Posted on 12/11/2003 10:35:18 AM PST by Destro
In a discussion on this thread Tom Ridge's Immigration Remarks Draw Fire a post regarding the conservative angst about the recent campaign finance reform that Bush signed into law and that the Supreme Court approved (and the approval was praised by the White House), on the heals of the Medicare entitlement enacted under a Republican controlled government the following was posted:
I'm hearing Rush now. He claims the republicans have ONLY one party to go to. He has put this issue squarely on the problem. We need to vote outside of this corrupt party apparatus.
12 posted on 12/11/2003 12:39:52 PM EST by Digger
I also heard this on Rush and my blood boiled. Rush said conservatives have no place else to go and thus will continue to vote as a block to the Republicans.....and then it hit me. That is exactly what we conservatives lament about Blacks and the Democratic party. Black Democrats who vote straight Democratic and are rewarded by being ignored.
In other words, Conservatives are now the "Blacks" of the Republican Party!!!
I urge the same solution to Republican conservatives that Black conservatives offer to Black Democrats. QUIT! Become independents and let the parties fight for our votes. If we can't take the GOP back we should leave the GOP.
I did not change. My party did. I thank God Ronald Reagan is unable to comprehend what is happening to the party he saved.
It seems to me you've not offered a single argument. I've said you will help get Dean elected for 4 years and subject 280 million Americans to his policies. Your only defense for this is "God told me to do it."
Offer some insight on this please. It seems to me you look forward to it.
More than 50% of the vote went to Gore. So, blame godless liberal America if Dean gets elected. I can't be blamed for electing someone I don't vote for so your argument is afallacious lie, but then again, it is the same mantra that you Bushies repeat over and over - it's all you got even if it is lame.
You know if God is calling you to help subject 280 million people to 4 more years of rampant liberalism then go for it -- but you'd be happier over at the DU during those 4 years.
You mean under Bush? The explosion in big government? Got an excuse for that liberalism? Or his kissing up to Mexico and turning a blind eye to illegal immigration? Huh? Or his kissing up to homosexual churches in his attempt to try to please everyone at the expense of truth? Got any defense for Bush? Let's shine the spotlight on Bush.
Next post, I expect to see some sort of rational defense for Bush's liberal anti-constitutional policies. If you can't defend it, just go away. I don't have time for Bush worshippers.
Review the thread moron. Check out the LAUNDRY LIST OF GRIPES AGAIN THE LIBERAL BUSH. It is you who lacks an argument. YOu have nothing but the tired hackneyed banal overused fallacious argument that "a vote for a third party is a vote for the Democrat" neener neener neener. My vote is for the most conservative, constitutional and moral candidate, and that's not Dean no matter how you look at it. Get that through your doltish brain.
Read the U.S. Constitution! It MANDATES BY LAW that Congress declare war. The Constitution is the LAW OF THE LAND and your boy took an oath to it! People like you scare me - you couldn't give a flip about the Bill of Rights as long as your R is in the White House! Marxist!
Got it. You're a whiner. You've already written off America as nothing but sinners and are looking forward to its demise and destruction. Explains a lot about your other posts.
Bush isn't 100% conservative by you're standards and you want to punish him for it like a 4yr old. I wouldn't be surprised to see you complaining about the constitution party if they ever managed to win (never BTW). No one will ever live up to your standards and you'll never actually take part in our political process.
I can debate drug prescription bill and I don't need to defend any increases in spending or the aid to Iraq.
I reject anything else you said as actually being the conservative position. "Kissing up to Mexico" is not a liberal position. I sense some racism in that statement though.
Turning a blind eye to illegal immigration? What do you want a wall -- spot executions? Last I heard military drones were being placed on the borders and Bush was against licenses for illegals. The only way to stop illegals is with a cashless society -- certainly not a conservative position. The constitution party is absolutely isolationist which is the WRONG position for this country. DO you really think God wants America to withdraw itself from this world?
I don't know anything about homosexual churches but I thought it was constutional for a representative of the government to not restrict the free exercise of religion.
I take it you'll be upset when the constitution party doesn't squash all of the "homosexual churches" and probably all other non-Christian churches. I guess you are willing to overlook that part of the Bill of Rights though.
I'm done talking to you -- because you cannot debate without patronizing which is really annoying. Don't know what state you are from but hopefully your vote won't matter.
You just don't like the truth. The fact of the matter is that much of America is immoral. Gore's vote proves it. Deal with it - America is going down the tubes at light speed. Wake up and smell reality Roger Ramjet. By your logic, anyone who doesn't like the fact that Bush signed the biggest big govt. welfare bill in decades is a whiner? I get it.
Bush isn't 100% conservative by you're standards and you want to punish him for it like a 4yr old. I wouldn't be surprised to see you complaining about the constitution party if they ever managed to win (never BTW). No one will ever live up to your standards and you'll never actually take part in our political process.
By my standards? By any defintion of conservative I have ever seen! Winning an election doesn't make one moral or right or good. Need some examples from history of bad people who were elected to office?
I can debate drug prescription bill and I don't need to defend any increases in spending or the aid to Iraq.
You can? When will you start?
I reject anything else you said as actually being the conservative position. "Kissing up to Mexico" is not a liberal position. I sense some racism in that statement though.
Hahaha. I see...wanting our govt to obey the Constitution and protect our country from invasion is a LIBERAL position! More fine logic from the king of logic. Liberals do scream racism whenever somone disagrees with them - by that criteria you are the liberal.
Turning a blind eye to illegal immigration? What do you want a wall -- spot executions? Last I heard military drones were being placed on the borders and Bush was against licenses for illegals. The only way to stop illegals is with a cashless society -- certainly not a conservative position. The constitution party is absolutely isolationist which is the WRONG position for this country. DO you really think God wants America to withdraw itself from this world?
I want something done, as do 80% of all other Americans! We are losing our sovereignty and our American character. Those illegals are not loyal to America, they are loyal to Mexico! Read the LAW - it says that sneaking across the border is ILLEGAL. Git it? The Constitution demands that the govt protect us from invasion -when will they do their job? Moreover, have you heard of terrorism - do you really think it is smart to have wide open borders when we are in a war? duh...
I take it you'll be upset when the constitution party doesn't squash all of the "homosexual churches" and probably all other non-Christian churches. I guess you are willing to overlook that part of the Bill of Rights though.
People can believe anything they want, worship any god they want - just don't force their homosexual lifestyle on my kids or my family - and that is what radical homosexuals are trying to do. They want to force gay marriage down America's throats and force everyone to agree it is moral. Never happen. But I can see now that you are liberal in many ways. You are no conservative.
I'm done talking to you -- because you cannot debate without patronizing which is really annoying. Don't know what state you are from but hopefully your vote won't matter.
Yeah, run away. You can't take the heat. I'll eat you alive in any argument.
Whatever you say scarecrow. You are much better at patronizing and insulting than I am. You win. I'll vote for Nader -- hey its not vote for Dean. In fact everyone here vote for a 3rd party candidate. Don't worry Dean won't win unless he gets ALOT of votes.
That's right - they've ignored the Constitution since 1941. Got an defense for that - a LEGAL one?
I would not vote rather than vote for a BAD candidate. If Dean is elected, you can blame Americans for it as a republic ALWAYS gets what it deserves in any election. No way around it. But it so happens that The Constitution Party represents TRUE conservatism. The GOP is a party of liberal unconstitutional spineless jellyfish.
I didn't say he was. It wouldn't matter though -- its not like I'm voting for Dean. I mean those godless American heathens are going to elect him anyway right? Serves 'em right. Man I'm a convert to your way of thinking now. You don't need to insult me you've won. Down with Bush -- up with whoever.
You preach it bruuuther. Hell bound! America is hell bound I say...
I wonder where he lives. No state flag and keeps talking about Americans like he's not one.
Yeah right! I think even you know what I mean. I could be wrong in assuming you're just an a$$. Blackbird.
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