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White people, don't you dare go there
Jewish World Review ^ | Dec. 8, 2003 | Jimmie Walker

Posted on 12/08/2003 5:55:17 AM PST by SJackson

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To: KellyAdmirer

ouch!

21 posted on 12/08/2003 7:06:10 AM PST by Ulysses
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To: newgeezer
Yes I understand that, but it gets to be different when you don't allow any Card fan clubs to exist, only Cub fan clubs. That is one of the ways PC has allowed whites to be discriminated against. Now whites can't have any club of their own.

This PC thing is reminding me of the gay marriage thing for some reason.

22 posted on 12/08/2003 7:06:45 AM PST by biblewonk (I must answer all bible questions.)
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To: webstersII
Wrong analogy. The issue is that they can call other races (esp. whites) any names they want to and that's not considered racist. Ever seen a hate crime where it was a minority crime against a white person? It's a double standard, that's the issue.

Oh, really? Every example in the article above -- the section here, that is; since the only good reason not to post JWR it in its entirety is that the point is already made, I'll go on what's here -- is either black-on-black (which, like family, gets a pass), or white-on-black (which doesn't). If Seau isn't black, it's still friend-on-friend, which also gets a pass (except, perhaps, from the PC crowd, if it's white-on-black, but I digress).

Therefore, I'll stand by my analogy. If there had been mentioned a case of black-on-white which got a pass, you'd have a point. But, in regard to this article, it doesn't apply. Just like my analogy, there is no unacceptable double standard in the cases mentioned here.

Thus, if the author was trying to make a point of an unacceptable double standard with this article, he should have done so in the first few paragraphs and, in my opinion, he failed.

23 posted on 12/08/2003 7:08:19 AM PST by newgeezer (I won $5 on the radio this AM because I knew Alec Baldwin is a leftist 'actor.')
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To: SJackson
As our society becomes more and more racially splintered,

The first line of the whole article was incorrect. Despite all the propaganda to the contrary, our society is slowly but surely becoming less splintered (racially). Not fast enough, but going in the right direction.

24 posted on 12/08/2003 7:12:45 AM PST by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
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To: newgeezer
Surely this article is not the first you have heard of this issue?
25 posted on 12/08/2003 7:15:52 AM PST by Joshh86
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To: Joshh86
Surely this article is not the first you have heard of this issue?

{sigh} If I haven't yet made myself clear, I was critiquing this article, not the broader issue.

26 posted on 12/08/2003 7:19:20 AM PST by newgeezer (We learn by trail and errror. ;-)
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To: newgeezer
What fantasyland do you live in? Black-on-White almost always "gets a pass".
27 posted on 12/08/2003 7:21:08 AM PST by jsraggmann
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To: newgeezer
I can call my sister a pig. But, if you try it, I'll kick yo' az.

This principle, while applied to most classes and associations of people, does not apply if the statement arises from a white individual.

28 posted on 12/08/2003 7:21:17 AM PST by Thommas
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To: dixie sass
I agree
29 posted on 12/08/2003 7:22:01 AM PST by cyborg (right wing wacko-american)
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To: jsraggmann
What fantasyland do you live in? Black-on-White almost always "gets a pass".

"Fantasyland"? Where did I say it doesn't get a pass? (Certainly not in my post to which you replied.) The real question here is, why didn't the author cite an example of it? If he had, his article would have made a valid point about an unacceptable double standard.

One last time, folks. My point from the beginning was that this article fails to make a valid point. We all know the double standard exists. But, this article doesn't show it.

Sheesh. Must be a Monday morning thing.

30 posted on 12/08/2003 7:37:47 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: SJackson
At the risk of provoking a huge flame war, there IS a salient point that no one ever brings to the fore.

The slaves that wound up in America originated in Africa - where they were the losers, the strategically weaker of the tribal warriors. The winners were the slave masters, whose tribes are still alive and still enslaving their inferiors in Africa. None of the winners were on the slave ships as cargo, only the defeated. Those people are the foundation of much of Black America as it is today. Not all, of course, but much of it.

There are other segments of Black society in America founded of emigres from some of the more successful tribes - and those Blacks are the ones who regularly achieve great success in business and intellectual fields, such as Dr. Walter Williams and the inestimable Thomas Sowell. But the other segments, directly descended from those tribes that were so inferior as to allow themselves to be subjugated and shipped here as chattels - those are the ones with little hope other than to once again exist as chattels of the government. They are useful as benign slugs in government jobs and reliable, mindless voters. A minor element descended from the old tribes persists in criminal pursuits without regard for consequence - a distinct remnant of the inferior intellect that was partially responsible for the tribes' original subjugation into slavery in the first place.

The tribes of old have simply morphed into classes and gangs of today. And the politically-correct atmosphere of ignoring the problem is only deepening it.

Michael

31 posted on 12/08/2003 7:43:08 AM PST by Wright is right! (Never get excited about ANYTHING by the way it looks from behind.)
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To: SJackson
Yet a few years ago, Fuzzy Zoeller, a white pro golfer, was asked what he thought Black Pro Golfer Tiger Woods was going to serve at the Masters dinner, Zoeller replied, "Chicken, watermelon, or whatever those people eat."

The foods cited were chicken and collard greens. The article's author isn't even correct about a simple detail of fact.

32 posted on 12/08/2003 7:47:31 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: SJackson
When Reggie White made a stand against the sodomite agenda he lost millions....
Lost soup commercials lost sports caster slots etc etc...
He took a stand and it cost him millions of dollars..
He doesnt regret one lost dime...
He said obediance to God was more important to him...
33 posted on 12/08/2003 7:48:02 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: SJackson
I had always thought that slaves were not allowed to read or write. are the slave letters real ? where were these letters unearthed from? courious minds and all......
34 posted on 12/08/2003 7:57:22 AM PST by suzyq5558 (news anchor's, national bozo's on view for all to gaze at with eye-popping disgust)
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To: SJackson
Yet Chicago Cubs manager Dusty Baker, who happens to be Black, was asked about his players playing in the extreme heat. He said: " That is no problem for my players, because that's what we were brought over here for, wasn't it?"

The Negroid racial type is specially designed for hot weather, maximizing surface area wherever possible. Combine that with the profound natural selection that occurred during the slave transports and you've got a physically hardy group of people who can withstand high temperatures. I think, however, that with the interbreeding that's been going on for the past several hundred years (especially in the last thirty) that advantage will soon disappear.

35 posted on 12/08/2003 8:17:23 AM PST by Agnes Heep
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To: dixie sass
Is not the race question in this country similar the religous question in the Mid East? People in looking to justify their beliefs concerning Israel or the Palestinians work their way through history back to the bible or earlier and in this country rabble rousers go back to slavery or the slave trade in Africa. In economics there is the theory of sunk costs which teaches us to forget our prior investments and look to the future for the most efficient allocation of our capital in the future. While history should teach us not to repeat our past mistakes, history, which cannot be repealed, should not be the basis for moving forward.
36 posted on 12/08/2003 8:22:08 AM PST by monocle
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To: Ramcat
"She May Be White But She's Funky".


Did you ever hear "Help I'm White and I Can't Get Down"?
37 posted on 12/08/2003 10:05:45 AM PST by WKB (3!~ Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations? (George Carlin))
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To: newgeezer
"What fantasyland do you live in? Black-on-White almost always "gets a pass".
"Fantasyland"? Where did I say it doesn't get a pass? (Certainly not in my post to which you replied.) The real question here is, why didn't the author cite an example of it? If he had, his article would have made a valid point about an unacceptable double standard.

One last time, folks. My point from the beginning was that this article fails to make a valid point. But, this article doesn't show it.

Sheesh. Must be a Monday morning thing."
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Somehow this clarifies your position i didn't think about the article i was ready to move on to the issue not critique the writer, sorry man, always cover your butt cuz if you dont do it sooner you will have to do it later

38 posted on 12/08/2003 11:13:39 AM PST by Joshh86
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To: newgeezer
Thus, if the author was trying to make a point of an unacceptable double standard with this article, he should have done so in the first few paragraphs and, in my opinion, he failed.

The article mentioned several instances of double standards, although the Sister Souljah incidents about wanting to kill whites aren't even mentioned (Sistah Souljah speech)

Here's some of the article that you didn't read (oh, BTW, your analogy is still wrong):

Gambler Jimmy " The Greek" said Blacks were better athletes because they were bred to be that way by their slave owners. He was promptly fired.

Trent Lott said the country would have been much better off if known segregationist Strom Thumond had been elected President in 1948. There was a national outcry and he was soon stripped of his Majority Chairmanship, lost a number of his other privileges, and, of course, was forced to make a public apology.

Yet Black Muslin leader Louis Farrakhan, calls Caucasian people the "White Devil". Throughout the world there are Muslims of all colors, as Malcolm X describes in the Alex Haley bio. But in America, we have a group called the "Black Muslims."

And when presidential candidate Howard Dean said he wanted to represent guys who drive pick-up trucks with Confederate flags on them, he was called arrogant and some have called him a racist.

39 posted on 12/08/2003 1:51:59 PM PST by webstersII
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40 posted on 12/08/2003 1:54:53 PM PST by mhking
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