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Our Place in the World: Road map leads to darkness ("I am ashamed to be a Muslim"
Seattle PI ^ | 11/14//03 | RUSLAN TOKHCHUKOV

Posted on 12/05/2003 12:48:39 PM PST by veronica

I am ashamed to be a Muslim ... again. I am originally from a Muslim minority in Russia and I was never quite as ashamed of the Soviet Union, which I left as an anti-Communist emigrant long ago, as I am of the Muslim world that makes even the USSR look free and civilized.

Total gender apartheid, treating women worse than animals, tyranny, oppression, intolerance of any kind of free expression and on and on. The Muslim world is the world of no good news. And now, there's yet another sickening, albeit not surprising, headline: "Jews rule the world by proxy, says Malay leader" (P-I, Oct. 17).

Mahathir Mohamad, the Malaysian prime minister, speaking before a gathering of the world's Islamic leaders, invoked the same old, tired explanation of the Muslims' many ills and ailments: the Jewish conspiracy.

Judging by the many historical references he included in his speech, Mohamad read some history but he proved to be absolutely incapable of learning history's lessons. He alluded to Islam's glorious past when the Muslim world thrived economically and culturally and shone in science, medicine and education while the West was backward and savage, wallowing in the misery, famines and plagues of the Dark Ages.

True, but the roles have since reversed. It is the Muslim world in the Dark Ages now, as one can judge by Mohamad's speech and by his audience's reaction to it. The leaders of 57 Muslim countries greeted this hate tirade with a standing ovation and praised it as "a good road map." How pathetic.

A road map where? Deeper into darkness? During the Seven Golden Centuries of Islam, the Muslim world was tolerant of the Jews and provided a haven for hundreds of thousands fleeing the savage persecution in Europe -- a fact Mohamad acknowledged. But now it is just the opposite.

Mohamad noted that the West surged ahead of the Muslims during the Industrial Revolution. But who led this revolution? The English and the Dutch, the only ones in Western Europe who were tolerant to their Jewish communities.

On the other end of the spectrum was the Inquisition nation of Spain, which was totally bypassed by the Industrial Age, just like the Arabs. It was the only country in Europe that had completely "cleansed" itself of Jews. This put the "purified" Spaniards on a 400-year-long downslide into ever-greater corruption, backwardness, poverty and misery. Finally, after a series of shattering military blows from Anglos, both British and American, the Spanish Empire collapsed like a rotten shack.

No, Mohamad, the Jews do not "take over" the most powerful countries in the world. They help those countries that welcome them to become powerful and successful.

One hundred years ago, 1 million Jews fled from Tsarist Russia to the United States after a wave of pogrom atrocities. Russia's loss was the United States' gain. The Russian Empire had violently collapsed in just a decade and the United States, which entered the 20th century as a third-rate power, emerged from it as the world's unchallenged superpower.

Let's ponder the fate of all once-powerful enemies of the Jewish people: the Pharaohs of Egypt, the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, the Inquisitor Spain, the Russian Tsarist Empire, the Nazi Reich. Did any one of them not suffer a brutal end?

In the Christians' Bible, there's a part about God cursing those who curse the Jewish people and the entire world history seems to confirm it. Now, whether you are Christian or not, whether you are religious or not, whether you call it God's law or the law of history, you have to agree that not one nation that persecuted Jews had escaped very bad consequences. I don't think this law has an exception for the Arabs or any other Muslims.

This is what we the Umma (the world Muslim community) should pause to think about. Only then might we be able to find our way out of darkness. Otherwise, I am afraid, the Muslim world will be beyond redemption.

Ruslan Tokhchukov lives in Redmond.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ageofliberty; islam; jews; mahathir
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To: Stopislamnow
Completely correct!! They stole every thing good from others and murdered non-islamic victims where ever they went. THEY STILL DO!

I do not buy any of that "moderate muslim" garbage. That is some politian's PIPE DREAM/PUFFERY!

"Moderate" islam is the TROJAN horse of the radicals! Why, We even have one of their plants right here on this thread.

Time will come when the "moderates" will go right along with their fellow muslims NO MATTER that the radicals want to do to the non-islamic peoples of this world.

Afterall.... they ALL want an totally muslim world. ALL OF THEM WANT THAT... or they are not considered to be true muslims.

ALL of them will follow their mad mo to the end of the world.

Believe IT!! They want us non-muslims dead or enslaved.

41 posted on 12/06/2003 8:41:02 AM PST by Lion in Winter
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To: skull stomper
You know it!! You speak the TRUTH!!
42 posted on 12/06/2003 8:42:51 AM PST by Lion in Winter
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To: Blood of Tyrants
They weren't actively and widely persecuted by Muslims until fairly recently.

Actually, under dhimmi laws muslims are supposed to demean Jews as mo said they were to be kept down for violating their covenant with god. They have always been persecuted by Muslims.
48 posted on 12/07/2003 2:38:43 PM PST by BabsC
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To: skull stomper
you sound like a fascist
49 posted on 12/07/2003 2:58:54 PM PST by icydanger
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To: andak01
This is the premise, and the proof is a lot of quotes from Ayatollah Komeini. In case you were not aware, Islam have too very distinct branches, Shiite and Sunni.

The Sunni comprise around 85% of the world's Muslim population or over one billion people. Even among the Shiites there are many branches that do not accept the Ayatollahs of Iran as the prime authority, and even among those, I am sure that many thought of Ayatollah Khomeini as the monster he was.

Are you trying to tell us that one branch of islam is better than the other????? They are both completely evil. It just depends on the year which is in the news more for terrorist activities, murder, rape, enslavement and all of the other so wonderful themes of islamic paradises.

50 posted on 12/07/2003 3:03:55 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: icydanger
you sound like a fascist

I thought he was waving the "Don't tread on me" flag.

51 posted on 12/07/2003 3:10:20 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron
Cruelty is not specific to Islam , ^
were Hitler, and many many others Muslims?
52 posted on 12/07/2003 3:13:55 PM PST by icydanger
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To: Lady Heron
EXACTLY: DONT
53 posted on 12/07/2003 3:14:41 PM PST by icydanger
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To: icydanger
Cruelty is not specific to Islam ,

So true. Hate and cruelty come in many forms and from many monsters. Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot(sp), canabals, satanist, communist, tyrants, despots, etc. all deserve the disgust they get when being discussed. Islam deserves the same disgust,after a through research, from its treatment of women, the socities it creates, to its call to murder non-muslims and everything in-between.

54 posted on 12/07/2003 3:39:18 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: andak01
Hmmm...you might want to do some more research. Almost all of the people you say were Christians were not, they were part of cults. I will not tell you which, you would learn more by doing the research yourself.

Christianity (Protstant and Catholic) does not support in any way terrorism or murder of non-Christians unlike islam (which does in all forms). The one group which I have never understood the IRA, has its actions constantly condemened in the Christian community, so do the group that reacts violently to the IRA.

56 posted on 12/08/2003 1:41:10 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: andak01
YOU know your reasoning sounds good ,the only thing wrong with it ,is that just about all the countries that are ruled by the islams are places that NO AMERICAN WOMAN WANTS TO LIVE and raise her little girls, and you might be here peacefully talking about and defending your religion, but I would die before I would submit myself to your beliefs, everywhere your religion goes it brings hate and discontent, the poor people that live in those GOD forsaken countries are the results of your peaceful religion.
58 posted on 12/09/2003 7:44:03 AM PST by douglas1
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