Posted on 12/11/2003 10:35:18 AM PST by Destro
In a discussion on this thread Tom Ridge's Immigration Remarks Draw Fire a post regarding the conservative angst about the recent campaign finance reform that Bush signed into law and that the Supreme Court approved (and the approval was praised by the White House), on the heals of the Medicare entitlement enacted under a Republican controlled government the following was posted:
I'm hearing Rush now. He claims the republicans have ONLY one party to go to. He has put this issue squarely on the problem. We need to vote outside of this corrupt party apparatus.
12 posted on 12/11/2003 12:39:52 PM EST by Digger
I also heard this on Rush and my blood boiled. Rush said conservatives have no place else to go and thus will continue to vote as a block to the Republicans.....and then it hit me. That is exactly what we conservatives lament about Blacks and the Democratic party. Black Democrats who vote straight Democratic and are rewarded by being ignored.
In other words, Conservatives are now the "Blacks" of the Republican Party!!!
I urge the same solution to Republican conservatives that Black conservatives offer to Black Democrats. QUIT! Become independents and let the parties fight for our votes. If we can't take the GOP back we should leave the GOP.
I did not change. My party did. I thank God Ronald Reagan is unable to comprehend what is happening to the party he saved.
If I knew what you meant, I wouldn't have asked. Perhaps you don't know what you mean either, since you've yet to explain it.
"I could be wrong in assuming you're just an a$$."
Hello, pot. This is kettle. You are Black.
I love my country more than any of you Bushbots. You don't care if the Constitution is trashed! How American does that make you??
Bill Clinton elected twice. American people are Guilty as charged. You are in denial.
Your absolutely right. Americans suck and America sucks too. Us "real" patriots need to form our own government based on the Constitution.
Naturally we'll have to deport or execute all of the citizens of the "old" country since they are too stupid and sinful to live in ours.
Sign me up Sarge. /sarcasm
Spare me your red herring sarcasm. Did or did not America elect Clinton twice and give Gore more votes than Bush? Yes or no? What is your excuse for that? Is that a moral people electing these slobs? Think again Einstein.
When one group is burning condos in Vail, Colorado, the groups who want to just keep people from getting to out-of-the-way places seem (almost) reasonable. Other options (such as taking care of your own land) are not discussed or even presented, being part of the "Right Wing Extremist" view.
All major issues have been presented this way, with gradations of liberal solutions to problems, real and especially imagined, and only the most extreme Right Wing solutions (if any) presented. The liberal gradations are presented as "reasonable" solutions, and the "Right Wing Extremist" viewpoint accompanied by picktures of KKK and Neonazis (Even though Nazis are Socialists by definition, and belong on the left).
This has shifted the debate completely out of the conservative arena. You are either for some form of more gun control, or slaughter in the streets, according to the Media.
Others:
You are either for a woman's right to choose what happens to her body (and slaughter the unborn) or you are for mothers dying giving birth to horribly malformed microcephalic offspring of rape and incest.
Sign the Kyoto treaty or poison the planet.
Save every little species in an undisturbed habitat, no matter the cost or all life will perish from the Earth. , etc., etc., etc.
You have seen it, you have heard it, now is it any wonder that over a decade of this type of issue presentation by the media has had an effect on the way issues are perceived or debated?
Until the ability to define the issues in a conservative light in a meaningful arena is a reality, this situation will continue to get worse.
If the gun control debate were over private ownership of artillery pieces, if the abortion debate were over whether abortion should be used to save the mother's life, if the environmental debates were over whether the government has a right to intrude into private property which does not affect others, or whether a school has any business playing social worker, we would live in a very different culture. These options are never presented.
All right wing views are presented as extremism, not just the extreme ones, and this will continue to cost conservatives their rights and standing in the political world.
Don't put words in my mouth, just read what I wrote. Liberalism is a mental delusion - rarely if ever do such people turn the other way. On the contrary, their ranks grow every year with the influx of more democratic voters from Mexico and other 3rd world countries, and yes, you are right, from the universities and govt. schools who indoctrinate everyone into liberalism and secular humanism. As Lincoln said, "the philosophy of the classroom today will be the philosophy of government tomorrow" and this is coming true before our eyes!
Conservatives haven't one anything. In fact, the Bush Admin. is a brief interlude - America is on a moral freefall - anyone can see that. Know any other civilizations in history that have legalized gay marriage? Hint: There aren't any! And immoral people love democrats.
That's right - more people vote democrat, and their ranks will only grow! America has been invaded by 40 million 3rd worlders and many who call themselves conservatives are too apathetic to vote.
Your analysis is laughable. Anyone interested in learning the importance of conservatives to the GOP should read Lee Edwards' The Conservative Revolution: the Movement that Remade America. Apparently you miss the good old days of the Rockefeller wing running the show.
What, exactly, is incorrect in my post?
Dean is as missing in action as the President's National Guard records, my friend.
Well, it's good to see that in your 3 weeks at FR you've learned how to make a valuable contribution. Let us all know how the bug hunt goes for you.
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