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I'll Stand with George W. Bush
TooGoodReports.com ^ | 12/11/2003 | Bernard Chapin

Posted on 12/11/2003 7:59:11 AM PST by happykidjill

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To: ColdSteelTalon
Vote Libertarian = Vote Democrat
21 posted on 12/11/2003 8:39:53 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004!! Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: happykidjill
It is my goal to conserve America's wonderful, non-living Constitution,

Then you better not support Bush anymore. Yesterday all the chickens came home to roost.

22 posted on 12/11/2003 8:42:05 AM PST by Protagoras (Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: happykidjill
Federalist Paper 45, James Madison wrote:"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will for the most part be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects, which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties and properties of the people; and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State."

I don't want to die at the hands of terrorists, so I'll vote against the DimRATs, but I'm not going to call it a vote for the Constitution trashing, Medicine Socialing, pocket picker for African Dictators, Teddy Kennedy education boondoogle ally, borders wide open, steel tariff imposing, 16% budget increasing, airport deadbeat federalizing, BIG GOVT, Nanny State, low-life enough to use the WOT to hold us hostage, RINO known as Commissar Bush.

Read Walter E. Williams at Jewish World Review.

Bush, the 'RATs, the RINOs, SCOTUS all think they know better than the Founding Fathers, what a bunch of arrogant arseholes!

The Liberal GOP has sold us out list:

Downpayment Aid OK'd for Poor Families(More Income Confiscation, Wealth Redistribution)
Bush aides anger GOP lawmakers on consular Ids(Open Borders for All)
UNESCO Welcomes US, For a Few Dollars More (Undoing Reagan)
$15b Sought to Fight AIDS(Bribes for African Dictators)
Lay off Arafat, Powell tells Israel(Double standard terrorism enablers)
Steel Tariffs Cost Jobs(Free trade party? Ha!)
The Sky’s the Limit: Medicare’s Upwardly Mobile Drug Cost Projections(Socialized Medicine, HillaryCare Lite)
Estrada withdraws name from court consideration(no support from GOP Senators)
'Bush totally against scrapping H1-B visas'
'Open Fields' bill would pay farmers to open lands to public use


23 posted on 12/11/2003 8:43:38 AM PST by putupon ( I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: futureceo31
The Libertarians believe in legalizing drugs, do they not?

Far closer to 'playing with the devil' than a few diplomatic words taken completly out of context, IMO.

Anyone who votes Libertarian on 'moral' grounds is being fundamentally dishonest.

24 posted on 12/11/2003 8:44:29 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004!! Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: concerned about politics
You're not seeing behind the scenes.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

25 posted on 12/11/2003 8:45:11 AM PST by Protagoras (Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: ohioWfan
Anyone who votes Libertarian on 'moral' grounds is being fundamentally dishonest.

Anyone who votes for anyone on moral grounds is fundamentally insane.

Putting politicions in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.

26 posted on 12/11/2003 8:47:31 AM PST by Protagoras (Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: happykidjill
He brings in moderate voters the way my old Erie Dearie lures used to bag walleyes .

It's a strategy. One the libertarians, ultra conservatives, non-logicons refuse to accept. Bush would be re-elected regardless if he kissed Kennedy's butt because the Democratic party is split in half becuause of Howard Dean. The strategy is to shake an image that shows Republicans are mean spirited selfish rich people. Shaking that image by appealling to the moderate voter will help him but it's the Senate races that he intends to affect. The ultimate goal here in this strategy is 60 Senators.

Can anyone telling me why the benefit of 60 Republican Senators outweighs the liberal gesture by George Bush?

27 posted on 12/11/2003 8:47:37 AM PST by m1-lightning ("Just a fly in the ointment. A monkey in the wrench. A pain in the ass.")
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To: beckett
I was thinking of:

Support Terrorism
Vote Democratic


Great minds I guess
28 posted on 12/11/2003 8:48:08 AM PST by gbaker
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To: happykidjill
We must support him because heady days await and also because his reelection keeps the Democrat Party headless

Yes.

29 posted on 12/11/2003 8:48:14 AM PST by RightWingMama
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To: ColdSteelTalon
As a Christian, I have a real problem with the time he equated Allah with Jehovah...

He's half right. Muslims are actually waiting for the return of Christ.
Way back when, their religion was the worship of a moon God. The Christians came through the area and taught them about Christ. They then mixed their moon God (some were not willing to give him up) with the Christian God of Abraham. That's why some are for peace, some for ruling the world through oppression. It's a mix of the two.
Voo-Doo is a mix of ancient rituals and Catholicism because of missionaries.

It makes me think about voting libertairian

Libertarians support a liberal lifestyle - anti-Biblical. You might want to check out their positions before you pull that lever or punch that hole.

30 posted on 12/11/2003 8:51:01 AM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: ohioWfan
I wanted to see your logic so I could detect the flaw.

There are things that every conservative disagrees with that this President has done, but most of us understand that there is much more at stake than prescription drugs or the farm bill.

Here is your flaw. There is NOTHING more important than the preservation of our Bill of Rights. This president is not committed to that preservation.

There is the security of this nation. There is standing strong for American interests abroad. There is the respect for and support of our military.

Without freedom, there is nothing to defend. I would not be terribly concerned for the defence of Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, either.

It has absolutely NOTHING to do with anyone's 'personality.'

The love of Bush in the face of the bills he has signed and his lack of concern over the sanctity of the Constitution is absolutely evidence of a cult of personality.

31 posted on 12/11/2003 8:52:00 AM PST by Lazamataz (Hillary Clinton is a CLINQUANT without the LINQA.)
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To: happykidjill
I've sttod pretty solidly behind W, but the recent Grover Norquist buisness depresses me as it makes Bush look about as stupid as so many of his detractors have claimed. And when I contrast what our military forces are doing afield with this coddling of Islamists, that appears to even still be going on, it just sortta makes me feel ill.
32 posted on 12/11/2003 8:52:43 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Protagoras
Then you better not support Bush anymore. Yesterday all the chickens came home to roost.

Enlighten me. What exactly did President Bush do yesterday? (he asks, knowing full well Protag is referring to a Supreme Court decision)

33 posted on 12/11/2003 8:53:06 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
As a Christian, I have a real problem with the time he equated Allah with Jehovah... It makes me think about voting libertairian because there may not be a choice next year, cause I sure as heck will not vote for a Demoncrat.

As a Christian you should be worried about the actions of the courts before you worry about the thoughts of the President. You can't change the courts without George Bush and a few more Republican Senators.

34 posted on 12/11/2003 8:54:46 AM PST by m1-lightning ("Just a fly in the ointment. A monkey in the wrench. A pain in the ass.")
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To: Coop
If you know the answer, why ask the question?
35 posted on 12/11/2003 8:55:23 AM PST by Protagoras (Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
C.S. Lewis addresses the question in his Narini book "The Last Battle". In it a follower of Tash [Allah] makes it into heaven. Aslan [Jesus] explain:

"He answered, Child, all the service thou hast done to Tash, I account as service done to me. Then by reasons of my great desire for wisdom and understanding, I overcame my fear and questioned the Glorious One and said, Lord, is it then true, as the Ape said, that thou and Tash are one? The Lion growled so that the earth shook ( but his wrath was not against me ) and said, It is False. Not because he and I are one, butbecause we are opposites, I take to me the services which thou hast don to him. For I and he are of such different kinds that no service which is vile can be done to me, and none which is not vile can be done to him. Therefore if any man swear by Tash and keep his oath for the oatth's sakeit is by me that he hast truly sworn, though he know it not, and it is I who reward him. And though he says the name Aslan, it is Tash whom he serves and by Tash his deed is accepted. Dost thou understand, Child?"
36 posted on 12/11/2003 8:56:38 AM PST by DManA
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To: Protagoras
Ah.......so those of us who have moral standards, and are praying for America to return to the fundamentally moral precepts it was founded on should ignore the morality of those running for office.........is that what you are saying?

So......from your perspective, if I am strongly, and morally opposed to abortion, I should NOT base a vote for, say, Rick Santorum, based on his morality, and shared opposition to that?

I repeat......is that what you're saying?

37 posted on 12/11/2003 8:57:26 AM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004!! Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: Protagoras
Then you better not support Bush anymore. Yesterday all the chickens came home to roost.

Bush said parts of CFR were unconstitutional. He was honest. He said he'd sign it because of massive support for it, and he asked the SCOTUS to sort it out and do the right thing.
They didn't. They played activists - again!
Support the presidents judicial nominees. Something has to be done about the liberal courts.
Some people are going out of their way lately to Blame Bush for everything. Heck, this place is as bad as DU sometimes! Trolls and many Libertarians didn't vote for him last time anyway!

38 posted on 12/11/2003 8:57:45 AM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: Coop
Yesterday, George Bush sent his administration's employees out to cheer the decision and defend it. That's what he did yesterday.

Which of course had nothing to do with my post. My post talked about what he did in the past. That is what the coming home to roost reference was. I'll try to go slower for you next time.

39 posted on 12/11/2003 8:58:38 AM PST by Protagoras (Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: Protagoras
I wasn't aware that President Bush was on the Supreme Court. I thought only Taft had that honor.
40 posted on 12/11/2003 8:58:58 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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