AMNESTY CRISIS: Fight Tom Ridge's new plan

Numbers USA ^ | 12-10-03 | Roy Beck

[Paul Ross]

Ignoring the problem, or saying something like "deport them all" just shows a lack of understanding of the world, and the spirit of the American People. At least, the spirit I was taught and saw. That spirit seems mighty weak lately.

My, my, my. The lawful response IS to 'deport them all.' You probably were taught that there is no law. And no right to national sovereignty. I am glad that 'that spirit'...globalist anarchy...is 'mighty weak lately.' So you're 'understanding of the world and the spirit of the American People' is what is suspect.

[chicagolady]

Chicagoland Immigration action Ping!

[Pubbie]

The worst bill is the 500,000 Amnesty - and Tancredo says he has enough votes to block it in the House Committees.

Also Rick Perry said there wasn't enough support for an amnesty bill in Congress when he met Vicente Fox.

You are right on one point though - if Bush and Rove could pass a big amnesty bill they would do it - but so far it looks like they don't have enough votes to get anything significant past the neccessary House Committees.

[Klickitat]

Yes. Do you think it is coincidence that the media has been covering so many bleeding heart poor suffering "undocumented workers" types of stories lately?

It's just part of the attempt to shame us, to make us feel that it is wrong not to allow the poor downtrodden victims who just want a job to violate our laws. It would be racist and hard hearted, downright un-American not to allow them citizenship. Then once we've been properly shamed into silence by their propaganda, we won't protest when the amnesties start making their way through congress.

[The Shootist]

Of course they (the illegals) need to be legalized and documented. The Government can, and does, show compelling need to have a record of who is supposed to be here and who isn't.

We cannot very well create a media spectacle of Federal goon squads gathering up suspected illegals and deporting them en masse, it would look to much like Hitler's Germany.

Like it or not legalization may be the only course of action open.

[chicagolady]

I LOVE www.numbersusa.com !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Klickitat]

Me too.

[Viking2002]

Illegal immigration is NOT going to be solved by another round of mewing, cowardly politicians crawling up their own rectal cavities, anointing more migrant lawbreakers with legal status, and paying lip service to what 'should be done'.

Somebody give Tom Tancredo a club and send him over to Ridge's office. Maybe he'll get the point across.

[Pubbie]

What's amazing is that despite all the Media propadanda, the US public remains overwhelmingly opposed to Illegal Immigration.

I guess they can't use the "Illegals Benefit The Economy" argument after the California Fiscal Meltdown...

[Klickitat]

"What's amazing is that despite all the Media propadanda, the US public remains overwhelmingly opposed to Illegal Immigration. "

Yes they are. But the propaganda isn't so much about changing peoples minds as it is about shaming them into silence. Making them feel that they are wrong to want any type of action taken against illegal immigrants. Forestalling the debate over amnesty before it is even begun.

[LADY J]

"We cannot very well create a media spectacle of Federal goon squads gathering up suspected illegals and deporting them en masse, it would look to much like Hitler's Germany."

Europe hates us anyway. If they are so compassionate - we'll send the illegals to them and they can spend their money to take care of the problem.

It ridiculous to give up our country just to look good to those who care less about us anyway.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

The worst bill is the 500,000 Amnesty - and Tancredo says he has enough votes to block it in the House Committees.

Do you have a link to a story on that, I haven't read any of the sort and hope it's true.

The whole point to calling for an anmesty of everyone is so in the end they'll "compromise" and provide only legalization for a smaller number, like maybe 500,000 for agricultural workers. Then everyone pretends it's a victory. That's how politics works, ask for the impossible to get at least something.

[RKV]

Already been done and was successful for a while. Ike did it in 1954 - Operation Wetback. We should do it again.
http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/OO/pqo1.html

[Pubbie]

It's an old story, but I remember Tancredo explicitly said he had enough votes to block the bill, and he said any bill with Amnest in it would be "Very Hard" to pass through the House.

[Dave S]

Ridge has thrown in the towel on law enforcement and says nothing can be done about illegal aliens. In fact, Congress has passed a major law each of the last two years to deal with this problem. These laws have not yet been implemented.

Okay I will bite? What are these laws and how much has congress authorised to spend to implement them? If you are talking about troops on the border you're full of shit. We dont have enough troops now to rotate our troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Korea. What do you want to do give the Dems a reason to reinstitute the draft and blame it on Bush?

And what impact is it going to have on morale to stick our troops another desert but this time give them orders not to fire on anyone unless fired upon. Armies are created to kill people and destroy property not guard borders.

[Dave S]

If we all just keep sitting back staying calm this country will become another socialist state.

Most immigrants, legal or illegal work harder than the average American citizen and certainly harder than those citizens "living in the hood" who feel that government owes them a living. Many of these immigrants work harder for lower wages than the whinners complaining about open borders.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

It's an old story, but I remember Tancredo explicitly said he had enough votes to block the bill, and he said any bill with Amnest in it would be "Very Hard" to pass through the House.

Not hard enough for me. I think people are right to be angry at this news.

[LADY J]

"Ike did it in 1954 - Operation Wetback. We should do it again."

If it worked once - it could work again if someone had the backbone to implement it.

I have no problem with immigrants. But giving perks to illegals only makes the problem worse.

[Ajnin]

In order to document illegals, manpower and resources have to be diverted from stopping them from coming across the border. Immigration officers will have to investigate every case in order to determine if the alien fits the parameters of the supposed amnesty. Of course to make things easier, immigration officials could order inspectors to allow everybody to apply for amnesty regardless of any cut off date or residency requirements like they did during the last amnesty.

[chicagolady]

Thats the best idea anyone has had all day!