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Teacher tells kids Santa is 'make-believe' (1st graders)
AP ^ | Thursday, December 4, 2003

Posted on 12/04/2003 2:56:56 PM PST by presidio9

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:32 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Sandra Jolly said her 6-year-old son's Christmas was spoiled when his teacher told the first-grade class Monday that "Santa Claus is make-believe."

"He had this sad, lost puppy dog look on his face. This unhappy, empty look," Jolly said. "He said his teacher informed the entire class that Santa is make-believe."


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To: zlala
Yes, I agree.

And, to a point, I would agree that this probably wasn't the brightest thing that the teacher could have done, and had I been in the same situation, I would have probably told the kids to ask their parents.

I thank my stars that I teach 7th grade instead of 1st, so that I don't have to deal with this.



141 posted on 12/04/2003 4:37:01 PM PST by FLAMING DEATH (Why do I carry a .45? Because they don't make a .46!)
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To: FLAMING DEATH
The Santa myth, on the other hand, is perpetuated solely for the amusement of the parents.

I feel sorry for you. Nothing else needs to be said.

142 posted on 12/04/2003 4:37:15 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: FLAMING DEATH
I thank my stars that I teach 7th grade instead of 1st, so that I don't have to deal with this.

And bless you for that!

143 posted on 12/04/2003 4:38:43 PM PST by zlala (hmmm...)
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To: usadave
The point is not whether anyone has lied, but is it right to in order to have fun? I can't remember lying to my children, but I probably did to protect them perhaps, but not for "fun's sake", but if I did it was wrong IMO.
144 posted on 12/04/2003 4:38:55 PM PST by Iowegian
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To: don-o
There is nothing more valuable in raising children than love. And love does not include lying.

So the reason most parents let their children believe in Santa Claus isn't because they want their children to experience the same wonder that they did as children; rather, it's because they don't love their children. Thanks for clearing that up.
I'm going to call my parents up right now to express my new-found resentment.

145 posted on 12/04/2003 4:38:59 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: FLAMING DEATH
I don't understand why I have to say it, but there's a BIG difference between waiting until a child is mature enough to absorb information before revealing it to them, and making fools out of your kids and a hypocrite out of yourself by telling them a mythical figure is in fact, real.

Your problem is that you view six year olds as miniature adults. Small children spend a great deal of time fantisizing. It is part of the way they learn as their brains continue to develp outside the womb. Some of them carry on conversations with imaginary friends. There is nothing abnormal about this. And they rarely worry about looking like fools. At the age of six some of them still accidently wet their pants. No big deal. Change your pants and head back out to the playground.

146 posted on 12/04/2003 4:39:44 PM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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To: Hodar
I'm with you, Hodar. I figured out that Santa couldn't fit down the chimney, etc. and shared my findings with my parents, who ridiculed me. I persisted, and told them I didn't believe he was real, and asked them to confirm. They continued to laugh. The ridicule at my expense affected me deeply and did erode that absolute trust I had had in them. I got over it, OK, but learned to trust myself more than anyone else. That has served me in good stead. We were neutral about Santa and let the kids have their fun. We never lied to them. When they asked about him, we complimented them on their intelligence for figuring it out themselves. They had big smiles on their faces.

I don't see where this issue fits into the first grade curriculum. Would rather they learn reading and arithmetic. Teacher deserves all the public fuss she has created.
147 posted on 12/04/2003 4:40:12 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: presidio9
I said he's figured it out, past tense. He pretty much figured it out at 7, but then we set up the camera and had the picture for him on Christmas morning. He could not figure out what was going on.

He didn't/doesn't know that we have a Santa Costume from my husband's company.

He still doesn't know how we did the picture. We've just let him figure it all out. He's a smart kid.
148 posted on 12/04/2003 4:41:22 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Iowegian
Yeah OK you think that telling our kids the truth about Santa is the same as telling them about fisting? Am I getting warm on your point? Is there one, that is a good point?

I was right the first time: you are drinking.

Push back chair. Stand up. Move away from monitor. Find grownup. Bring grownup back with you to minitor. Have grownup read posting to you. Ask politely for explanation.

149 posted on 12/04/2003 4:41:26 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Therefore: you can drop the ringing, self-aggrandizing pledgings to the notion of Absolute Truth anytime, now.

I'm not claiming moral superiority. See #144.

150 posted on 12/04/2003 4:41:48 PM PST by Iowegian
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To: luckystarmom
I said he's figured it out, past tense. He pretty much figured it out at 7, but then we set up the camera and had the picture for him on Christmas morning. He could not figure out what was going on.

I know. I was just kidding about the log cabin thing. Where would you hide the presents?

151 posted on 12/04/2003 4:44:19 PM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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To: jwalsh07
I agree with you to let kids be kids and let them grow up at the proper pace. But the question is still, is it right to lie to have your fun and to let them have fun?
152 posted on 12/04/2003 4:45:07 PM PST by Iowegian
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To: MrsClaus
Welcome abord M'am. Please tell the big guy I have been mostly nice this year.
154 posted on 12/04/2003 4:47:36 PM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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To: Hodar
Um, I think you're nuts.
155 posted on 12/04/2003 4:47:48 PM PST by FlJoePa
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To: presidio9; firebrand
This is my kind of teacher.

DOWN WITH SANTA! PUT THE CHRIST BACK IN CHRISTMAS!!!

156 posted on 12/04/2003 4:49:03 PM PST by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: FLAMING DEATH
Um, I think you're nuts too.
157 posted on 12/04/2003 4:49:25 PM PST by FlJoePa
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To: MrsClaus
Hahahahaha Perfect!

I'll add this little reminder to those who miss out on such a wonderful part of life by choice. Hollywood often got it right in it's golden years. One simple story said so much about human behavior.


158 posted on 12/04/2003 4:50:23 PM PST by Cagey
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To: Clemenza
This is my kind of teacher.

Say it ain't so. Not you too.

159 posted on 12/04/2003 4:50:26 PM PST by presidio9 (protectionism is a false god)
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To: MrsClaus
Oh how clever, you signed up with a new account so you could do that. You take this Santa thing a little too seriously.
160 posted on 12/04/2003 4:51:14 PM PST by Iowegian
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