Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates)

Various | December 4, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

(Thread 11) Link back to thread 10 (Nov. 24-30)

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Contained in Thread 10:

Who can be a guardian, 1993 letter from Bob Schindler to Michael Schiavo, Palm beach Post editorial and FReeper response, T'wit's song about Schiavo and Felos, transcript of Lee Webb's (CBN) interview with Kate Adamson, partial timeline of Terri's case, the story of Martin and Anne Shapiro and the report on Terri's birthday party,

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

You will notice that this thread is not specifically dated. That is because we are just going to keep this one going until we have need of another one.

A reminder: please do not post personal information on the public forum. We have lots of folks on scene down in Florida and we don't want them having any problems with the death squad.

INDEX OF TERRI THREADS ON FR

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Latest threads on Terri's Case:

As Terri Schiavo turns 40 next week, her loved ones fight for her life

Suspicious Circumstances, the Strange Case of Terri Schiavo

Schiavo asks Pinellas judge to rule without trial

Michael Schiavo tries to block Gov. Bush

Michael Schiavo Again Seeks to Block New Information About Terri

Why Was Terri Denied Holy Communion?

Terri Schiavo's 40th birthday Wednesday

Florida's Bush gets report on Schiavo

Participate in Terri Schiavo's Birthday, December 3, With prayer, Mass Intentions, Cards and Notes

FR Birthday Card: Greetings, Prayers for Terri Schindler-Schiavo

New Guardian Urged for Terri Schiavo, More Evaluation of Her Condition Needed

The Guardian Speaks: Terri Schiavo's guardian files his report; there's bad news and good news.

Terri Schiavo's Family Celebrates Her 40th Birthday, Hundreds Send Cards

Changes Proposed In Right-To-Die Laws - Your help is needed NOW in Florida!

The Case of Terri Schiavo: The Human Rorschach Test

[cyn]

WOW! These are sketches Terri did as a teenager. Her family just found them! Check out http://www.terrisfight.org for more.

[cyn]

Pls see the above, esp. if you need a smile!

[sweetliberty]

Those are incredible.

[cyn]

Hi, sweet! Aren't they wonderful? Just what I needed to see tonight! I have them printed out now ;o)

[msmagoo]

Thanks for bringing them over here! Isn't the expression she gave her drawings amazing? Her sensitivity just shines.

[msmagoo]

To listen to the Cheryl Ford, Ron Panzer and Suzanne Schindler interview, Tues. night at 9 p.m. Eastern:

http://www.highway2health.net/radio_show.htm

Don't forget to tune in!
Scroll down to
Monday-Tuesday-Wednesday
Click to Listen

[cyn]

BUMP -- thanks, came in to it late, but am listening to it now thru miracle of internet. GREAT interview, wow!

[cyn]

Suzanne's on -- she sounds great, is calm and SO well spoken. She always sounds great! What a wonderful sister.

Just had a call from a speech therapist asking WHY no swallow test

It's not that there's a court order against it, just it was allowed to coast -- but that Michael S is denying her feeding which is a felony crime under the neglect laws punishable by up to 15, some up to 30 years in prison.

suzanne -- family is frustated taht MS is getting by with this abuse, negledt for YEARS -- she can't even leave her room. how can he get away with it? we don't understand

bioethics presence controlling this at harvard and at other medical schools (RON)

[cyn]

new caller -- Gordon from FL -- wants to underscore mistreatment DCF is OBLIGATED to report this investigate this, local police, state atty -- am seeking habeus corpus in his lawsuit. David Kirkland is right -- there are a LOT of laws being broken -- (this guy has

David Kirkland says -- Gordon has done some in depth research -- and is filing as citizen of FL, US, and has filed against local police, etc

[floriduh voter]

Did you catch the kickback potential between J. Greer and the head of DCF Frank Nagatano who NEVER donated to Greer's campaign but got a campaign refund in 1998? THAT WAS NEW. I'm glad I tuned in. IT IS A CONSPIRACY and I wish I lived by Tallahassee to picket.

[cyn]

new caller, disabled -- asks "what constitues a "useless eater", is it that we dont pay taxes? waht is it?"

Ron -- embryos for research, et al cited as leading to where we are now -- eugenics, nazis, any requiring $$ to care for them -- to ration scarce resources. scientists, lawyers, researchers -- believe they, the scientific comm know more than we do about rights about life. Just as in situation w/Terri or Rus cooper-dowda, rus proved they didn't know what they are talking about. You disabled who are speaking out are being marginalized -- but THEY are in control of the agenda.

reseach belmont report, belmont principles -- comm. 1960's onward have formalized. these are now entrenched in our law in many different ways -- in health care system. most people don't know or understand.

caller -- do you think that they expect Terri rto be an organ donor?

Ron -- I don't know about that. one thing we do know is that suspected attempted murderer ms has requested cremation on her death, has arranged for htis whihc would destroy any evidence. [suzanne in background concurs] but now it's END of two hrs -- thanks to all who have listened

hospicepatients

[I hear Suzanne in background saying THANK YOU. [Hugs to you, Suzanne]]

HOST: (seems at loss for words) ... I tell you what . . . well its been an enlightening evening (ahem) it's not over, I guess none of us are going to lay donw on this. Don't give up on this -- when you fight for terri, you're fighting for US, for everyone (paraphrased)

Emails ok but they're ignoring. need to be picketing. civilian population is unaware of this, are just listening to (drivel). Let the people on the streets know, gotta be vocal, gotta be overt. We love you all . We're praying for Terri.

tune in to website for updates. we had 45 phone calls first hr when couldn't take them; had 1 per min second hr.

HOST -- in closing: We love you Terri, we pray for you Terri. Walk in power Terri, hang in there. (ending blessing for Terri)

[floriduh voter]

The broadcast by Ron Panzer was excellent. Caller Gordon has SUED everyone. His lawsuits were available by email and he's following through. I can't believe what a corrupt system we have here - I was right to make a Nazi Florida sign for my protest. It truly is but it's happening all over. There are hundreds of Terri's and WHY???

[cyn]

NO, sorry i missed that! anything more? There must be something more going on here! For one thing look at all the $$$$$ going around -- Greer made, what, $550k from being on board of directors of hospice?

Sen. King is set to designate a spot at USF for some sort of aging/geriatric center -- that 's something I read weeks ago, don't know if I ever posted it here, but came out in info on Jay Wolfson somehow. So there's $$$ for all.

WHY must Terri be in the middle of it? WHy are they dead set on her death??

[mickie]

Fox News never have Terri's story on anymore. They just don't touch it. Why?
I don't much listen to the other stations, do they have anything about Terri on?
How in the world can ms get away with keeping Terri locked up in one little room. Is he judge and jury......what is the crime? God help us, I pray. As I am distressed.

[cyn]

Yeah, Gordon was interesting -- do you know what his website is or anything more about him?

[cyn]

I got the feeling from the radio show that it's tough on EVERYONE, and rightly so -- we're talking about the desired murder of a 40 yr old woman, and she's just the tip of the iceberg.

[sweetliberty]

"WHY must Terri be in the middle of it? WHy are they dead set on her death??"

She's nothing more than a pawn in their chess game. Schiavo is the only one for whom it is personal, and to a lesser extent, Felos. She is convenient. They have an agenda and she happened to play into it. They see an opportunity to push their socialistic euthanasia agenda. She was a stroke of good luck for them, and like a dog that happened on a juicy bone, they're not going to let go unless forced to do so.

[cyn]

Yeah (sigh), the culture of death -- even for those who should not be dying! I was talking to someone about this earlier:

Terri is NOT at the end of her life, she is NOT terminally ill. That is what distinguishes her from those that the AARP is concerned about, those at the end of their lives with no hope of getting better (or getting younger!).

[RusCD]

http://www.ncdweb.net/Silent_Scream.html\
Nebraska Civic Digest
"Silent Scream"
by Rolly Church

I'd post the article but I cna't get it to copy right tonight.

Rus

[sweetliberty]

You're right, but that is a minor detail. This is an opportunity to advance their agenda much faster than they had dreamed. If they can push this case over the edge and get Terri "put down," they will have their precedent to start eliminating other "non-productive" citizens and they can be the ones to determine who deserves to live and who should die.