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AMNESTY CRISIS: Fight Tom Ridge's new plan
Numbers USA ^ | 12-10-03 | Roy Beck

Posted on 12/10/2003 1:28:20 PM PST by Klickitat

The country needs your faxes and phone calls immediately and steadily over the next few days.

Tom Ridge, the head of the new U.S. Department of Homeland Security, yesterday advocated legalizing (giving amnesty) to 8-12 million illegal aliens.

Click here to read the story titled: "Homeland security
chief endorses legalizing undocumented immigrants."
"Click for article"

This creates an immediate crisis that must be met with massive outcry -- like the outcry in August of 2001 that stopped Pres. Bush's July proposal for a massive amnesty for some 3.5 million illegal aliens from Mexico.

The most important thing is shoot this trial balloon down as fast as possible. Show the White House that this suggestion is outrageous and will be met with contempt from the majority of Americans.

More in a minute, but first the action.

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SEND FAXES NOW
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We just learned of this article in the last hour. Anne Manetas is at the computer writing text for faxes as I write this. Over the next two hours, you will start to see various faxes to Sec. Ridge, to the White House and to key congressional leaders who can put a stop to this nonsense.

Please send these faxes from:
"Send Fax"

If you go mid-afternoon today (Wednesday), they may not be up yet, but be sure to come back and send this evening.

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CALL SEC. RIDGE AND THE WHITE HOUSE......NOW....and for a week
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Your actions are the most powerful when they arrive immediately. I am sure that Sec. Ridge made his statement yesterday toin a fairly small audience in to a fairly inconsequential audience in Miami never dreaming that the whole nation would seem to be calling and faxing his office by 3:00 this afternoon. The faster the phones are ringing the better.

But if you are reading this after 6 p.m. EST Wednesday, please call Thursday. For that matter, some of you may want to call again on Friday and again next week. If you are reading this next week, your calls will still be great.

It will be important for Sec. Ridge and the White House to see that this is not a flash-in-the-pan protest but one that grows and continues over time.

Our Capitol Hill team will be working with key staffers over the next 24 hours to begin getting their bosses to send letters to Ridge asking him to recant. And those of you who are regular letter-to-the-editor writers will be called on to fire one to all newspapers that ran this story today.

What apparently is going on here is that the open-borders side is trying to regain some momentum after basically losing everything in Congress this year -- even though its PR machine repeatedly persuaded the NY Times and other commentators to declare that people of all sides were part of a growing, powerful movement that indicated some major amnesty would pass this year.

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THE PHONE NUMBERS
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Secretary Ridge, Secretary Tom
U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Washington, DC
20500
(202-282-8000)

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President Bush, President George W.
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, DC 20500
(202-456-1414)

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WHAT RIDGE SAID
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Your calls to both the White House and to Ridge's office should refer to Ridge's outrageous endorsement of amnesty as being a terrible signal from the Administration.

Obviously, it is important to give Ridge the ability to back down gracefully. Because of the confused, garbled thinking in his statement last night, he has room to do so.

The first good sign is that Ridge did not make his comment in a prepared statement or before an influential audience. It was in a Q and A. Second, his actual description of what legalization would look like is full of contradictory ideas. To quote the news story:

"A man who identified himself as Miguel Arroyo of Aventura asked Ridge whether he supported immigration legalization and whether he thought it would benefit national security."

Ridge answered:

"The bottom line is, as a country we have to come to grips with the presence of 8 to 12 million illegals, afford them some kind of legal stus some way, but also as a country decide what our immigration policy is and then enforce it.

The story said that Ridge "said he thinks the body politic is about ready to address the issue of the illegal immigrants, who he said contribute to communities and Social Security and pay taxes. He referred to a growing number of bills that would grant residency to some of those living here illegally. He said one of these, which would require all illegal immigrants to leave the country before applying for residency, is 'not workable.' "

Ridge went on to say:

"I'm not saying make them citizens, because they violated the law to get here. So you don't reward that type of conduct by turning over a citizenship certificate. You determine how you can legalize their presence, then, as a country, you make a decision that from this day forward, from this day forward, this is the process of entry, and if you violate that process of entry we have the resources to cope with it."

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YOUR PHONE MESSAGE
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You won't get much time to talk. Have one or two things that you absolutely want to convey and say them. Be prepared to say more if given the chance.

I'm sure that from reading Ridge's statement, you already have thought of a number of things you want to say. I'm going to offer several points for you to choose from if you don't have your own. These are not in any particular order.

1. This talk of legalization of lawbreakers from the top security man in the nation is an insult and a threat to safety of every federal official charged with protecting our borders. It gives illegals the incentive to do ANYTHING to get across and claim this prize. And it may insight millions of new people to storm the borders.

2. Ridge has thrown in the towel on law enforcement and says nothing can be done about illegal aliens. In fact, Congress has passed a major law each of the last two years to deal with this problem. These laws have not yet been implemented. When they are, they will make it far more difficult for illegal aliens to live in this country and begin to force many to move back home. Why is Ridge pre-emptorily undermining the very laws he is charged with carrying out.

3. Ridge's solution seems to be that you give all illegal aliens now amnesty but change our enforcement so that any person who comes illegally in the future will be dealt with. If you can deal with future illegals, why not just start dealing with the ones already here? In fact, the 1986 amnesty of 3 million illegals was said to be a one-time-only amnesty under the exact idea that Ridge is suggesting. There was supposed to never be another million illegals living in this country. Instead, another 8-12 million have come in hopes of another amnesty.

4. Ridge's statement sounds like two different people were controlling his mouth. One person sounded like a top law enforcement official who said, "As a country (we have to) decide what our immigration policy is and then enforce it." But somebody from the cheap-labor lobbyists or radical, leftist open-borders groups got Ridge's mouth to say that all the illegal aliens here right now should become LEGAL. The fact is that 80% of the people in this country and the majority of the U.S. Congress knows what immigration policy is -- if you don't have a legal right to be here, you should leave -- and they want the head of the Department of Homeland Security to enforce that policy.

5. Unless Sec. Ridge backs away from these statements immediately, there is no reason for Americans not to lose full faith and confidence that he has their security at heart. He is supposed to be the man above all others who will enforce our laws to protect our borders and protect us from terrorists, criminals and masses of uninvited labor that steals from the wages and jobs of the American people. In this speech, he sounds like the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Insecurity. He is a chief law UNenforcement officer. He is saying that somebody ought to enforce immigration laws someday, but not now. He is saying that he believes he is incapable of enforcing those immigration laws entrusted to him and that the only solution is to reward all the lawbreakers with legal status.

6. Sec. Ridge seems to suggest that illegal aliens should be made legal but not have the right to citizenship. Is he proposing a new legal status that allows people to work and live permanently in the U.S. but with never a chance at citizenship? What is he suggesting?

7. Last week the Department of Homeland Security announced it was killing the NSEERS program that caused tens of thousands of illegal aliens from terrorist-sponsoring countries to leave our country voluntarily rather than appear at DHS offices to register. Now, Ridge says that he actually wants all illegal aliens to stay permanently and be welcomed as contributors to the Social Security system. Has the DHS decided that it no longer will enforce immigration laws.

8. 18 million Americans cannot find a full-time job, yet Sec. Ridge wants to keep 8-12 million illegal-alien workers and their families in this country working. What does he have against unemployed and underemployed American workers. Why does he seem to be waging a war against American workers instead of against foreigners who illegally enter our country and threaten our livelihoods?


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To: Dante3
You sure are totally out of touch or you have some vested interest in illegal aliens or you just want to see your words on the Internet. Illegal aliens are pouring into this country from across the border, including terrorists. This has nothing to do with us being at war with Mexico -- I want the Canadian border also protected.

Agreed. Also, there's already a group admitting they're here to take over parts of the U.S. militarily, and return the land to Mexico. They're not hiding it, either.

121 posted on 12/11/2003 7:23:05 AM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: Pelham
President Eisenhower activated the National Guard to integrate the schools of Little Rock.

My facts are straight. Perhaps you need to review yours.

Eisenhower reluctantly activated the National Guard and otherwise did nothing to secure the rights, especially voting rights, of millions of his constituents. Constituents which had no political power of their own. Little money and no voice. Had Ike been more forthcoming in his support of the Constitution, Blacks would still be voting for the "Party of Lincoln" today.

Ike dropped the ball which LBJ picked up and ran in for a political Touchdown (voting rights act).

122 posted on 12/11/2003 8:14:00 AM PST by The Shootist
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To: concerned about politics
Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge told a Miami audience Tuesday that the country should legalize 8 to 12 million illegals living in the country.

123 posted on 12/11/2003 8:14:35 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: rmlew
segregation and Jim Crow were nothing compared to genocide.

Of course not. But then again we are not discussing genocide.

We have been talking about mass arrests and deportation of illegal aliens en masse. Both of which are also very Hitleresque.

124 posted on 12/11/2003 8:16:31 AM PST by The Shootist
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To: rmlew
How do you think that the US gained Texas and later 1/2 of Mexico!

By sending in General Winfield Scott and winning the Mexican War?

125 posted on 12/11/2003 8:18:03 AM PST by The Shootist
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To: Sabertooth
Ridge wouldn't say anything unless he is carrying the message for Bush and Rasputin(Rove).
Some one said don't criticise unless you have a plan.
We have a plan it is to apply for entry to yhe U.S.A. go through the process and become approved and then become a citizen.

It has worked this way for over 100 years and should not be changed because 8 million or 80 million illegally cross the border.
Just look at Europe and their immigration problems which come from an open border policy.
Just think about the countless billions of taxpayer dollars being sucked up by people who don't contribute.
126 posted on 12/11/2003 8:18:58 AM PST by chatham
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To: FITZ
LAPD's Most Wanted

Talk about revealing.

You look at that, and then hear President Bush's Homeland security chief say yesterday that he wants to legalize 12 *million* illegal aliens.

I'm telling you, this is down right scary sh*t.

127 posted on 12/11/2003 8:19:27 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Klickitat; gubamyster; FairOpinion; FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Action Alert!!!
128 posted on 12/11/2003 8:31:21 AM PST by JustPiper (Teach the Children to fight Liberalism ! They will be voting in 2008 !!!)
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To: Dante3
Illegal aliens are pouring into this country from across the border, including terrorists.

Exactly how many terrorists have come in through Mexico? What is your estimate. I can guarantee you that at least twenty times as many came in through JFK, Logan, and LAX airports. More have come in through Canada as well. We've caught terrorists driving across the border to the North. I've never heard of a self respecting terrorist who would waste time taking the scenic route through the dessert when they can fly in or drive across the border with impunity.

129 posted on 12/11/2003 8:33:08 AM PST by Dave S
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To: Area51
Shooting the bastards upon their setting foot in this country Illegally would do it for me!

Another member of the Hitler Youth.

It seems to me that civilized people do not react to what amounts to trespassing by shooting the intruder.

After taking into consideration all the information that I have gathered over the course of years about immigration, both illegal and legal, the seeming fact that the politicos, both Democrat and Republican, have no intention of enforcing our nation's laws in regards to immigration, and "The War on Terror" TM, the only logical thing to do with the illegals in this country is to grant them some type of status, concurrent with registration and identification, so that we know who and where they are.

Wishing that they were deported, or better yet, stopped from entering the country in the first place is just that, wishing. If wishes were fishes no one would starve. The government is not going to enforce the existing laws and there is nothing you, I, or anyone else can do about it. You are not going to convince 80% of the electorate, 1/2 of which cannot read, that it is ok to treat these immigrants any differently than they would like to be treated. If this is made into a BIG issue you can kiss the (sort of) Republican Congress and the RINO Presidency goodbye and say hello to Howard Dean, Tom Dashle and Nancy Pelosi, two of which are left of Hillary.

It's not worth it. Let the Suramericanos in and let them provide cheap labor. Give them a Social Security number and let them work their asses off and send money home to Mama and Papa. They will make better citizens than many who were born here.

130 posted on 12/11/2003 8:34:27 AM PST by The Shootist
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To: UCANSEE2
Ignoring the problem, or saying something like "deport them all" just shows a lack of understanding of the world, and the spirit of the American People. At least, the spirit I was taught and saw. That spirit seems mighty weak lately.

My parents never taught me that breaking the law is ok, or that those who break the law should be rewarded. What did your parents teach you about breaking the law?

131 posted on 12/11/2003 8:41:51 AM PST by usadave
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To: FITZ
They make much bigger money smuggling and dealing drugs --- and with the lack of education and skills they still wouldn't find good paying jobs.

That's all part of my point. We don't need a massive and growing criminal subculture inhabiting our neighborhoods, towns, and cities. They will have to be assimilated into the mainstream legally or they will assimilate themselves illegally at our expense. They will either become taxpayers or continue to cost us our tax money.
Remember, we are talking in the millions of people, not a few thousand. Amnesty and access to the mainstream is the steep price we all hve to pay for generations of open borders. It can not be undone.

132 posted on 12/11/2003 8:43:03 AM PST by Consort
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To: Dave S
sExactly how many terrorists have come in through Mexico?

Thats easy. THOUSANDS

Heres a few hundred. Pull your head out, and take a hard look at this before you go shooting off your mouth. And yes, these terrorist are no different than any other dangerous criminals. Wake up.

http://www.lapdonline.org/get_involved/most_wanted/0alpha_most_wanted/a_wanted_index.htm

133 posted on 12/11/2003 8:43:23 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: The Shootist
We cannot very well create a media spectacle of Federal goon squads gathering up suspected illegals and deporting them en masse, it would look to much like Hitler's Germany.

I don't remember Hitler's Germany gathering up suspected illegals and deporting them en masse.

134 posted on 12/11/2003 8:44:32 AM PST by usadave
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To: FITZ
LAPD's Most wanted

And how many of the criminals are in this country illegally? How many are not citizens? A foreign sounding name and a dark complexion does equate to a foreigner except in the eyes of Tancredo butt kissers. Seems the ones that I looked at had drivers licenses and CA didnt start giving them out until a month or so ago if they ever did.

135 posted on 12/11/2003 8:44:46 AM PST by Dave S
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To: Dave S
Most immigrants, legal or illegal work harder than the average American citizen

BS

136 posted on 12/11/2003 8:46:36 AM PST by usadave
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Amnesty will be a green light for all those who haven't come here yet. For every one that's legalized five more will come.
137 posted on 12/11/2003 8:46:37 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
sExactly how many terrorists have come in through Mexico?

Thats easy. THOUSANDS

So now you are cheapening the word terrorists by including run of the mill criminals. Hell using your standards, arent 40% of Californians criminals anyway, what difference does it make if you have a few more. With all the driving you have to do in California I cant imagine fewer than 40% having received a traffic violation making them criminals, perhaps of the lowest order, but criminals nevertheless. Maybe we ought to take away their gun rights, after all they are criminals. Jaywalk and turn in your 9mm.

138 posted on 12/11/2003 8:51:45 AM PST by Dave S
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To: UCANSEE2
ALL of THESE 'illegal' immigrants are HUMAN BEINGS who want the promise of America kept.

All of these illegal immigrants are LAWBREAKERS who have no respect for the laws of the United States. The promise of America would be kept if these people came to the United States LEGALLY.

139 posted on 12/11/2003 8:52:36 AM PST by usadave
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To: Klickitat
"Tom Ridge, the head of the new U.S. Department of Homeland Security, yesterday advocated legalizing (giving amnesty) to 8-12 million illegal aliens.


Should read Tom Ridge, the Meat Head of the ..."

Save your breath. And your time. Bush, Rove et al have sold out to the illegal aliens, the Islamofascists, and the leftists on the Courts.

Bad as things appear to be, they will get worse.

Bush II will be, like his idiot father, a one term President because he has forgotten his core constituency - real Americans, pro-Constitutionalists, Evangelicals, etc.
He never had, nor will he ever get the far left or even the middle of the road Democrats. To them he is an illegitimate president, branded, unfairly, by the leftist press as a Conservative.
140 posted on 12/11/2003 9:16:42 AM PST by ZULU
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