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Opposite poles over porn (Ron Jeremy and author Susan Cole debate on campus)
The (University of Maryland) Diamondback ^ | Dec 4, 2003 | Ally Burguieres and Sam Sessa

Posted on 12/05/2003 9:57:53 AM PST by presidio9

In the end, it was the hedgehog vs. the lesbian.

Porn king Ron Jeremy wasn't a master orator, but his name alone carried about the students in last night's 90-minute debate against author Susan Cole. Jeremy didn't have to speak - he had already won.

The debaters made short opening remarks and launched into questions from responsive audience members, who booed, screamed, laughed and jeered. About 825 students packed the Stamp Student Union's Colony Ballroom, and Student Entertainment Events security had to turn away about 200 students at the door, said Joi Freeman, SEE public relations coordinator.

Jessica Werner, a senior veterinary medicine major, got to the Student Union at 2 p.m. for the 7:30 p.m. event. To pass the time, she made signs that read, "I Love Ron," and "Porn Rules."

"I thought there were going to be tons of people," she said. "I fantasize about him."

Ron Jeremy Hyatt, aka Ron Jeremy, fired off his remarks, often stumbling over the speed of his words, and leaned against the wall with his hands crossed during some of Cole's remarks. He was tired. It was all the sex, he joked. But from his stance, you could tell he is fighting a battle he has wonover and over again.

"We just want to be left alone," he said. "It's just junk entertainment. It's for entertainment. That's all it is."

About 26 years ago, his girlfriend (at the time) submitted his picture to Playgirl.

Somewhere around 1,800 adult films and 3,000-4,000 women later, Jeremy has a bit more baggage. He is unmarried, and finds little time for romance.

"That's the one drawback of porn - it's hard to keep a serious relationship because no one will take you seriously," he said. "But you know, you gotta know that on the way in, it's not a surprise. I mean, how many guys can go on the road and be rock and roll stars and expect that a girl's always gonna be there when you get home?"

But porn star status wasn't always Jeremy's dream. Porn was Plan C - a fallback from acting, and if that failed, teaching.

"I got a degree in theater, then as a safety got a bachelor's in education and a master's in special ed, just in case I failed as an actor," he said. "And then I quit school to do some theater, and saw the job market was horrendous. Then I went over to porn."

Jeremy's own background contrasted with Cole's assertion that porn was a graveyard for ex-cons and victims of abuse, who perpetuate the conditions they suffered through as children.

The audience took Cole's remarks with a grain of salt, often interrupting her speeches to make noisy comments on her arguments.

"My 15-year-old daughter is sexually active (audience claps), who is having sex in our house probably as we speak (more claps)," she said. "I come from Canada (boos). Was that [response] about us not sending troops to Iraq? (more boos) Is it about how we can smoke pot in Toronto? (claps, screams).

Cole, who openly admitted to being a lesbian, is the author of Pornography and the Sex Crisis and tours the country with Jeremy in debate forums.

The audience peppered Cole with serious questions, but directed most of its attention to Jeremy, asking him more about his experiences in the industry and less about his views on the current state of porn.

"We crack jokes, we f---, it's pretty simple." Jeremy later said in response to a male student's question: "How many times have I had sex in one day? I don't know. Ask your mom."

About an hour into the show, questions lost their focus, and the debate became less issue-oriented, prompting students to begin trickling out of the ballroom. After the show, fans lined up for Jeremy's signature, holding condoms, copies of The Cow Nipple, The Diamondback, Jeremy's new dvd, and dollar bills.

Freshman Carrie Fisher, a biology major, took off her bra for Jeremy to sign.

"I thought it was easier than lifting up my shirt," she said.

Backstage, Jeremy collected his things into a tote bag featuring the Powder-Puff girls, and double-knotted the handles. He said he wanted to reach a new plateau in the entertainment world - one where he didn't have to fall back on his penis - but "if that doesn't work out, I'll keep on f----ing."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: hedgehog; porn; ronjermey; umd
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1 posted on 12/05/2003 9:57:54 AM PST by presidio9
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2 posted on 12/05/2003 9:58:34 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
Well, I for one just don't understand it. He's not even good-looking. What's he got that I...oh. That. Never mind.
3 posted on 12/05/2003 10:01:00 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
Never mind.

Why do they call you Billthedrill?

4 posted on 12/05/2003 10:02:28 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
It's a bad industry, IMO. But I just find it impossible to dislike Ron Jeremy.
5 posted on 12/05/2003 10:05:49 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: presidio9
The anti-porn activists are a strange alliance of radical man-hating feminist lesbians and gay-hating religious fundamentalists
I'd love to be at one of their strategy meetings
6 posted on 12/05/2003 10:07:27 AM PST by WackyKat
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To: ClearCase_guy
I just find it impossible to dislike Ron Jeremy.

Lots of people look pretty good standing next to Susan Cole.

7 posted on 12/05/2003 10:09:10 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I think it is because most people appreciate the honest, even if they don't agree with the individual.

There is a difference between disagreeing and being disagreeable.

I did have a football coach who looked like Ron Jeremy and several of my buddies and I would jeer him by calling him "Ron Jeremy". His retort (in the most nasally, Bronx accident you can think of), "I'm BIGGAH' than Ron Jeremy!"

8 posted on 12/05/2003 10:10:51 AM PST by mattdono (Big Arnie: "Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags.")
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To: presidio9
One thing about Ron is he got to "do" many of the girls of my dreams when I was in my teens.
Nikki Charm, Amber Lynn, among many of the hotties serviced by the hedgehog
9 posted on 12/05/2003 10:12:23 AM PST by Moleman
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To: presidio9
Ron Jeremy BUMP
10 posted on 12/05/2003 10:12:48 AM PST by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: presidio9
What a fine intellectually stimulating debate to bring to a
university....PUKEMAO!
11 posted on 12/05/2003 10:15:16 AM PST by international american
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To: Ron Jeremy
Ping!
12 posted on 12/05/2003 10:18:39 AM PST by Constitution Day (Please do not emanate into the penumbra.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Ron Jeremy's a great guy. He's a hero to all the ugly fat asses who can only dream about banging thousands of chicks.
13 posted on 12/05/2003 10:21:58 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: presidio9
Susan Cole is a lesbian who has raised a sexually active 15 year old girl? What exactly is her complaint about pornography? She sounds like a sexual revolutionary to me.
14 posted on 12/05/2003 10:28:38 AM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
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To: mattdono
Reminds me of a story I heard about a Hollywood party where Milton Berle and Forrest Tucker were discussing which among them had the larger appendage. They decided to go into a private room and settle the argument. Milton turned to an acquantance and said "I'm only going to take out enough to win."

I always thought that was a funny story.

15 posted on 12/05/2003 10:32:25 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: presidio9
They are all having their little fun in the short wink of an eye more commonly known as our short human lives while on this planet spinning in space.

But sadly, there are some "surprises" I believe waiting on the other side for many.

Well,really, I don't wish it on them or anyone for that matter but what can you say?

People pretty much seal their own fate in the next life what with free human will in this life.

16 posted on 12/05/2003 10:49:30 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: presidio9
"Lots of people look pretty good standing next to Susan Cole."

You got that right!

17 posted on 12/05/2003 10:51:19 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: windcliff
Marital aids, bump.
18 posted on 12/05/2003 10:53:19 AM PST by onedoug
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To: WackyKat
Here's a prediction: the disappearance of the Minnesota co-ed will be tied to the use of violent pornography by the perpetrator.

Harmless?

19 posted on 12/05/2003 11:02:56 AM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
pretty much... especially the ones I see on Playboy channel. Porn pretty much exists for men fantasizing about girls they'll never in a million years have.
20 posted on 12/05/2003 11:05:47 AM PST by cyborg (mutt-american)
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