Bombshell: Kobe Accuser Had Sex with Key Witness

The Globe ^ | 11/20/03 | Globe

[Smogger]

A new bombshell revelation in the Kobe Bryant case threatens to destroy the credibility of the prosecution’s key witness - whose testimony could send the basketball superstar to jail for years. Sources told GLOBE that the 19-year-old woman who has accused Bryant of rape told them she had sex with the prosecution’s star witness Bobby Pietrack - a week before she met Bryant.

Pietrack, a 23-year-old bellhop at the resort where the alleged rape took place, is the first person Katelyn Faber told about her encounter with Bryant. He can testify about her emotional state and physical appearance at the time.

But legal experts tell us that if there was a sexual encounter between Katelyn and the bellhop, it could wreck his credibility and sink the case of the Eagle County, Colo., prosecutor.

For all the details of this blockbuster story, pick up the new issue of GLOBE.

[Sabertooth]

You queried on the other thread how this guy can be a witness. Because the finding of her blood on Bryant's shirt happens to back up her story, in addition to a he said/she said. And if in fact events transpired exactly as she said, and the bellman did in fact hear the story from her that night and so on, how can he not testify.

Mention her blood on Kobe Bryant's shirt, and you get:

No replies.

Freepers really want the truth on this thread. By the reasoning of some of them, a husband couldn't credibly testify if his wife was raped.

[Sabertooth]

The rules have been relaxed as her name and appearance are now common knowledge. At least for anyone who goes to the grocery store, 7-11, or uses the Internet. A victory for free speech IMHO.

A victory for rapists and their fans who want to intimidate witnewsses and smear vicitims.

Enjoy.

[nickcarraway]

they caught the D.C. sniper with the gun in his trunk, so I think that the initital perception of the case was much more realistically that of being beyond reasonable doubt than what we've seen so far with the Kobe Bryant case.

Wait, you were the one who said ``innocent until proven guilty,'' now you are talking about ``initial perception.'' Where do you ``initial perception'' in the constitution? Many people's initial perception is that Kobe Byant is guilty because they found his DNA, plus she was injured. There isn't even that much proof in most rape cases.

[Sabertooth]

I hate to break this to you, but no matter where you stand on this case, false rape allegations are OFTEN used to conceal either 1)some form of sexual contact that was NOT supposed to happen because of a relationship or what have you or 2) to extract oneself from trouble with the parents

Break it to me gently. Give me numbers.

What happens more often, rapes or false charges?

[Howlin]

But that was the story for a week.

That may be YOUR story for the first week, but it was never HIS story for the first week.

[nickcarraway]

Well, around here at Free Republic, Clinton was harshly criticized before the blue dress evidence turned up.

[technomage]

This girl's mother must want to KILL her, now!

I heard on talk radio (Hannity??) that the mother is a lawyer. Any verification of this?

[Sabertooth]

Kobe Bryant has violent back-entry sex with a woman -- even if she agreed to some early snuggling -- and he's still a hero.

What am I missing?

The jealousy many Freepers apparently feel that Kobe Bryant wasn't similary attentive to them.

[Howlin]

Kobe Bryant denied that he had sex with her for a week.

No, he did not; he told the police the very same day that he had committed adultery. Granted, he didn't come right out with it, but he told them during that first day's interviews.

[Sabertooth]

If she is sleeping with every Tom Dick and Harry, then you should be able to conclude that she just might sleep with every Kobe that came around as well.

Or every P-Marlowe?

"She's easy, she was sking for it, she wanted it," right?

You go, boy.

[GladesGuru]

Your argument seems to spin off into some level of paranoia. Since you are not chasing after "stars", where is the causality/reality behind your fears?

And please don't claim I am anti-gun. I'm not, my mother had a snub nosed .38, and lil' sister carries, too.

But I can't agree with your conclusions regarding the organic dog and the telescopic dog being needed because of societal orientations. Give Bowser a pat, keep the telescopic dog oiled, and consider that the reason for both is that some people are simply evil. Society has little or nothing to do with it.

[P-Marlowe]

so what is your point?

You are too blinded by your emotions to see it.

I thought freepers were prone to use logic over emotions and see through the NOW propaganda and other PC crap. I guess there are exceptions. You're one of them.

Try answering the following question instead of avoiding it and going off on irrelevant tangents:

How you expect Kobe to get a fair trial if this evidence of the "victim"'s sexual history is excluded? Is he just supposed to sit there and let her accuse him of rape, without being able to bring in evidence that she is the type who would likely have slept with him within 5 minutes of meeting him? Is that irrelevant?

Should the evidence that she was voluntarily playing tounge hockey with him 5 minutes after she met him be excluded? After all, that is evidence of her sexual history prior to the alleged rape, isn't it?

BTW you are now and official card carrying member of NOW.
Here's a button.

Wear it with pride.

[Skywalk]

I gave you two examples. There are other reasons for false allegations, which was the topic of my post.

If you want to draw me into some discussion of the absolute numbers of rapes vs. false charges, it's pointless.

Apparently, all one needs on this forum is to be accused. Guilt is assumed. Just look at the posts--"Even if she had sex with 10 million guys and tried to commit suicide and was a mental case, she STILL COULD HAVE BEEN RAPED!"

Well, duh. But a man that hasn't shown a history of violent sexual conduct should not be sent to jail on such a witness' testimony, should they?

[Rudder]

What happens more often, rapes or false charges?

What's hotter, the summer or the city?

Actually, it's pretty close to a tie.

False rape charges filed by acquaintances of the perp (as opposed to strangers) are rather high. Furthermore, these complainants have a commonality of being Dx with a personality disorder of the 'lively and dramatic' type.

[Sabertooth]

Yet you want to smear her to protect your sports "hero"

You must be very proud of yourself

It goes deeper than that. They're empathizing with the idol, fantasizing over a life of adultery and sexual entitlement without consequences, and without objection. Woe unto the uppity strumpet who doesn't know her place. Doesn't she know that that hole is for?

[Skywalk]

Or every P-Marlowe? "She's easy, she was sking for it, she wanted it," right? You go, boy. Don't be a prick, Sabertooth. According your past posts, no man is ever innocent of the charges against him, and no woman's honor or credibility have been sullied by her own conduct. You would willingly send innocent men to prison rape and the end of their freedom to satisfy some perverse sense of chivalry you THINK you possess.

[Pagey]

I bet 'Mr. Bryants Colorado Female Attorney' bought her entire firm dinner when she heard this.He still has to stand trial mind you.Innocent until proven guilty? OK. (With the exception of all of Bill Clinton's 8 years of hellish actions against America's interests of course.)

[aristeides]

I used to think that spending time on spectator sports was just a (morally neutral) waste of time. Over time, I'm becoming more and more persuaded that it's positively evil.

[P-Marlowe]

So would you exclude all evidence of the "victim's" sexual history in a case of date rape?

If you had picked up a girl and had consensual sex with her within 15 minutes of meeting her and two days later the cops came to your door with a warrant for your arrest for rape, how would you defend yourself?

Would you not claim that it was consensual? Would you not look for evidence that she consented to have sex with a lot of guys, guys who were -- if it were possible -- even uglier than you? Or would you trust that a jury would acquit you because you think you are more believable than her?

Tell me, if in fact Kobe is not guilty of rape, but is being set up and falsely accused -- it happens -- how should he defend himself?

[GladesGuru]

"its OK to fool around with all the women who throw themselves at sports figures."

By definition, if she throws herself at him, that's her (baaad) decision. If a female insists on trashing herself, it is not the role of the courts to convict of rape any male who commits consensual sex with a groupie.

Those who insist on acting the role of a slut can expect to be used as a slut. In the end, it boils down to this: Sluttiness ain't rape. And forget whatever the Feminazi rant de jour is - 'cause it isn't law, only a rant.