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Flu shot unable to combat virus strain
Associated Press ^ | Mon, Dec. 15, 2003 | DANIEL Q. HANEY

Posted on 12/15/2003 2:44:36 PM PST by ask

Flu shot unable to combat virus strain

Late last winter, a committee of vaccine experts designing this season's flu shot considered their choices. They had two, and both seemed bad.

Should they stick with last year's formula, even though a new strain of the bug was ominously building strength? Or should they try to make a new vaccine and risk complications or delays that could result in a shortage or maybe even no vaccine at all?

In the end, the committee voted 17-1 to bring back last year's version, even though they feared they were telling millions of Americans to roll up their sleeves for shots that might not work very well.

Many of them probably agreed with Dr. Theodore Eickhoff of the University of Colorado, who said: "For the first time in many years of participating in these deliberations, I must add I am very uncomfortable with the recommendation."

What Eickhoff and the others dreaded is exactly what happened. That new strain of flu became the dominant variety, accounting for three-quarters of all cases as the disease got an unusually early start this fall.

About 83 million doses of vaccine were made, but no one really knows how much protection from illness it gives. It almost certainly will not be the usual 70 percent to 90 percent, and some experts fear it is below 50 percent.

"We agonized. We asked repeatedly 'Is there another choice?'" remembered Dr. David Stephens, who chaired the panel and heads infectious diseases at Emory University. "The bottom line is, we weren't really given a choice."

Their experience shows the frustrating and often imprecise nature of humanity's labor to stay ahead of this perennial nuisance and sometime killer.

The flu virus mutates constantly. The Food and Drug Administration, with the help of its expert committee, must decide in late winter what varieties will be the biggest threats. Picking the best combination is a mixture of science, luck and seat-of-the-pants instinct.

"By the time you know what's the right strain, you can't do anything about it," said Dr. Michael Decker, head of scientific affairs at Aventis, one of the three U.S. vaccine makers.

The first inkling of something worrisome dawned on flu experts at the end of January. Just two weeks before committees were scheduled to meet at the World Health Organization in Geneva and the FDA in Rockville, Md., to settle on the makeup of this fall's vaccine, scientists who track the flu noticed a new strain was gathering mass.

The vaccine could theoretically protect against several strains of the virus, but because production is slow, the shot is limited to just three. Any of these flu bugs can make people very sick, but since it emerged in 1968 the one most likely to result in pneumonia or death is a type called H3N2.

Flu viruses are categorized according to the makeup of their two key proteins, hemagglutinin and neuraminidase, the "H" and "N" in their names. Changes in the virus' hemagglutinin is especially troublesome, since this is the protein the human body aims for when it makes antibodies to fight off the flu.

For five years, the vaccine had protected against an H3N2 strain called Panama. Now that virus had mutated. A version with two differences in its hemagglutinin was causing outbreaks in Asia and had also turned up in Europe and North America.

The FDA's committee met in February and heard the bad news: The current vaccine might not reliably keep people from catching this emerging strain, called Fujian.

Nobody knew if the new strain would die out or gain strength, but Dr. Roland Levandowski, the FDA's flu vaccine expert, warned that new flu variants sometimes spread rapidly.

The WHO - which makes vaccine recommendations to countries which set their own vaccine standards - had already postponed its decision on H3N2. The FDA committee did the same.

When the FDA committee met again in March, the situation was, in some ways, even worse. Ten 10 percent to 20 percent of H3N2 viruses around the world were Fujian. But the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was having trouble isolating a sample that could be the basis of a vaccine.

"This is a very urgent issue," CDC flu chief Nancy Cox told the committee. "We've been working on this very intensively for what seems like a very long time. We're very disappointed."

Still ahead were many other steps, as well. The Fujian strain's hemagglutinin and neuraminidase genes would have to be transferred into tame flu viruses that grow nicely in hens' eggs so vaccine makers could produce them in bulk. Even then, it would take weeks to know if the process would reliably generate the vast quantities needed.

"It became, Do we go with a vaccine we know will be partially effective?" remembered Eickhoff. "Or do we wait around and try to identify a possible candidate strain?"

When the vote came, only Peter Palese, head of microbiology at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, chose to switch to the Fujian strain despite the unknowns. He worried that an ineffective formula would give the flu vaccine a bad name because many people might get sick.

The WHO made the same decision as the FDA. In hindsight, was it correct?

Decker recalled what happened in 2000. Delays resulting from a switch to a new strain, along with a virus that produced poorly, contributed to a vaccine shortage.

A last-minute change to Fujian this year "could easily have meant not only a severe shortage but also the wrong vaccine," he said. "Right now, people are saying, 'You idiot, why didn't you choose Fujian?' But what if Fujian had petered out?"

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EDITOR'S NOTE: Medical Editor Daniel Q. Haney is a special correspondent for The Associated Press.

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Meeting transcripts:

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/03/transcripts/3922t1.doc

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/03/transcripts/3941t1.doc


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To: CyberCowboy777
The previous post is from the Dr. Mercola website. As Dr. Mercola has stated else where. You would have to get 5 big and burly Marines to drag me into a doctors office to get a flu shot.
21 posted on 12/15/2003 3:06:21 PM PST by chicagolady (Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night)
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To: thatdewd
I have never had it either. Over here (military community in Germany) I walked into the PX and they had a table set up giving ppl the shot, man asked me if I had mine already, told him no, asked if I wanted it, I told him no, as I was walking away I heard him say to someone that I would be one of those that would end up dead from the flu. Got a good laugh from that one.
22 posted on 12/15/2003 3:07:02 PM PST by EuroFrog (Taglines - right under your nose.)
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To: ask
Would someone please explain to me why when I was a child no one got a flu shot and in a class of 42 children, not a one was hospitalized with flu???

Now kids are dropping like flies if you listen to the news! Thank God Sheppard Smith reported two more deaths of children THEN added that these kids had other complications!!
23 posted on 12/15/2003 3:07:23 PM PST by netmilsmom (Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.)
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To: appalachian_dweller
IMHO, it's best to let our bodies naturally build a resistance to these viruses. Best way to avoid the flu, wash your hands.

The way your body builds resistance to virus's; it to get the virus. You do not acquire immunity to a virus by virtue of a diet, once your body discovers an invader; your body develops antibodies to fight the invader.

Washing your hands is a good start, but as influenza is also air borne, you can get it by simply breathing, drinking your hot coco at the airport (where some stranger has sneezed an hour before). The virus floats in the air, lands in your eye, hot cocoa, breathed in or whatever. Then a couple days later, life just ain't much fun.

The FluMist solution seems to provide some protection against the current strains that are making the rounds. The process is not unpleasant, it's like taking a typical nose-spray with one exception. It does NOT taste all that bad. Slight cherry/citrus flavor. I paid $55 for mine, and am getting a $25 rebate. I fly a bit, so spending time in the airport, on a flight and in crowded wait areas make it more than worth my money. But, that's me.

24 posted on 12/15/2003 3:07:38 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: appalachian_dweller
IMHO, it's best to let our bodies naturally build a resistance to these viruses.

That's Lelio's Theory on Why People Get Sick: they weren't exposed to enough disease as kids. Or their parents actually put coats on them when they ran out into the snow.
25 posted on 12/15/2003 3:08:17 PM PST by lelio
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To: chicagolady
DR. MERCOLA'S COMMENT: Chet Day is right on target here. He is one of the few newsletter writers that I am in virtual 100% agreement with.

I have heard some authors state that there is a direct correlation of the number of flu shots one has and the incidence of Alzheimer's. This would be due to the aluminum and mercury that is put in every flu shot.

I could not agree more with his recommendations. I am fond of providing the following answer to people who ask me if they should get a flu shot.

I tell them "Only if they want to get the flu".

26 posted on 12/15/2003 3:08:53 PM PST by chicagolady (Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night)
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To: concerned about politics
The ambulance chasers had a hand in it, too.
27 posted on 12/15/2003 3:09:44 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Cicero
Nope, last years is not still doing its job. In fact, the immunity tends to wane after about eight weeks. If you get the shot early in October, you may need it again in January if the flu is still raging. That is precisely the trouble this year. Early flu bug. Lot's of vaccinations. Supply all gone. Real season just upon us. My advice is to stock up now on a prescription of Tamiflu if you can afford to stockpile meds. It will combat all strains and will keep it from causing serious sequelea.

P.S.- I am the county health officer for a piss-ant rural Texas county.
28 posted on 12/15/2003 3:11:11 PM PST by WilliamWallace1999
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To: appalachian_dweller
Execellent point. Now that the drug companies have made their profit they'll come clean w/ the truth.

They're not making a profit. They're probably just breaking even. They won't make more medicine than they did the year before because of the price caps. The price has been capped to low. If they throw any away, they lose money. They can't make more than they need. It'll cost them. They're being choked by the Hillary price caps.
If this flu problem gets blamed on the pharmacudical companies, expect the last two we have left to get out of the business, too. We'll have to get it imported each year. It's not profitable to make it here anymore.

29 posted on 12/15/2003 3:11:42 PM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: netmilsmom
The Huddled masses have always had deaths due to the flu, they are generally un healthy with other complications or illnesses that cause death.

Millions have died of the Flu over the centuries, but always the huddled masses get hit the worse.

Live clean, live outside the teaming masses, eat right - you won't get sick.
30 posted on 12/15/2003 3:11:57 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (I don't know... But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking... don't they?)
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To: netmilsmom
Would someone please explain to me why when I was a child no one got a flu shot and in a class of 42 children, not a one was hospitalized with flu???

I think part of the problem is that we've gone overboard making everything "sanitary" for our children, and leaving them with their immune systems compromised from disuse.

You read about people who live in the city getting deathly ill from e. coli they got in a burger, but never about anyone who lives on a ranch or cattle farm getting ill from it, and they're exposed to it every day.

31 posted on 12/15/2003 3:12:29 PM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Hodar
"People are dying from the flu because they are already sick and have compromised immune systems. The majority of the cause is surely related to eating too much sugar and too many grains, getting inadequate rest."...Dr. Mercola
the most read doctor on the Internet.

Obviously you disagree with him.
You can have my flu shot while you are at it.
When I was young..I got the flu , I got better. Guess what folks get sick and since we are fearfully and wonderfully made, most of the population can fight the flu and get better.

God was not surprized by this years flu strain.
32 posted on 12/15/2003 3:13:14 PM PST by chicagolady (Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night)
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To: Hodar
You do not acquire immunity to a virus by virtue of a diet

No, but your immune system is greatly enhanced by virtue of a good diet.

33 posted on 12/15/2003 3:13:56 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (I don't know... But some people without brains do an awful lot of talking... don't they?)
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To: chicagolady
I've never had a flu shot. I've had a few mild cases of flu over the years, but never anything drastic. I think the best way to avoid the flu is to (as others have stated) wash hands often, and keep the immune system in good shape. I haven't had the flu in several years.
34 posted on 12/15/2003 3:15:26 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: concerned about politics
Now, $100 million may seem like a ton of money to spend on ads, but does anyone care to guess how much they anticipate making on this vaccine?

The answer is a cool $1 billion...Dr. Mercola

If you think drug companies are not making a profit, think again.
35 posted on 12/15/2003 3:15:47 PM PST by chicagolady (Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night)
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To: netmilsmom
Now kids are dropping like flies

Plenty of kids used to get sick in the old days. The difference now is that the news media is all over everything--like flies on . . ..

36 posted on 12/15/2003 3:17:05 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: CyberCowboy777
You do not acquire immunity to a virus by virtue of a diet
No, but your immune system is greatly enhanced by virtue of a good diet.

Can't kill a virus. You've got to flush it out. Eat too much carbohidrates (junk) and they get stuck.
Eat a few nuts a day and drink fluids. Keep stuff moving. What goes in must come out quickly so it can't multiply.

37 posted on 12/15/2003 3:18:12 PM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: chicagolady
>>The flu vaccine can actually weaken the immune system and make you more predisposed to the illness.<<

THANK YOU!
Two years ago my hubby and I got the shot. We were great that year. Last year I got everything INCLUDING Mono at 42.
This year I was stupid (scared by a doctor) and got it. 4 weeks later I am still sick (runny eyes, blocked ears, sore throat).

NO WAY will I get this for my kids. I'd rather homeschool.
38 posted on 12/15/2003 3:18:47 PM PST by netmilsmom (Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.)
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To: chicagolady
If you think drug companies are not making a profit, think again.

See post #9

39 posted on 12/15/2003 3:19:33 PM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: netmilsmom
Would someone please explain to me why when I was a child no one got a flu shot and in a class of 42 children, not a one was hospitalized with flu???

And while FReepers are at it: someone explain to me why if you say the word "peanut" at least one person keels over.
40 posted on 12/15/2003 3:20:09 PM PST by lelio
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