Posted on 12/01/2003 5:01:52 PM PST by Kay Soze
December 1, 2003, 7:38 PM EST
SALT LAKE CITY -- A lawyer for a Utah man with five wives argued Monday that his polygamy convictions should be thrown out following a Supreme Court decision decriminalizing gay sex.
The nation's high court in June struck down a Texas sodomy law, ruling that what gay men and women do in the privacy of their homes is no business of government.
It's no different for polygamists, argued Tom Green's attorney, John Bucher, to the Utah Supreme Court.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...
?!?!?!Huh?!?!? Oh what the hell are you worried about then?! Aids obviously hhunts down gays and infects them all willy-nilly unlike Heterosexuals?!
As far as evidence to support my claims go. It's everywhere. Heterosexuals and homosexuals are getting STDs everyday and where as on a per capita basis it may be more prevelent in the gay community it's also prevelent in heterosexual communities. No I wonder if one group is more sexually active than the other and wonder what the degree of personal responsiblity and caution is amongest the people that do get infected?!
By the way did you realize that over 80% of serial killers are white males?! I think we should stop allowing white male children into society because of the dispoportionate rate of white serial killers. . .
Okay, so post it. Don't forget your evidence needs to support your claim of propaganda:
Homosexual behavior results in severe health hazards that can affect all of us.Don't forget posts 113, 114, 121 and 158.Homosexuals, being around 2% (including bisexuals) of the population, account for a third of child molestations. Sources: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
There is absolutely no evidence homosexuality is genetic.
Homosexuals can change their behavior. That's just one of many links. You can find more of the same here and here.
The above from my post 64.
You seem really intent upon regurgitating the same ole song and dance yet incapable of having a logical disussion if your just going to keep pointing to the same crap sources over and over again as opposed to engaging in an open and logical debate then I really fail to see your point.
It seems to me that you don't have an actual arguement of your own and just resort to reposting the same ole ad hominem propaganda in which their religous conotations and agenda is clear. I don't expect the church to accept homosexuality as decent behaviour and that's fine. You shouldn't expect everyone else in this country to think that we live under a theocracy.
Once again in case you haven't gotten it yet. STDs can be transmitted by anybody who engages in sex regardless of sexual orientation and the chances increase due to your level of responsibility and promiscuity. Regardless of sexual orientation. Now what kind of freaking statistics do you need in order to understand that simple concept?!
Um, I posted some well referenced sources and you claimed they were propaganda and you have used misdirection and straw man arguments each time I asked you to support your statements. If you want a discussion let's discuss what I've posted, and we can start with your evidence that what I posted is propaganda. That is, unless you want to take your comment back. Your move.
I'm glad to see you're at least looking for something to discredit what I've posted. Unfortunately, your above comments misrepresent what was stated at the link, and the contents have nothing to do with supporting your propaganda comment. Your use of misdirection will not make this go away.
Yes, but the problem is that government is ALREADY in our lives with respect to marriage. Taxes, insurance coverage, the courts and their treatment of divorce, etc. The only reason homosexuals want marriage recognized is so that they can reap some of the benefits of having a marriage that is recognized by the law. Get rid of the various legal benefits and penalties associated with marriage, then MAYBE I could understand the case for recognizing gay marriage. But you see, once you do that, the only authority on marriage is the church, most varieties of which DON'T recognize homosexual "unions" as marriage.
On the other hand, one could make the case that government has reason to support only heterosexual marriage, for the simple reason that only a man and a woman can produce children. And since the country needs children (a.k.a. future producers and tax payers), the government has an incentive to ENCOURAGE heterosexual marriage and the children that it produces. Homosexual couples cannot produce children (not yet, anyway), and therefore cannot contribute to the "greater good" by producing offspring, and hopefully raising them to be decent people and good citizens.
Bingo!! You are dead-on re: that which is/will be key factor in the successful extremist Islamification of the Western world.
Just where are the bid, bad, bold, and loud "feminists" when they have a golden opportunity to advance from being mere idiots to "useful idiots?"
And they should be encouraged to look up the terms "shariah," "infibulation," and "flogging" in their shiny and up-to-date sets of the Encyclopedia Britannica.....
Agreed. And such is a point -- in fact, "The Point" -- that we openly declare and readily discuss.
But, in the end, we do indeed worship Jesus Christ as the Savior of all mankind and the Only Begotten Son of God, our Heavenly Father.
And far from "demoting" Jesus the Christ, as we are often accused of doing through our doctrine and works, we also consider Him to be one and the same with Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament, who righteously did, does, and always will act in accordance with and obedience to the will of His (and our) Father, Elohim, who generally is referred to and properly worshipped as God the Father.......
It stands to reason that it all depends on whom a person is having sex within a polygamous relationship....
That assertion is completely at odds with what we have declared, preached, and done since the Church was established in this, the Dispensation of the Fulness of Times.......
Does the LDS organization have secret sacred temple ceremonies?
Are you of THIS group or the Utah offshoot?
BTW, when you use a capital "O" when referring to "orthodox Christianity" in general, you appear to be making reference to the Orthodox Church, a Constantinople-based, world-wide denomination which includes Greek, Russian, Serbian, and other groups (called "rites" by them).
I was raised in the Greek Orthodox Church and, with or without me, they remain a conservative and Christ-focused denomination. My widowed mother still is an active member of the Greek Orthodox Church and we respect each others' views and religious activities.
As a general observation, I must say that Christians of all types, Jews, moderate "non-hijacked" Muslims (who now are numbered amongst the targets of Islamofascists), Hindus, etc. must stand firmly together to face a fanatical force which, as it has declared, seeks to "convert" by force -- unto death -- the entire world.
"Range wars" carried out on the FR and elsewhere between Roman Catholics, evangelical Christians, bona fide Muslims, religious Jews, etc., etc., are counter-productive and waste time, effort, and resources that would be better spent resisting that which increasingly resembles the scriptural description of the Anti-Christ which defines victory as the destruction of the free agency of God's children. It is my sincere belief that we indeed are in the latter-days, and accordingly we must work together and, insofar as possible, in love and harmony to prepare the earth for the coming of the Messiah and His eternal triumph over Satan. Truth, resolve, courage, devotion our Father in Heaven, abound and transcend issues of denomination and affiliation -- and they exist wherever they can be found....
And I agree about what you have bolded, but am a bit confused about what you mean by: 'bona fide Muslims'.
Interesting.........
Could you explain what it was about LDS teachings that convinced you that the GOC was not enough?
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