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Bush Visit: They slaughter protesters, too
Guardian ^ | 11/23/03 | Andrew Rawnsley,

Posted on 11/22/2003 6:28:39 PM PST by Pikamax

They slaughter protesters, too

The atrocities in Istanbul hold lessons for both George W. Bush and those who demonstrated against his visit to Britain

Andrew Rawnsley, political journalist of the year Sunday November 23, 2003 The Observer

Just because George W. Bush says something is so doesn't make it axiomatically wrong. The man is right: 'Freedom is a beautiful thing.' Like many things of beauty, freedom can also be very fragile. That most basic of freedoms - the freedom to go about your innocent business without being blown up - was cruelly denied to the Britons and Turks killed and maimed by the bombs that ripped through Istanbul. If the intention was also to devastate George Bush's state visit to Britain, it didn't have quite that result. The bombings of the British consulate in Istanbul and HSBC bank actually had the effect of rescuing the Bush visit from vapidity. The atrocities suddenly and violently invested the Bush-Blair alliance with a renewed seriousness of resolve and purpose.

Though the red carpet rolled out for President Bush had been strewn with potential banana-skins, the visit did not turn into the cringeing embarrassment to Tony Blair that was widely predicted. The one setpiece speech delivered by the President at the Banqueting House was more subtle, fluent, multidimensional and pitched to appeal to non-Texan ears than had been generally anticipated. President Bush set out to challenge the perception of his White House as blindly unilateralist. 'In this century, as the last, nations can accomplish more together than apart,' he said. Tony Blair could have written that. Perhaps he did.

Even some of the most vigorous Bush-whackers pronounced themselves quite impressed. I would judge that he exceeded most people's expectations, even if we must allow for how grass-cutting expectations of the President are on this side of the Atlantic. The Liberal Democrats' Menzies Campbell, one of the most trenchant opponents of the war against Saddam, no Bushie he, emerged from his private talks with the President to announce that he was 'most certainly surprised at the extent to which the caricature of him was inaccurate'.

Beyond the purpose of demonstrating to Britain that George Bush is more than a cartoon character, the visit was otherwise developing into a sequence of stilted photo-opportunities. The President was moved around in a steel bubble of ceremonial. The protesters staged their own rituals by burning the Stars and Stripes. On issues of contention, such as the trade dispute between America and Europe, the Prime Minister and President had no progress to announce and nothing of substance to say.

The wrangle over steel tariffs, the bogus footman's revelations that the Queen likes to feed scones to her corgis, what Nigella cooked for lunch, the pageantry and piffle was brutally placed in perspective by the blood and rubble on the streets of Istanbul.

That did not mean a complete end to the ritualising. Mr Blair went into default response to the bombings when he declared: 'There must be no holding back, no compromise, no hesitation in confronting this menace, in attacking it wherever and whenever we can and in defeating it utterly.' Mr Bush vowed that they were, nevertheless, winning their 'war against terror'. Both men reached for well-worn phrases of condemnation and oft-rehearsed pledges that there will be no capitulation to the fanatics.

Their opponents, on the streets and elsewhere, were just as predictable. The bombings were 'the bloody price', 'the collateral damage', the 'inevitable consequence' of the actions taken by George Bush, with the support of Tony Blair, in the two years since al-Qaeda attacked the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. Well, this much is surely true. It was not just a coincidence that the bombs were targeted on symbols of Britain while George Bush was staying at Buckingham Palace. One thing we know about al-Qaeda is that it has a murderous talent for grabbing the world's attention. It is equally certain that terrorist attacks were planned on Turkey, Bush visit to Britain or no Bush visit.

The carnage in Turkey illustrates again that this is as much a civil war within the Islamic world as it is an assault on the West. Turkey is quadruply hated by Islamist extremists. It is an ally of America and Israel. Since modern Turkey rose from the ashes of the Ottoman Empire, it has followed a secular path, which has been continued by its current moderate Islamic government. Istanbul is the increasingly prosperous interface between Islam and Europe.

Turkey is the one country in the region that has demonstrated that democracy and progress are fully compatible with being an Islamic nation. These are the reasons that Turkey was attacked. If the Bush visit to Britain made a difference, it was only to the timing.

There are those who suggest that these outrages are some sort of deserved 'punishment' for the West's failure to deliver a resolution to the Israel/Palestine conflict. The answer to this is to remember that al-Qaeda was plotting and executing atrocities long before the White House was occupied by George W. Bush.

Few around the world had heard of the then governor of Texas when Osama bin Laden put into motion the 11 September attacks. Israel was led not by Ariel Sharon, but by a Labour Prime Minister who gave every impression of wanting to achieve a peaceful resolution of the conflict with the Palestinians.

Bill Clinton was in the Oval Office, highly energised about brokering a peace settlement in the belief that this would be his historic legacy to efface the tawdry aspects of his presidency. It was at this time, when the United States was working hard for peace and hopes that it could be achieved had never been higher, that Osama bin Laden planned his atrocities against America.

There's no denying that a resolution of the Israeli-Palestine conflict would drain much poison from the Arab view of the West. But you can't leap from there to the conclusion that al-Qaeda terrorists would then become peace-lovers. The purposes of these terrorists are best served by the continuation of that conflict.

The charge against Tony Blair from his domestic critics is that his alliance with George Bush has put Britain on the 'front line' when we could have retreated to a more cowardly back seat. Truth to tell, Ministers were not really shocked by the attacks in Istanbul. If anything, they have been quietly astonished that British targets have not been hit much earlier.

For this form of terrorism, the front line is wherever the bombers can strike. Islamist extremists have killed the citizens of countries that supported the removal of the Taliban and the toppling of Saddam. They have slaughtered Italian policemen in Iraq and young Australian holidaymakers in Bali.

The terrorists have been equally delighted to kill the citizens of countries that volubly opposed the military action in Iraq. They have massacred French technicians in Karachi and German tourists in Tunisia.

The hallmark of this terrorism is that it kills anywhere anytime in any numbers that it can. The victims are American, European, African, Asian and Hispanic, Jews, Christians, Hindus, atheists - and Muslims. In Istanbul, as so often before, these people have no compunction about murdering their own faith.

In the two years since the attacks on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, the United States has been slowly learning that military superiority, however colossal, cannot by itself defeat this sort of enemy. Armadas of aircraft carriers will not stop the suicide bomber. Co-operation with allies and the use of intelligence, in every sense, will be as vital to prevailing over al-Qaeda.

In his speech at the Banqueting House, Mr Bush revealed some signs of absorbing the force of the argument, pressed on him privately by Tony Blair, that they have to strive to address the causes of terrorism as well as its perpetrators.

As for those protesters who toppled that papier-mché Bush in Trafalgar Square, they were made to look naive. The bombers, if they could, would happily slaughter them too. It is a delusion to think that all that is needed to make the world safe is a change to the occupants of the White House and Number 10. Charles Kennedy could be Prime Minister and Michael Moore might be President of the United States. Al-Qaeda would carry on killing. Because, to them, freedom is an ugly thing.

a.rawnsley@observer.co.uk


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: MJY1288
I predict Iran will be taken over by the students and the Clerics will suffer the same fate as the Sha of Iran in 1979. Syria's Assad will have to be taken out by force and once Iran is no longer a threat, Israel will handle Syria and allow the people of Syria to elect their own leaders.

Actually Mike, I think Turkey is going to be the one to "fix" Syria. I believe that Turkey controls the water to Syria.

21 posted on 11/22/2003 8:12:08 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
Is that right?, I didn't know that Turkey held that key
22 posted on 11/22/2003 8:24:51 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats Have Reached Rock Bottom and The Digging Continues)
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To: McGavin999
Turkey elected a Muslim Cleric as their Prime Minister last year didn't they?

My brother has spent quite a bit of time in Turkey and he said the Military is who calls the shots in Turkey and if the political leaders get out of hand, the Military will step in. But that is just his observation, I would like to hear from a few of our Turkish FReepers in the know

23 posted on 11/22/2003 8:28:33 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats Have Reached Rock Bottom and The Digging Continues)
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To: Pikamax
BTTT
24 posted on 11/22/2003 8:33:44 PM PST by auboy (I'm out here on the front lines, sleep in peace tonight–American Soldier–Toby Keith, Chuck Cannon)
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To: MJY1288; Miss Marple; Molly Pitcher; Dog; JohnHuang2; Utah Girl; MozartLover; PhiKapMom; ...
The Liberal Democrats' Menzies Campbell, one of the most trenchant opponents of the war against Saddam, no Bushie he, emerged from his private talks with the President to announce that he was 'most certainly surprised at the extent to which the caricature of him was inaccurate'.

Now if only our own liberal 'rats would make such an announcement! .... we know that they know it.

25 posted on 11/22/2003 8:44:12 PM PST by kayak (The Vast, Right-Wing Conspiracy is truly Vast! [JohnHuang2])
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To: 6323cd
Black hole warning!
26 posted on 11/22/2003 8:46:20 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: Krodg
Take it where you can get it.
27 posted on 11/22/2003 8:49:05 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: BlueAngel
>>I think many unlikely Brits were charmed by our President. We are not surprised.

I posted the complete text of Bush's London speech on a politically neutral board I frequent, shortly after he made it. Even the Lefties there, normally a pack of howling monkeys on political threads there, were subdued.

It's amazing what happens when the real information gets through to folks, instead of having CNN and the WashPost telling people what to think.

28 posted on 11/22/2003 8:50:13 PM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: FreedomPoster
That speech GWB gave on wednesday was a masterpiece in both content and delivery.
29 posted on 11/22/2003 8:52:22 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats Have Reached Rock Bottom and The Digging Continues)
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To: MJY1288
I wish more Americans had seen it / read it.

Here it is, for those who haven't seen it:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0311/S00182.htm
30 posted on 11/22/2003 8:57:35 PM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: Pikamax
There's no denying that a resolution of the Israeli-Palestine conflict would drain much poison from the Arab view of the West. But you can't leap from there to the conclusion that al-Qaeda terrorists would then become peace-lovers.

Bin Laden himself was massively disinterested in the Palestinian question. He was very specific in several speeches - his issues were U.S. presence on Saudi soil and U.S. cultural and military dominance in the Arab world.

The author clearly understands that al-Qaeda and their sympathizers mean what they have been saying for quite a long time now, that they really do intend to make war on all of the West, and that it isn't restricted to the verbal. It took 3000 dead in New York to make some of us take this seriously. For still others even that wasn't enough.

31 posted on 11/22/2003 9:01:49 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: kayak
You never hear Ted Kennedy make fun of Bush's intellect.

Which is why he has become such an implacable foe. Dude's skeered of W.
32 posted on 11/22/2003 9:02:59 PM PST by lavrenti ("Tell your momma and your poppa, sometimes good guys don't wear white." The Standells)
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To: FreedomPoster
C_Span has it posted on their site in either Real Player format or Windows Media player. Below is the link to the website, and the the video link is at the top of their most watched video's list

Pres. Bush Speech in London on Transatlantic Alliance

33 posted on 11/22/2003 9:08:44 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats Have Reached Rock Bottom and The Digging Continues)
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To: lavrenti
What amazes me about these Klymers on the left, is that they continue to underestimate George W. Bush, despite the fact that he has been beating them like a drum since the day he was sworn in. The only explaination for this, that I can come up with, is they must consider his refusal to counter their rhetoric or strike back at their baseless accusations and bald face lies as a sign of weakness and therefore they figure they can get away with more bogus claims and elevate their absurd assertions to the next level, thinking George W. Bush will not respond because of his commitment to ending the "Politics of Personal Destruction"

What these Klymers have failed to recognize is that George W. Bush has refused to respond to their baseless attacks on him not even once in his first three years in office. Meanwhile, he and his campaign have miles of video tape the Democrats non-stop practice of "Politics of Personal Destruction"

34 posted on 11/22/2003 9:37:23 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats Have Reached Rock Bottom and The Digging Continues)
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To: Pikamax
most certainly surprised at the extent to which the caricature of him was inaccurate'.

Why did he believe the caricature of Bush in the first place? Most people are indeed sheep that cannot think for themselves and believe everything they hear from the media.

35 posted on 11/22/2003 9:48:27 PM PST by dougherty (USA = FLOPHOUSE TO THE WORLD)
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I had someone at dinner tonight who asked me what I thought of what America was doing to the world. He was of the mindset that America is making the world a scarier place.
I replied with most of the points stated in this article, primarily that our lying down on the issue will not prevent more killing by Alqueda and that he seemed to forget that Alqueda attacked us during a time of peace. I wish I had known this was posted at the time, It would have saved me a lot of wind!!

BTTT!!
36 posted on 11/22/2003 10:40:00 PM PST by mylife
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To: Pikamax
The atrocities suddenly and violently invested the Bush-Blair alliance with a renewed seriousness of resolve and purpose.

Like the Democrats, the terrorists never learn. They thouht that attack in Turkey would counter what Muslims around the world were hearing from Bush's own lips, about freedom, and his intention to bring freedom to their lands. But these attacks will keep backfiring on them, just as the Democrats' attacks on Bush will keep backfiring.

37 posted on 11/22/2003 11:01:43 PM PST by WaterDragon
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To: MJY1288
Excellent article!!
38 posted on 11/22/2003 11:06:36 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Pikamax
This is a great piece, in an unlikely paper. Bump!
39 posted on 11/22/2003 11:11:13 PM PST by July 4th
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To: MJY1288
Hope you are correct.
40 posted on 11/22/2003 11:11:46 PM PST by Kay
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