Putin to assume the power of a Tsar

Telegraph ^ | December 12 2003 | Julius Strauss

[RussianConservative]

This would give Mr Putin's party and its allies about 58 per cent of the vote and return Russia to an era of single-party dominance after 12 years of vibrant, if corrupt, democracy.

So union of several parties in voting block is now single party rule? What that make hypocrit limies? Labor, Communists and land Nazi Greens?

[RussianConservative]

The Communists, traditionally the country's largest parliamentary party, have been subjected to weeks of vicious attack on national and local television. The result has been that United Russia has surged ahead of them in recent weeks after level-pegging in the autumn.

Oh and I think that election time to candy coat short coming of opponent, especially prestine Western idol like Communists...how EU and Western Press want to be so...new export market for Russia, not brides but communists. In hypocrit West need to drive: adopt a geriatric Communist. HOpe EU and Britian get full flavor of what asked for.

[cynicom]

Read history. Fact, Russians lived under communism for 70 years. They were not men enough to throw off the yoke. That had to come from outside.

[Walkingfeather]

because they need it....they need the iron fist to have something to bitch about, write depressing poetry about, and generally have someone else to blame for thier inability to take responsibility for their own lives.
Remember there is comfort in familiarity,whether you are talking about mcDolnald hamburgers, a husband that beats you, or being oppressed. It is not what is good for us that is atractive but what is familar. For most people the unknown is chaos and something to flee. So if you already have coping mechanisms built into how to be ruled or oppressed you don't have to think about things you just deal with it subconsciously. Thus what is familar is attactive. Just like that girl going back to the bad boyfriend over and over.

[cynicom]

Amen..Our friend Ivan here on the thread is a prime example.

[blanknoone]

I did say it was alarmist...what is your take on the election? Is there a thread here with an article that fairly describes your take on the election?

[Kozak]

He doesn't believe Russians had much to do with the Soviet Union. All fault of Georgians and Ukrainians. Russians just innocent bystanders.

[RussianConservative]

Excuse me? You read history. I not see NATO or US troops in Russian city streets when Communists fall. I see US/NATO CIA predict Communist healthy and powerful. Also, maybe you miss Civil War and murder of 30 million dicidents...but then you safe and happy on other side of world, with out such problem...easy to talk.

[RussianConservative]

Look under breaking news of FR. Russian elections, or look search Russia.

[RussianConservative]

Oh, great denier of history back...you still here to tell all that Krushchov, Andropov, Stalin, Bera all Russian fault? You here to deny Cossaks of Ukraine did pogroms? Oh, you forgot to call me anti-semite, anti-this, anti-that...shoot for it.

[RussianConservative]

Or does it piss you off, Russia more conservative then US?

[RussianConservative]

Ahh, yes, Russians forget to thank you for marching down Russian street to get rid of communists...how to miss all pretty uniforms? So while trying hard to find new reason to hate Russia: damn Russians have to many communists (communists loose). Damn Russians to many corrupt businessmen (oligarchs taken to a law). Damn Russians now to conservative (oh, you not say it that way, but jealousy there) Let see which way US go in next election...maybe you can be just like EU socialists so often loved. Ban partial birth murder yet or just Christianity?

[RussianConservative]

And you still avoid answer, so you for Communist revolution over throw elected Russian conservatives or not? Your post seem intent you call for revolution. Why you avoid make stance?

[DannyTN]

"This is a little alarmist"

Yeah, I'm not sure how much. Just because Putin's party one the elections doesn't necessarily mean democracy is dead in Russia.

The elimination of a free press might very well mean that democracy is dead in Russia. I'm not really sure how complete that is though.

I'm sure there are democrats that feel like democracy is over in the US because the Republicans one. I've heard them refer to Bush as a little dictator. Doesn't mean democracy has been harmed, just means they are sore losers.

[Walkingfeather]

No offense ... this is a cultural question not political. If you are in this country there is a reason you are. I think you can find quite a stark contrast between the too cultures, that is the point I was making.

[cynicom]

Russian

You are looking for shadows where none exist my friend. No one is proposing anything.

[Kozak]

There's a difference between "conservative" and "authoritarian" or "fascist". But you are incapable of the distinction. Guess I shouldn't expect much as you never have the privilege of being a citizen in a free Republic.

Also you lie. I never denied Ukrainian's having some responsibility for actions in past regarding pogroms, or that some Ukrainians were Soviet Communists, or that current government is corrupt and incompetent.

You however still refuse to acknowledge any Russian responsibility for Tsarist evils, or Soviet evils or current stealth KGB government.

[Luke21]

This is written like something out of Time or Newspeak. The commies are the good guys?

[RussianConservative]

I never accept evils of Soviets? Hahah, who lie now? Sure I accept reality of evil of Soviet, they excute my great grand father and 5 brothes. They take our lands and monies. But to blame Lenin, Stalin, Bera, Krushchov on Russians as you do, is lieing. You also not take responsability for numerous Ukrainian pogroms, while call Russians anti-semite...who commit most pogroms, since most in Ukraine?

That you miss communist era of Soviet Union, for what ever reason, is obvious...it give you purpose in life? Go play with conspiracy shadow KGB Politburo Russian under every bed theory in own little world.

[RussianConservative]

I never denied Ukrainian's having some responsibility for actions

Where? You not respond when I put up evidence...before that you all to busy in calling Russians anti-semites.