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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates)
Various | December 4, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 12/04/2003 3:31:09 PM PST by sweetliberty

(Thread 11)
Link back to thread 10 (Nov. 24-30)

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Contained in Thread 10:

Who can be a guardian, 1993 letter from Bob Schindler to Michael Schiavo, Palm beach Post editorial and FReeper response, T'wit's song about Schiavo and Felos, transcript of Lee Webb's (CBN) interview with Kate Adamson, partial timeline of Terri's case, the story of Martin and Anne Shapiro and the report on Terri's birthday party,

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

You will notice that this thread is not specifically dated. That is because we are just going to keep this one going until we have need of another one.

A reminder: please do not post personal information on the public forum. We have lots of folks on scene down in Florida and we don't want them having any problems with the death squad.

INDEX OF TERRI THREADS ON FR

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Latest threads on Terri's Case:

As Terri Schiavo turns 40 next week, her loved ones fight for her life

Suspicious Circumstances, the Strange Case of Terri Schiavo

Schiavo asks Pinellas judge to rule without trial

Michael Schiavo tries to block Gov. Bush

Michael Schiavo Again Seeks to Block New Information About Terri

Why Was Terri Denied Holy Communion?

Terri Schiavo's 40th birthday Wednesday

Florida's Bush gets report on Schiavo

Participate in Terri Schiavo's Birthday, December 3, With prayer, Mass Intentions, Cards and Notes

FR Birthday Card: Greetings, Prayers for Terri Schindler-Schiavo

New Guardian Urged for Terri Schiavo, More Evaluation of Her Condition Needed

The Guardian Speaks: Terri Schiavo's guardian files his report; there's bad news and good news.

Terri Schiavo's Family Celebrates Her 40th Birthday, Hundreds Send Cards

Changes Proposed In Right-To-Die Laws - Your help is needed NOW in Florida!

The Case of Terri Schiavo: The Human Rorschach Test



TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; cultureofdeath; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; freep; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; nocerebralcortex; reallifeghouls; righttolife; schiavo; schiavothread; schindler; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler; terrisfight; wolfson
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To: msmagoo; All
Happy New Years and thanks for everything you've been doing to help from me to you. It takes so many to fight evil, whether it's in Pinellas County, in D.C. or in the middle east. There's a lot of bad people out there but thanks to all the good guys.
321 posted on 12/31/2003 3:58:26 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org freeper site)
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To: floriduh voter
Happy New Year to you. Wishing this will be a much better year for Terri.
322 posted on 12/31/2003 4:06:15 PM PST by Dante3
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To: floriduh voter
That's right -- good to know you, too!

Hoping we all have a great start to the new year -- including Terri and her family.
323 posted on 12/31/2003 4:08:47 PM PST by cyn (cynic#456,789)
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To: Dante3; cyn
The kids in the neighborhood are stocked up on cherry bombs and bottle rockets. It's kinda noisy. Maybe someday Terri will get to see fireworks instead of being put on display by the ghouls for their agenda.

Terri is a prisoner and I hope she has a brighter year.

324 posted on 12/31/2003 4:44:09 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org freeper site)
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To: floriduh voter
Happy New Year, FV.
Still here and still watching the threads and working on the hearts and minds of the ignorant whenever possible.
325 posted on 12/31/2003 5:02:28 PM PST by sarasmom (Message to the DOD : Very good , troops.Carry on. IN MY NAME)
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To: floriduh voter; All
** Happy New Year to all **

Thank you floriduh voter, for your tireless efforts to save Terri's life. You are my inspiration, in so many ways.

Dear FReepers, let's make 2004 the year Terri is set free from the life of confinement and isolation she leads today. Let her come home to her family, let her feel the sun on her face, let her have all the things she has been deprived of for so long, and let justice be served. The time has come to picket Bernie McCabe.

RALLY! RALLY! RALLY!

WE NEED YOU!

TERRI NEEDS YOU!

WE NEED BODIES!

Terri's life is at stake!
Please Help a Disabled Woman!

PLEASE BE ON THE STEPS OF
THE CRIMINAL COURT HOUSE
PICKET BERNIE McCABE'S OFFICE

14250 49TH STREET
CLEARWATER, FL

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 7 TH
&
THURSDAY, JANUARY 8TH
4:00 - 7:00 pm

PLEASE MAKE SIGNS!
PLEASE......MAKE STRONG STATEMENTS
NO NEED TO SPARE THE WORDS!

*DISABLED DEMAND THEIR RIGHTS!

*DON'T RAILROAD TERRI

*INVESTIGATE MICHAEL SCHIAVO

- never did CPR!!!!

- delayed calling EMS !!!

-left Terri FACE DOWN!

-Terri had stiff neck, multiple fractures, broken bones

- Terri is responsive!!!!

- Michael never "remembered" Terri's wishes
UNTIL 10 YEARS LATER!

- insulin found at bedside when Terri had
- hypoglycemic shock after Michael visits

*ARREST MICHAEL NOW!

*VIOLATIONS OF STATUTES 825-102 (3)
FAILURE TO PROVIDE DISABLED FLORIDA RESIDENT WITH CARE!

*VIOLATIONS FLA STATUTES 744.3215(1)
NEGLIGENT GUARDIAN!

*VIOLATIONS FLA STATUTES 825.103
MISUSE OF A DISABLED PERSON'S FUNDS!

www.terrisfight.org

326 posted on 12/31/2003 5:37:57 PM PST by msmagoo (Bring Terri home to her family in 2004)
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To: floriduh voter; msmagoo; sarasmom; tutstar
HAPPY NEW YEAR
TO TERRI'S FIGHTERS

Continued prayers for Terri & for us all.

327 posted on 12/31/2003 8:36:12 PM PST by cyn (cynic#456,789)
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To: msmagoo
thanks for your post & bump.
328 posted on 12/31/2003 8:37:49 PM PST by cyn (cynic#456,789)
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To: tutstar
good morning!
329 posted on 01/01/2004 5:10:17 AM PST by cyn (cynic#456,789)
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To: sweetliberty
BLESS FREEDOM,BLESS U.S.A!
330 posted on 01/01/2004 5:14:09 AM PST by serurier (We come here for the freedom of the world)
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To: Wampus SC
:o) Good to see you back here -- hope all is well! Happy new year!
331 posted on 01/01/2004 5:18:48 AM PST by cyn (cynic#456,789)
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To: cyn
My you are up early today LOL. Didn't realize we were keeping a tally on number of cynics! HA
332 posted on 01/01/2004 8:20:55 AM PST by tutstar (Jesus is the reason for the season! <((--><)
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To: cyn; All
Happy New Year!

I should have posted that the request to picket Bernie McCabe came from Cheryl F. RN, who spoke on the Schiavo case Tuesday night. She is helping the Schindlers coordinate the efforts of Terri's supporters for maximum impact. Hope there are more than a few FReepers outside the courthouse Jan. 7 & 8!

Terri makes the Top 10 Health/Medicals Stories of 2003:

1. SARS
2. Atkins Diet Gains Credibility
3. Obesity Surgery
4. New Medicare Prescription-Drug Benefit
5. Congress Passes a New Law to Promote Safe Drugs for Children
6. Hypertension Guidelines Expand

7. The Case of Terri Schiavo: Meaningful Life or Hopeless Limbo?

Terri Schiavo suffered brain damage in 1990 and has required tube feedings to keep her alive in a persistent vegetative state. Her husband and parents interpret the situation and Terri's wishes very differently. At the husband's legal request, tube feedings were discontinued. However, the Florida legislature quickly passed a law allowing the Governor to intervene, and the feedings resumed. While Terri Schiavo's fate remains unresolved for now, her case has renewed discussion and debate about the definition of meaningful life, the right to die, the rights of family members to make health-care decisions for loved ones who are unable to decide for themselves, and the government's role when family members disagree.

8. Hormones for Menopause - Symptom Treatment, Not Prevention
9. The "Polypill" Might Cut Heart Disease by 80 Percent
10. Flu Season Starts Early

333 posted on 01/01/2004 9:29:52 AM PST by msmagoo (Bring Terri home to her family in 2004)
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To: cyn
On another I was told the nation is not behind Terri ... only a handful of busybodies.
334 posted on 01/01/2004 5:50:14 PM PST by Mfkmmof4
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To: floriduh voter; Wampus SC; cyn; tutstar; msmagoo; All
Thank you for the interest in my efforts, but actually, I only live *near* Pinellas County. I live in Lakeland, Florida, "Imperial" Polk County, a Republican stronghold, in many ways.

Wampus SC also wonders if I was the same Gordon who posted a few days ago. Probably, as I've posted here several times.

Of the four court actions I've initiated, three are still pending:


Most current 6th Circuit action, with court briefs, are noe posted online.

The Fla 2nd DCA, about a block from my home, dismissed my Habeas petitions, about a day after filing them.

The Fla Supreme Court has neither dismissed nor affirmed my petitions. (Still pending)

I've made petitions or comlaints of human rights violations before the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, United Nations @ Geneva.

I know what you might be thinking (liberal do-nothing UN! ~ however, we can use any help we can get)

These petitions are also posted online, in both sorry *.txt text format, and the prettier, HTML format.

Front Page News: http://hometown.aol.com/gww1210

or http://www.geocities.com/gordon_watts32313

We must succeed - or, we could be next, you know? A little hospital stay, and then "long and exrutiating..." ...let's put it this way... we would die of dehydration before starvation, as we can only go about 4-5 days without water (I don't see how Schiavo made it 6 days and 2 hours- or whatever it was - it was longer then six days)

peace

gordon
335 posted on 01/01/2004 6:39:13 PM PST by gww1210 (Gordon Watts to news media: Myths about Schiavo need to be debunked!)
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To: wisconsinconservative; pc93; sweetliberty; tutstar; KDubRN; nicmarlo
I can't see the original post below, so I 'll copy and paste it in.

Although this is an old post, maybe some confusion still reigns, so I'll reply.

I hope that no one is put off by my apparent attack on Jeb in regards to my lawsuits which seek the mandatory recount law requires in some instances.

I am only on the side of the Law, so matter who is the perpetrator, and, in fact, it was Jim Smith, a buck-toothed Democrat, and successor to Sec of State, Kathrine Harris, who violated the election laws here.

What is more important than party politics is the fact that the election laws were violated in 2002 (Reno v McBride). Now, in 2000, I also filed an amicus with regards to that election (Bush v Gore), but I did not allege a violation of law, only a suggestion that we, like Hawaii in 1960 (JFK v Nixon) and Washington State (Sen Marie Cantwell) do a statewide recount, becasue I didn't want there to be questions about George W Bush's eventual victory, a cloud so to speak hanging over his head.

Now, in 2002, that was a dfifferent story: While Al Gore got a count, statewide machine recount, and some hand counts to boot, Reno who was also defeated by less than half a percent, was illegally denied.

Now, she's given up, but my suits are still valid.

Sorry if you're confused, but I'll make my point:

The 2002 Reno v McBride election had one thing in common with the mistreatments of Theresa Schindler-Schiavo:

Both were illegal, hense my reluctant, but eventual, involvment. I'm not a lawyer - or even a law student, so I am being taken from my normal line of work to do these things, but alas, I am right: The "Rule of Law" msut be upheld.

(Yes, I know Reno's a Democrat, but the laws still applies to protect her - whether she likes it or not.)

The 2000 amicus was merely an attempt to avoid any dark clouds over GW Bush, by giving the democrats all the chances they needed to silence the critics.

My side of the 2002 lawsuit is posted on my website - and we've all but forgotten the 2000 election.

Gordon Watts in Lakeland

http://HomeTown.AOL.com/Gww1210

or

http://www.GeoCities.com/Gordon_Watts32313

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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates)

Posted by wisconsinconservative to pc93; sweetliberty; tutstar; KDubRN; nicmarlo
On News/Activism 12/12/2003 6:42:38 AM PST #155 of 335

It appears that Gordon W.Watts was involved in the 2000 Florida election fiasco.

Look here: http://www.flcourts.org/sct/clerk/briefs/2003/201-400/03-385_ini.pdf

and here: http://www.flcourts.org/pubinfo/election/OrdWatts.pdf

I'm not quite awake yet so I can't tell whcih side he was on. Can anyone figure these docs out?
336 posted on 01/02/2004 7:11:09 AM PST by gww1210 (Gordon Watts to news media: Myths about Schiavo need to be debunked!)
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To: gww1210; All
I can definitely understand your point about the laws needing to be applied consistently.
In Terri's case I believe I read that DCF would not pursue the matter because it is a civil case. Au contraire, if Terri were a minor involved in a custody dispute and abuse allegations were brought up they'd be involved in a heartbeat. A pedophile would not be allowed to serve as guardian because of the obvious 'conflict of interest' yet Michael can break the law and still hold her life in his hands with the blessing of the courts which are supposed to interpret the law, yet seem to be ignorant of understanding the English language.Judge Greer is on the Commmittee for Guardianship Monitoring yet doesn't apply the statutes pertaining to guardians to Michael.
They must be in a vacuum. How many other situations of injustice have people endured and noone knew about it. I thought the 2000 election fiasco was a pitiful shame...it doesn't hold a candle to Terri's case. They are going to murder her. I feel like someone needs to pinch me sometimes so I'll wake up. It's absolutely unbelievable that we have so much corruption in the system and equally unbelievable that half our citizens are oblivious to it.
Thanks for keeping us posted gww1210
337 posted on 01/02/2004 7:58:13 AM PST by tutstar (Jesus is the reason for the season! <((--><)
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To: gww1210
Great job!

You are showing us that one person can get his voice heard, if persistent enough.
338 posted on 01/02/2004 8:38:16 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: gww1210
After the laws the Clinton administration broke, I wouldn't worry about anything that helps Reno or anyone else closely assoicated with Clinton, but I do think you are doing a very good service by filing briefs for Terri.

If a law was broken in the Reno election, your brief deserves to be heard, but I'm not going to bother reading it.

Since there are mostly liberal judges in Florida, I would think the judges would favor Reno, so your must not have made as strong a case as you might think.

But good luck with stirring the pot in Terri's case.
339 posted on 01/02/2004 8:50:41 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: gww1210
Terri's brother kept whispering in Terri's ear to "hang in there." It can't be said enough that there were also so many prayers for Terri by lay people and healing ministers. We have a rally on Jan 7th and 8th between 4 - 7:00 pm at the courthouse complex on 49th st. We are protesting Bernie McCabe's do nothing stance. Time for me to make yet another sign.
340 posted on 01/02/2004 5:45:35 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org freeper site)
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