Posted on 12/05/2003 6:16:40 PM PST by yonif
Edited on 05/07/2004 9:33:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
A female soldier from Fort Lewis, who says she was raped in Kuwait and complained of being isolated in the attack's aftermath, has since tried to commit suicide, her mother said Thursday. Barbara Wharton, of Lancaster County, Pa., said her 23-year-old daughter tried to commit suicide Wednesday night by swallowing pills. She said her daughter sought help after the attempt.
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The exception MIGHT be the MP's or an errant truck platoon.....like Jessica Lynch, coming under enemy fire of a direct nature.
I don't know if anything has changed in the past 10 years but when I was in, the CEWI Bn had assets tasked to support each brigade in the division.
Depending on your responsibility within these platoons you could be anywhere from the brigade rear to the FEBA.
As an example of how far forward we normally were, just for giggles my two-man team used to go capture LRPs at the NTC. Rules of engagement said they couldn't fight and most were glad to go back to the rear.
My WIFE, who had another two-man team, went with me on a few rotations. Probably 30% - 40% of the personnel in the forward deployed assets of my unit were female.
Funny thing is that the GSR folks were not allowed to be female, probably due to their given position on the battlefield. But more often than not we'd end-up to their front!
Hmmm?
Keep in mind that the military is not commenting on it, and all we know seems to be coming from the mother, and she's really not giving a lot of information. Maybe that's why the story doesn't make a lot of sense. After she was hit in the back of the head, and regained consciousness, was she still outside, where anybody could have happened by and seen what was going on, or was she inside somewhere? Where did he take her? Where did she wake up? How long did the episode last? Did the attack occur at night, and if so, how well lit was the area? Approximately what time did the attack occur, and how many people were likely to be in the area at the time? Do people who are knocked unconcious, then briefly regain conciousness before blacking out again remember a lot of details in between? There's a lot of information that is not being given in this story.
The soldier, who has not been identified to protect her privacy, alleges she was raped late last week near the showers at Camp Udairi.
Hey you idiots, you identify the mother and home town, and you don't think that anyone can figure out who the daughter is? Sheesh.
and so she is not to be believed at this stage.
since she's an American Soldier, let us give her the benefit of the doubt that she indeed is telling the truth, let's take her at her word as a U.S. Soldier, rather than positing "could be's" that amount to meaningless speculation.
be HONEST: were her account that an iraqi did this to her, freerepub would be buried in posts unqualifiedly believing her story, because it buttresses support for continuing the war against these brown-skinned sub-humans.
Rapists often beat their victims far more than is strictly necessary. More than a few serial rapists have been known to bind their victims. Read something by John Douglas. You'll learn way more than you can stomach about rapists and their MOs. Hell, just read a newspaper.
It's a newspaper article, not a deposition. I wouldn't advise basing an assumption on it, like so many here have already done.
And your reason and motive for this statement is....?
Silly ME! I got off active duty in 1984 and (20 years ago) and out of the reserves in 1994 (10 years ago). Everything (even and maybe especially institutions that safeguard our freedoms) EVOLVES to reflect the times. Just because it wasn't done when I was in the military, doesn't mean it's not done now. Just as at one time there were no (or very few) black soldiers....and then later they were kept segregated into their own units.....
Racial integration of the battlefield is a good thing, providing strength and unity. Gender integration will probably not have much effect on our warfighting capabilities. However, it will affect women in exactly this manner. Therefore when a woman voluntarily places herself in harms way and then fails to safeguard herself to prevent such atrocities....I am afraid I shall not feel much sympathy for that situation. This is going to force me into yet another modification of my world view. Everything evolves. ~sigh~
Other possibilities coming to mind are:
- An interupted S&M session
- An S&M session in which she was tricked. I recall laughing my butt off while on a trip to South Florida and reading in the local paper of some gay guy who met two other gay guys who were reportedly photographers and wanted to do a shoot for some gay mag. They went out on the weekend to some empty construction site and things progressed well with the photo shoot until he realized that after having handcuffed him to a peice of machinery, sodomized him, written obscene things on his nude body and urinated on him, the photographers took their cameras and left him handcuffed and chained to the peice of equipment. He spent the night chained to the equipment and was found the next morning by construction workers arriving at the jobsite.
- Finally, first onset of mental illness, is very common in her age group. Military gets a bad rap for these ticking genetic time bombs.
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