what really happened. By the way, the correct spelling is "Pryor" and he's currently being filibustered by the Senate Democrats because he's too conservative to be a federal judge in their opinion.

I know what happened. Who do you think you are talking to? Some moron from the Appalachians? I understand the Constitution better than your boy "Pryor" and apparently better than you. You see, it is written so that it doesn't take an amoral lawyer to understand it; oh, and guess what, there is no doctrine of separation of church and state prior to Everson in 1947 - but I'm sure you know that; and there is no right to sodomy, no right to privacy and no right to not be offended in that noble document.

As for Pryor, he isn't fit for the federal court - he's a traitor and a yes man in my opinion.

And mark my words, the people of Alabama will elect Moore to whatever office he runs for - I just hope he runs against that miscreant Pryor. The people will decide that race, not some oligarch in a black robe!

If you want to criticize Moore, go commiserate with other lawyers who think like you.

Any time you want to debate the decision to remove that decalog, I'm ready. Let's debate it on its historical constitutional merits, shall we? For starters, tell me: What law did Moore break by its display?

137 posted on 12/18/2003 2:43:07 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Dog Gone
By the way, I couldn't care less about the logjam in the U.S. Senate over Bush's nominations. Most of them aren't true conservatives, just as Bush himself isn't. The GOP has abandoned its conservative principles. The are spinelss jellyfish who have no stomach for battles.
138 posted on 12/18/2003 2:50:34 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: exmarine
He didn't break any law, and I'm really not interested in hijacking Congressman Billybob's thread about Campaign Finance Reform to rehash all the old arguments.

If you're interested in my opinion of what he did wrong, either search my comments or any of the major threads back when this was news. I laid it all out. My objection was NOT to what he was fighting for, but HOW he decided to do it, and why he was certain to lose.

That point seems to be still lost on you, and I'm not going to continue to repeat myself.

You and I are on the same side of the constitutional question, something which apparently you don't know. But I will continue to criticize Moore for setting that cause back, with or without your permission.

139 posted on 12/18/2003 3:03:04 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
You and I are on the same side of the constitutional question, something which apparently you don't know. But I will continue to criticize Moore for setting that cause back, with or without your permission.

You're wrong. We aren't on the same side. I don't like slanderers who pretend to know the ulterior motives of people who stand up for moral and constitutional principle. Get lost lawyer. The longer I talk to you, the madder I get.

140 posted on 12/18/2003 3:12:06 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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