To: armadale
Hey,
I am confused too....
She coulda had sex 10 minutes before she she walked into Kobe's room...
and yes folks,
~~GASTHP!~~
she STILL could have been raped.
WHY is this a crime where the victim has to prove innocence.
Geez,
Sometimes I feel like I am sitting with the Taliban on these threads.
Ladies,
Pay close attention.
98 posted on
11/21/2003 1:11:25 PM PST by
najida
(Nope, this isn't breaking news either. Come back after dinner.)
To: najida
WHY is this a crime where the victim has to prove innocence?Bass-ackward, dear. She, by way of the prosecutor, must PROVE Kobe GUILTY.
107 posted on
11/21/2003 1:15:10 PM PST by
onyx
To: najida
If she had sex after the alleged rape, would that be evidence that maybe he didn't rape her? Or would you put forward the case that she was raped and then had sex less than 24 hours later with another man?
To: najida
You're right, but the key prosecution evidence is that she sustained injuries from Kobe that are only consistent with violent, non-consentual sex. If the defense can show that she had multiple sex partners shortly before her encounter with Kobe, there is no way they can prove that her injuries are the result of that encounter.
Pointing this out is not making a judgement about her character, but rather about the evidence that the D.A. has built his case around.
I really do not envy him right now--spending loads of taxpayer dollars on a case he has no chance of winning...
To: najida
WHY is this a crime where the victim has to prove innocence. Because Kobe, like OJ, like Mike Tyson, and like Bill Clinton have a cult following. The victims don't matter to the unwashed masses, only their star.
To: najida
She coulda had sex 10 minutes before she she walked into Kobe's room... and yes folks, ~~GASTHP!~~ she STILL could have been raped. Hear! Hear! She could have had sex with every single male in the freakin' hotel, the college team down the street, a few guys at a convention a couple hotels over, gone in to Kobe's room and STILL have been raped. Her sex life should really play no part in this trial at all, nor in the pre-trial publicity. She's no angel, but people who aren't on society's "good" list can be crime victims as well. The hoop jumping pretzel logic by the celebrity worshipers in here is somewhat stomach-turning.
Personally, I believe adultery should be punishable by castration, but hey, that's just me. Of course, Kobe could have shot her on national TV and some of the jock-sniffers in here would have twisted themselves into pretzels to defend him.
He may be guilty, he may be not guilty. The court will decide that. That is, after all, why we have trials. With luck, the judge will be a bit better at his or her job than Lance Ito. But guilty or not guilty, Kobe is by no means innocent. This "poor, poor Kobe, having his life ruined by some vicious slut" was not forced to whip it out and use it on her, in violation of his vows. And if the girl's sexual history is fair game, shouldn't his apparent willingness to lie to his wife, to God, and to anyone at his wedding be taken into consideration too? It might be good to remember that as this thread continues.
148 posted on
11/21/2003 1:31:13 PM PST by
Jokelahoma
(Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
To: najida
I agree. Rape is rape.
Sharing a bed is....well, weird....but it isn't rape.
To: najida
WHY is this a crime where the victim has to prove innocence. Why is this a crime where the defendant has prove innocence?
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