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Harley Sorensen: Dems Better Shape Up, Or Get Left Behind
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| Monday, December 15, 2003
| Harley Sorensen
Posted on 12/15/2003 7:37:55 AM PST by presidio9
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:15 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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The Political Party that Stands for Nothing came close to being embarrassed last week when it needed help from San Francisco Republicans to win a run-off election for mayor.
As it turned out, the Democrats didn't act embarrassed. They should have -- and would have, if they had any principles -- but modern Democrats stand for only one thing: winning.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2004; dems; gavinnewsome; harleysorensen; lostdems; mattgonzalez; michaelmoore; socializedmedicine; sorensen; theleft
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posted on
12/15/2003 7:37:56 AM PST
by
presidio9
To: presidio9
Beautiful. The Chronicle's second biggest jerk wants the Dems to move LEFT.
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posted on
12/15/2003 7:39:50 AM PST
by
dighton
To: presidio9
If all of America were like San Francisco, this guy would have a logical point.
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posted on
12/15/2003 7:43:17 AM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(Liberal Whine of The Day. "We are the new Soviet Union. We are the bad guys.")
To: presidio9
but none ever had as much vibrancy and enthusiasm as the Matt Gonzalez party last week. The place was absolutely packed with enthusiastic young people in their 20s and 30s. I've never seen anything like it. Wow. a bunch of 20- and 30-year olds at a party where drugs and sex were no doubt passed around like hors d'ourves. And he's never seen anything like it.
How long has this guy lived in SF?
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posted on
12/15/2003 7:46:14 AM PST
by
TheBigB
(Just because you talk slower...doesn't mean your thoughts are any deeper...)
To: TheBigB
Keep telling yourself "Do just like we did in San Fran", Harley.
To: presidio9
This ex cabbie driver sounds sooo i dont know,nasaly?
if the dimwits go much further left they will end up flinging themselves from the ledge they are so precariously balanced upon.
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posted on
12/15/2003 7:49:46 AM PST
by
suzyq5558
(My motherinlaw is a CNN groupie.)
To: presidio9
Germany's health care is going broke. High tax rate, causes low birthrate and illegal immigration milking the system is causing the system to run out of money within two generations. As one Czech politician remarked, "..EU think life is centered on how many paid vacations and free services one can get from the state.." The real world is producing services and products which create profit and wealth, in turn can sustain a modern large military. Three great nations in this world are embarked on this path, the US, China and India. Ironic, it was ironclad British, French and US steam warships that sailed into China, India and Japan, confronted their castle forts and wooden ships to open trade in the 19th Century. It would be ironic if it will be US, Chinese and Indian "battlestars" that hoover over defenseless London, Paris and Berlin to renegotiate trade in the 23rd Century.
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posted on
12/15/2003 7:54:01 AM PST
by
Fee
To: dighton
The Chronicle just about outright endorsed the Green party during the elections for mayor. In fact it even brought up Memogate, but only in a bid to hurt the Democrats in favor of the Green party.
To: presidio9
A few months ago, I was in the Twin Cities, and I decided to listen to Michael Moore speak at the University of Minnesota's Sports Pavilion. Ha! Not in my wildest dreams would I have expected what I saw when I got there. The 7,300-seat auditorium was sold out! Yeah sure. Minneapolis just such a conservative city. The U of M Twin Cities has 49,000 students, Minneapolis is a city of 382,000 if you just count its city limits. 20,000 Dems showed up to Wellstone's funeral "rally." And wow, a whole 7,000 plus people showed up to hear an anti-Bush rant? Can you feel the excitement?
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posted on
12/15/2003 8:14:58 AM PST
by
Snake65
(Osama Bin Decomposing)
To: I_Love_My_Husband
you might have seen this already...
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posted on
12/15/2003 8:35:14 AM PST
by
KneelBeforeZod
(If God hadn't meant for them to be sheared, he wouldn't have made them sheep.)
but none ever had as much vibrancy and enthusiasm as the Matt Gonzalez party last week. The place was absolutely packed with enthusiastic young people in their 20s and 30s. I've never seen anything like it. hmmm really? when I saw gonzales' hq on TV after he had accepted defeat, it looked like a bunch of old shellshocked nutcases, wandering around in a stupor, or crying in the corner.
guess the young ones took off to a rave or went to a drum circle or something. no one likes a loser I guess
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posted on
12/15/2003 8:39:36 AM PST
by
KneelBeforeZod
(If God hadn't meant for them to be sheared, he wouldn't have made them sheep.)
To: presidio9
I said "ruining the practice" of medicine. I have a doctor relative who sees patients all day, then does two to three hours of paperwork every night. Doctors are dropping out of the profession left and right, a phenomenon unheard of in the past. Course, this has nothing to do with the HMO's and gov. rules and lawyers that have happened in the last 20 years.
What did doctors do when it was JUST insurance companies before the gov. got involved? Seems to me that everyone wanted to be a doctor and they used to make money and our system of health care was the best.
Why would we want to go to a health care like England, Canada or germany?
To: presidio9
The Political Party that Stands for Nothing...The Seinfeld Party!!
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posted on
12/15/2003 9:29:00 AM PST
by
uglybiker
(Bill Clinton STILL sucks!)
To: presidio9
Something's going on in this country, and the Democrats had better pick up on it. Books by Moore, Al Franken and other outspoken liberal writers are selling big. There is a hunger for reform, for the return of decency to our nation's politics and policies. Ah yes. The genteel and decent political statements conveyed by "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot," "Stupid White Men," "Downsize This! Random Threats from an Unarmed American," "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right," etc. What's going on in this country, Mr. Sorensen, is that the left is becoming increasingly angry, and polemicists like Franken and Moore are giving the Angry Left market what it wants.
To: presidio9
"Doctors are dropping out of the profession left and right, a phenomenon unheard of in the past."
Not unheard of in any of the other 100 industrializied nations using the single payer systems.
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posted on
12/15/2003 12:39:46 PM PST
by
jazzo
To: presidio9
"Of all the candidates, only Dennis Kucinich has the courage to call for a "single payer" (government-run) health-care system, the kind used successfully by every other industrialized nation in the world."
I would ask what this guy's been smoking, but coming from San Francisco, I guess that's a no-brainer.
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posted on
12/15/2003 12:50:24 PM PST
by
Spok
To: .cnI redruM
If all of America were like San Francisco,...
there wouldn't be an America.
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posted on
12/15/2003 4:27:10 PM PST
by
polemikos
(Liberalism - A Disease of the Mind)
To: presidio9
Of all the candidates, only Dennis Kucinich has the courage to call for a "single payer" (government-run) health-care system, the kind used successfully by every other industrialized nation in the world.*COUGH COUGH*
To: presidio9
Something's going on in this country, and the Democrats had better pick up on it. Books by Moore, Al Franken and other outspoken liberal writers are selling big. There is a hunger for reform, for the return of decency to our nation's politics and policies.This author's completely gone. He doesn't get that these books are selling big to the radical fringe of the Democratic Party--and taking the party down at the same time.
I have to wonder if Franken and Moore are closet conservatives posing as liberals just to make the left look stupid. Nah!
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