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Flu shot unable to combat virus strain
Associated Press ^ | Mon, Dec. 15, 2003 | DANIEL Q. HANEY

Posted on 12/15/2003 2:44:36 PM PST by ask

Flu shot unable to combat virus strain

Late last winter, a committee of vaccine experts designing this season's flu shot considered their choices. They had two, and both seemed bad.

Should they stick with last year's formula, even though a new strain of the bug was ominously building strength? Or should they try to make a new vaccine and risk complications or delays that could result in a shortage or maybe even no vaccine at all?

In the end, the committee voted 17-1 to bring back last year's version, even though they feared they were telling millions of Americans to roll up their sleeves for shots that might not work very well.

Many of them probably agreed with Dr. Theodore Eickhoff of the University of Colorado, who said: "For the first time in many years of participating in these deliberations, I must add I am very uncomfortable with the recommendation."

What Eickhoff and the others dreaded is exactly what happened. That new strain of flu became the dominant variety, accounting for three-quarters of all cases as the disease got an unusually early start this fall.

About 83 million doses of vaccine were made, but no one really knows how much protection from illness it gives. It almost certainly will not be the usual 70 percent to 90 percent, and some experts fear it is below 50 percent.

"We agonized. We asked repeatedly 'Is there another choice?'" remembered Dr. David Stephens, who chaired the panel and heads infectious diseases at Emory University. "The bottom line is, we weren't really given a choice."

Their experience shows the frustrating and often imprecise nature of humanity's labor to stay ahead of this perennial nuisance and sometime killer.

The flu virus mutates constantly. The Food and Drug Administration, with the help of its expert committee, must decide in late winter what varieties will be the biggest threats. Picking the best combination is a mixture of science, luck and seat-of-the-pants instinct.

"By the time you know what's the right strain, you can't do anything about it," said Dr. Michael Decker, head of scientific affairs at Aventis, one of the three U.S. vaccine makers.

The first inkling of something worrisome dawned on flu experts at the end of January. Just two weeks before committees were scheduled to meet at the World Health Organization in Geneva and the FDA in Rockville, Md., to settle on the makeup of this fall's vaccine, scientists who track the flu noticed a new strain was gathering mass.

The vaccine could theoretically protect against several strains of the virus, but because production is slow, the shot is limited to just three. Any of these flu bugs can make people very sick, but since it emerged in 1968 the one most likely to result in pneumonia or death is a type called H3N2.

Flu viruses are categorized according to the makeup of their two key proteins, hemagglutinin and neuraminidase, the "H" and "N" in their names. Changes in the virus' hemagglutinin is especially troublesome, since this is the protein the human body aims for when it makes antibodies to fight off the flu.

For five years, the vaccine had protected against an H3N2 strain called Panama. Now that virus had mutated. A version with two differences in its hemagglutinin was causing outbreaks in Asia and had also turned up in Europe and North America.

The FDA's committee met in February and heard the bad news: The current vaccine might not reliably keep people from catching this emerging strain, called Fujian.

Nobody knew if the new strain would die out or gain strength, but Dr. Roland Levandowski, the FDA's flu vaccine expert, warned that new flu variants sometimes spread rapidly.

The WHO - which makes vaccine recommendations to countries which set their own vaccine standards - had already postponed its decision on H3N2. The FDA committee did the same.

When the FDA committee met again in March, the situation was, in some ways, even worse. Ten 10 percent to 20 percent of H3N2 viruses around the world were Fujian. But the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was having trouble isolating a sample that could be the basis of a vaccine.

"This is a very urgent issue," CDC flu chief Nancy Cox told the committee. "We've been working on this very intensively for what seems like a very long time. We're very disappointed."

Still ahead were many other steps, as well. The Fujian strain's hemagglutinin and neuraminidase genes would have to be transferred into tame flu viruses that grow nicely in hens' eggs so vaccine makers could produce them in bulk. Even then, it would take weeks to know if the process would reliably generate the vast quantities needed.

"It became, Do we go with a vaccine we know will be partially effective?" remembered Eickhoff. "Or do we wait around and try to identify a possible candidate strain?"

When the vote came, only Peter Palese, head of microbiology at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, chose to switch to the Fujian strain despite the unknowns. He worried that an ineffective formula would give the flu vaccine a bad name because many people might get sick.

The WHO made the same decision as the FDA. In hindsight, was it correct?

Decker recalled what happened in 2000. Delays resulting from a switch to a new strain, along with a virus that produced poorly, contributed to a vaccine shortage.

A last-minute change to Fujian this year "could easily have meant not only a severe shortage but also the wrong vaccine," he said. "Right now, people are saying, 'You idiot, why didn't you choose Fujian?' But what if Fujian had petered out?"

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EDITOR'S NOTE: Medical Editor Daniel Q. Haney is a special correspondent for The Associated Press.

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Meeting transcripts:

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/03/transcripts/3922t1.doc

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/03/transcripts/3941t1.doc


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KEYWORDS: flu; health; vaccine
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To: thatdewd
Captain Trips or, as my hubby calls it 'Bosnian Crud' He's convinced it's an import.
61 posted on 12/15/2003 3:36:12 PM PST by kimmie7 (fa la la la la la la la la fa la la la la la la < breathe!!! > fa la la la la la la la la fa la la!!)
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To: concerned about politics
Kind of makes you think about the way toddlers seem to want to instinctively pick things up off the ground and put them in their mouths - and wheather we're doing them any favors by stopping them.
62 posted on 12/15/2003 3:36:29 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: chicagolady
The flu vaccine can actually weaken the immune system and make you more predisposed to the illness.

That's what I've always thought, and why I've never gotten one. This year I just got the flu instead, lol. Christmas shopping in a crowded store did me in, I think.

63 posted on 12/15/2003 3:36:48 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: goodnesswins
walnuts,

Black or English? My taste buds prefer the black ones, but my fingers are partial to the English variety.

64 posted on 12/15/2003 3:38:33 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: tacticalogic
Kind of makes you think about the way toddlers seem to want to instinctively pick things up off the ground and put them in their mouths - and wheather we're doing them any favors by stopping them.

Yep. "Sanitizing" their surroundings when young really prohibits their ability to fight off germs and viruses later.
We have small farm animals, and it's VERY important to get the colusterum mothers milk into their system within the first 1/2 hour. After that, they can't absorb the antiboties their mother has.

65 posted on 12/15/2003 3:39:48 PM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: tacticalogic
PS....That's another important point. Breast feeding passess on antibodies already developed by the mother. People don't do much of that anymore.
66 posted on 12/15/2003 3:41:47 PM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: lelio
"they weren't exposed to enough disease as kids.

Hehe, yah, tell that to the victims of the flu pandemic of 1918.

Perhaps it's because every once in a while a nasty varient comes along and it's a whopper. I haven't ever had a flu shot and I get the flu every 20 years or so. I did have this strain about two months ago and it was a brute, a good two weeks to get over the worst of it and another two to fully recover, can't recall ever being this sick. One can try and keep up the immune system, I must admit when I traced back where I was exposed it was at a time when I hadn't gotten much sleep (apparently lack of sleep is an immune system killer).

BTW, from what I understand the strain that caused the 1918 pandemic is still out there living in ducks and most likely it'll some day take the jump again from ducks to humans.

Didn't know if your cold and coats was tongue in cheek but getting cold doesn't increase your risk of cold or flu, we get them in winter because we're more often in enclosed places with recirculated air.

67 posted on 12/15/2003 3:42:16 PM PST by Proud_texan
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To: concerned about politics
Certainly.

I recently had prostititus and went to the doc to see what it was and make sure nothing else was wrong. A bacterial infection of the Prostate. First visit in 3 years second in 8.

Of course the best they could do was give me Antibiotics. But my system already knew what to do. Fever and Chills one night and day and I am as good as new.
68 posted on 12/15/2003 3:43:20 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (I don't know... But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking... don't they?)
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To: Proud_texan
BTW, from what I understand the strain that caused the 1918 pandemic is still out there living in ducks and most likely it'll some day take the jump again from ducks to humans.

SARS came from fowl. Maybe it already did.

69 posted on 12/15/2003 3:44:56 PM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: chicagolady
You would have to get 5 big and burly Marines to drag me into a doctors office to get a flu shot.

One small person grabbing Doc by the scrotum can take care of the mission.

70 posted on 12/15/2003 3:45:29 PM PST by verity
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To: CyberCowboy777
I didn't get a flu shot this year. Haven't had one for about twenty years. Haven't had the flu, either. My secret? Stay the hell away from other people, especially kids.
71 posted on 12/15/2003 3:46:45 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: kimmie7
Captain Trips

!!! lol. It's different. I haven't had the flu in years, but I don't EVER remember having one with this much body pain. Maybe I'm just gettin' old.

72 posted on 12/15/2003 3:47:31 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: thatdewd
I understand you.I too am sick as a dog.Didn't get the flu shot because I never get the flu.This one is a whopper.I too am going to retire my eyes hurt looking at this.
73 posted on 12/15/2003 3:49:34 PM PST by tapatio
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To: gcruse
I am a bit of a recluse myself - especially the masses.

But my job takes me from client office to client office so a usually get a touch of something they had for a few hours, maybe a day.... then it is gone.
74 posted on 12/15/2003 3:49:34 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (I don't know... But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking... don't they?)
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To: muggs
I've always heard that the flu shot only lasts for a certain number of months. This year my Dr's office would not give them out the end of sept or early oct, said they would not be any good to cover you in March04!
75 posted on 12/15/2003 3:52:15 PM PST by united1000 ("Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." Lincoln)
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To: concerned about politics
So, if my wife's already had the flu.............
76 posted on 12/15/2003 3:53:34 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Hodar
>> The way your body builds resistance to virus's; it to get the virus. <<

That's what I was trying to say. Thanks for the clarification.
77 posted on 12/15/2003 3:55:10 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (If we accept responsibility for our own actions, we are indeed worthy of our freedom. – Bill Whittle)
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To: EuroFrog
I heard him say to someone that I would be one of those that would end up dead from the flu

Next time ask him why it is that when more people get the flu shot, more people get the flu.

78 posted on 12/15/2003 3:56:21 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: concerned about politics
>> We'll have to get it imported each year. It's not profitable to make it here anymore. <<

Scary thought.

As evil as the hildabeast is, I wonder if the witch did this on purpose.
79 posted on 12/15/2003 3:58:35 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (If we accept responsibility for our own actions, we are indeed worthy of our freedom. – Bill Whittle)
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To: concerned about politics
Good point, it could be it or at least a varient but from what I've read most (but not all) animal/human virus jumps are from either water fowl or swine.

The 1918 version is interesting history.

My father told me that it was so bad that one day you'd see somebody walking down the street and the next day they'd be dead. Most casualities were between 20 and 40 years, not the very young and very old as is common. If I recall correctly it dropped the average life span in the US by 10 years.

Worldwide it killed over 70 million and then one day just went dormant.
80 posted on 12/15/2003 4:04:44 PM PST by Proud_texan
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