Church cuts ties with US over gay bishop

SAPA-AFP via Independent Online (SA) ^ | November 22 2003

[Clive]

Kampala - Uganda's Anglican Church announced Saturday that it had severed relations with its counterpart in the United States after an openly gay bishop was consecrated earlier this month.

"The Province of the Church of Uganda (Anglican) cuts its fellowship and communion with the Episcopal Church of the United States (ECUS) on their action of consecrating and enthroning an openly homosexual bishop, Gene Robinson, in their Anglican communion," the House of Bishops said in a resolution.

The resolution, sent to AFP on Saturday, said the church in Uganda was ready to do the same with any other province that follows suit.

"We deplore, abhor and condemn in the strongest possible terms the resolution of ECUS to consecrate Robinson and all other resolutions related to the ordination of homosexuals and blessing of same-sex unions," said the resolution, signed by Anglican Church primate, Archbishop Livingstone Mpalanyi Nkoyoyo.

On November 2, Robinson became the first openly gay person to be consecrated bishop in the history of the Episcopal church.

In the run-up to his consecration, many bishops heading Anglican churches in parts of Africa, Asia and Latin America said they would not recognise a gay bishop in their churches and broke ties with the US affiliate.

"We want to make it crystal clear that the whole membership of the Church of Uganda uphold in full respect and faith the teachings of the holy scripture and that of our Lord Jesus Christ himself on human sexuality between male and female," the bishops' resolution said.

"We maintain that any same sex union is a disorder of God's creation," the bishops said, adding that the step taken by the church in the US has a negative consequence on the whole church.

"We pray that ECUS may revisit their decision on this matter," it added.

The Ugandan church said immediately after Robinson's consecration that it would sever relations with the US diocese of New Hampshire, the gay bishop's diocese, but not break ties with the whole of the US Episcopal Church, as some of its dioceses were opposed to the consecration of Robinson, a divorced father of two. - Sapa-AFP

[GrandmaPatriot]

Russians shun Episcopal Church.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1023890/posts

[1stFreedom]

>>That is without a doubt one of the most arrogant statements of religious elitism I have ever seen on FR
Elite? No. Elitism would be to say your religion sucks and mine is better.

My statement is a fact. Research the lineage of the Episcopalian church and you'll find that indeed that most of the Bishops DO NOT have apostolic lineage. Those who may have hedged their ordination do.

In terms of Christianity, apostolic lineage is no small matter.

[ahadams2]

to answer your question 'what about others' here are a few links with info

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1024991/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1026040/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1023815/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1016987/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1023664/posts

If you want more simply do a search on the Religion board for key words, ANGLICAN,ECUSA,APOSTASY,HERESY,HOMOSEXUAL,RESPONSE,

hope that helps,

[EGPWS]

In the run-up to his consecration, many bishops heading Anglican churches in parts of Africa, Asia and Latin America said they would not recognise a gay bishop in their churches and broke ties with the US affiliate.

Well, at least some understand the importance of Dogma, sadly enough however, they weren't in the USA where all right and wrong must be considered "gray" and "black and white" is not tolerated.

[Veritas_est]

In terms of this Christians Christianity apostalic lineage means absolutely nothing.

[George from New England]

Low blow. It maybe funny, but is much more hateful.

[1stFreedom]

>>In terms of this Christians Christianity apostalic lineage means absolutely nothing.

That is because you do not belong to a Christian Church. You belong to a Protestant "daughter" of the Christian church.

Christianity has ALWAYS recognized apostolic lineage. Protestantism has to various degrees. Fundamentalism doesn't recognize it at all. But fundamentalism is not Christianity but a "perversion" of it.

Prove to me that historic Christianity holds your view that apostolic lineage means absolutely nothing, and I'll admit that it means nothing and in fact is not a Christian belief.

[Veritas_est]

A very long winded lack of commital to anything substantial.

[stands2reason]

I never knew that some Catholics consider themselves the only "true Christians" till I came to FR....

[Veritas_est]

Elitism. Any way you slice it.

[dangus]

A little, totally unrelated WTF on this:

The name of the heretical church is ECUSA, not ECUS. It pisses me off the way everyone now forgets we're the USA, not the US, but are the Africans now denying people the right to determine their name?

[Gone_Postal]

The world's goal is to be politically correct and not to offend anyone. The
truth in God's Word is highly offensive to many because it lays out clearly
what is right and what is wrong, and those living in rebellion to God are
then reminded that the free will choices they have made are not in God's
will. I guess my question for you today is, are you more concerned with
pleasing the world, or pleasing God?????

[stands2reason]

Show me the bible verse on "apostolic lineage".

[Servant of the 9]

Maybe you should stop pointing the finger at other Christian communions. You guys have plenty of problems of your own, not the least of which is that many of your own co-religionists worldwide are in the process of disfellowshipping you.

At least our fag Priests and Bishops seem to stick to buggering adults.

I don't think 'disfellowshipping' is a word.
If it is, it shouldn't be.

So9

[dangus]

HEY, THAT'S A LOUSY CHEAP SHOT! You know, a lot of Catholics have been standing up for the Anglicans. But it's nice to know we can always count on a good cheap kick to the nuts. I'd rather be in a church that is *scandalized* by queers than one that promotes them to bishop.

And don't think that apostate who chuckled with you makes your venom any less poisonous or evil!

[1stFreedom]

I don't mean to sound harsh, but it's time that we stop calling every religion under the sun that claims to be Christian a "Christian" religion.

Christianity has a history of belief which can be found throughout through two millenium. In other words, if you think what you believe is Christian, find historic proof that your belief has in fact, been a very long held belief. And I'm not talking about the last five hundred years either. And no, I'm not talking about heresies or schism which may be similiar to protestism. I'm talking unbroken belief.

If you can't find historic proof which spans both millineums, then you really can't call what you believe a Christian belief. It is a protestant belief invented by man (or derived/perverted by man from historic Christianity).

Please do not refer to your beliefs as Christian. They are protestant, not Christian.

That does not however, mean that there can't be ecuminism. Christ will work through all of us.

[stands2reason]

Africans now denying people the right to determine their name?

Yes, you are exactly right. The Africans have decided that you are the ECUS. And forever it shall remain. Just because they SAID so. It wasn't a mistake on their part, they knew exactly what they were doing. This is way more important than an openly gay bishop. I'm glad you brought it up.

DOWN WITH AFRICAN IMPERIALISM!!!

There. I hope that makes you feel better.

[dangus]

If that's your attitude, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out!

[VRWC_minion]

May be long winded but you can see where "they" are appending their new gospel.

As Jesus told his disciples in the Gospel of John: “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth…He will take what is mine and declare it to you.”

But he totally ignores that the spirit did come and inspired Paul to write his letters.

[dangus]

>> At least our fag Priests and Bishops seem to stick to buggering adults.

Seems to me I've heard of quite a few Anglicans getting arrested for buggering tots. Which is something since there's so dang few of you left!