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Police find secret room in Michael Jackson raid
Extra TV ^ | 11/19/03 | Extra TV

Posted on 11/20/2003 3:29:24 PM PST by jimbo123

For 15 years, the Neverland ranch has been Michael Jackson's retreat from the world. But now, the walls are literally closing in on him. His fortune, his reputation, and his freedom are now at stake.

Now that a warrant is out for his arrest on multiple counts of sex abuse against a minor, Jackson's secret world is being exposed. And "Extra" is learning more dark secrets from behind the gates of Neverland.

At a stunning news conference, Santa Barbara sheriffs said they are in talks with Jackson's lawyers and negotiating for the international superstar to turn himself in.

Jackson family attorney Brian Oxman reveals to "Extra" what police found when they raided Jackson’s Neverland ranch. They found about one million pictures and thousands of videotapes, but Oxman insists that they are all innocent. He says, "They are looking at things which are the history of Michael Jackson. I don’t really think they know what they are looking for."

But "Extra" has learned about something else that police may have found at Neverland-- a secret room hidden behind the star's walk-in closet. It is a place few have seen because in it are photographs of bare-chested children, babies, toys, games, and even an autographed picture of actor Macauley Culkin signed, "Don't leave me alone in the house."

Jackson has reportedly hired attorney Mark Geragos, who worked for of Winona Ryder and Scott Peterson, to represent him. Meantime, Jackson's people have complained that the raid was carried out on the same day that his greatest hits album "Number Ones" came out, insinuating it was a publicity ploy by police. But the DA shot that theory down.

The rumors have swirled around Jackson since 1993 when sexual allegation charges were reportedly settled out of court. Then came last year's infamous baby dangling incident, followed by Jackson's stunning admission in the controversial documentary hosted by Martin Bashir.

Lorenzo Benet, a staff correspondent for People magazine says that if Jackson loses custody of his three children, his ex-wife Debby Rowe might be the next logical person to take over.

Benet says, "Now Debbie has said in the past that she didn't really have these children to be a mother but legally she is the mother. So in that situation, I think that she would probably have first shot at getting the kids."


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KEYWORDS: hevotesdemocrat; homosexual; itscharming; michaeljackson; nambla; pederast; pedophile; perv
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To: jimbo123
But "Extra" has learned about something else that police may have found at Neverland-- a secret room hidden behind the star's walk-in closet. It is a place few have seen because in it are photographs of bare-chested children, babies, toys, games, and even an autographed picture of actor Macauley Culkin signed, "Don't leave me alone in the house."

As sorry as MJ may be, I don't think that the above is far off from describing what a 15 year collection of calendars from a pediatrician's office would show.

161 posted on 11/20/2003 8:56:48 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: FR_addict
Bravo! You said it all.

Jackson follows the NAMBLA handbook to a "T". He is a manipulative serial pedophile.

In another era, he would have been hanged in the public square.

162 posted on 11/20/2003 9:12:46 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Justa
Prosecutors will bring cases for the strangest reasons. A prosecutor may bring a case because it may politically dangerous NOT to bring the case. For some, it is better to lose to a jury than be crucified in the media.

That said, this prosecutor seems to be playing to the media instead of focusing of trying this case in court. Why is he sending emails of subpoena contents to reporters? dumb. It stupid manuvers like that which result in dismissals and surpression of evidence. It makes is denials of timing the execution of warrents subject to question.

The case may end up as botched as the criminal OJ trial.
163 posted on 11/20/2003 9:17:45 PM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: spectre
true these were homosexual acts.
164 posted on 11/20/2003 9:18:48 PM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: ER_in_OC,CA; ValerieUSA
I don't think so. I've seen Home Alone and Home Alone 2. Culkin would be the ultimate target for a pedophile, and if what I've read is correct, his parents were not protective of him, but primarily considered him to be their meal ticket.

I've been listening to talk radio driving in, and a lot of the hosts and callers are saying, "how could parents be stupid enough to let their kids stay with Michael Jackson?" I think most of them knew exactly what was going on, and were either getting direct payments from Jackson, or thought they could use the connections to make money in show business.

165 posted on 11/20/2003 9:20:56 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Richard Kimball
These people--the parents--are the lowest of the low, pimping their children to Michael Jackson.
166 posted on 11/20/2003 9:22:16 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Palladin
which will be an issue for the defense. this will be the set up argument. (ironically I remember an old case out of CF where a man got off a statutory rape charge because the parents were activly convincing the man that their daughter was over 18. The parents were trying to set the man up for an ultimate civil suit.)

The problem is that the kid was confessing things to their shrink not to the police or parents. CF may have a heresay exception on that since it was in an effort to recieve treatment. If the shrink reported the matter to the authorities, at the very least they could get in that the child said "something" and in response to "something" said by the child they reported acrime to the police. IOW what the shrink did in response.

167 posted on 11/20/2003 9:30:47 PM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: big ern
I read the other day where Jackson's father was talking about Michael and he said he used to call Michael by the name "Big Nose". I'm no Freud but there could be a clue in there somewhere.
168 posted on 11/20/2003 9:50:59 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Palladin
Good post. I agree.
169 posted on 11/20/2003 10:18:11 PM PST by WasDougsLamb
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To: autoresponder
Did you see this? #59
170 posted on 11/20/2003 10:24:14 PM PST by potlatch (1 cross + 3 nails = 4 given)
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To: marajade
From your link:

In a much-hyped British documentary set to air on American television Thursday, the 44-year-old pop star told interviewer Martin Bashir that he has opened his bed to Culkin, his brother Kieran and their sisters, as well as a 12-year-old cancer patient only identified as Gavin.

This was published last February. Hooboy.

171 posted on 11/20/2003 10:26:59 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: jimbo123; Hillary's Lovely Legs
Have you seen this one??

JACKO FLACKO
Jackson secretly hosting 3 Norwegian teen-agers?
Boys reportedly 3 weeks overdue, mother considers contacting government officials
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Posted: November 20, 2003
8:50 p.m. Eastern
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© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Pop star Michael Jackson, arrested today on child molestation charges, has been secretly hosting three teens from Norway at his Neverland Ranch in California, according to a Norwegian newspaper.

One of the mothers said she was waiting to hear from her son, and was considering calling Norway's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said the Aftenposten daily of Oslo, citing a report in another city newspaper, VG.

The trip was to have lasted for a week, but now is four weeks old.

Two of the youths were invited to California by Jackson's Norwegian-Pakistani friend Omer Bhatti, 19, according to VG.

Bhatti, of Oslo, was befriended by Jackson in 1996 after the pop star saw him standing outside his hotel in Tunis. The youth was dressed like Jackson and held a red rose in his hand, the Norwegian paper said.

Since then, Bhatti and his family have been frequent guests of Jackson's and was seen at the star's 45th birthday celebrations in Los Angeles.

VG's sources claim Jackson paid for the three teens to visit his ranch and kept the trip secret from all but their nearest family members.

One mother said she's not fretting too much.

"I have faith in the judgment of both Omer and my son," the mother told VG. "Besides, I don't believe all the claims and rumors about Michael Jackson, even if I have them in the back of my mind. I am more worried about the conduct of American police than I am about the claims against Michael Jackson."

Link on World Net Daily

172 posted on 11/20/2003 10:59:54 PM PST by lonevoice (Legal disclaimer: The above is MY OPINION)
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To: jimbo123
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173 posted on 11/21/2003 4:58:31 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Palladin
Jackson follows the NAMBLA handbook to a "T". He is a manipulative serial pedophile.

You've got that right!

They have one of the private investigators from the first case on Fox this morning. His name is Ernie Rizzo.

He explained how Michael's room connects to the children's room through the "secret room". He had interviewed maids who said they had not made the beds in the children's rooms in months. The children are evidently sleeping with Michael.

Rizzo also mentioned how Michael Jackson flaunts his pedophilia to the world and gets away with it. I couldn't beleive E.D. this morning. It seemed like she is being very naive in this case. Brian and Steve kept pointing out about the point that Michael admits to sleeping with minors. She ignores this point. I'm going to send her email Friends@foxnews.com

174 posted on 11/21/2003 6:28:05 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: lonevoice
One mother said she's not fretting too much.

"I have faith in the judgment of both Omer and my son," the mother told VG. "Besides, I don't believe all the claims and rumors about Michael Jackson, even if I have them in the back of my mind. I am more worried about the conduct of American police than I am about the claims against Michael Jackson."

Thanks for this post. I would have missed it. This mother would rather have a pedophile after her child than for them to have contact with the American police. If she was so worried about the American police, what was her son doing in America in the first place? What a stupid statement. This woman obviously has little regard for her child to make such an outrageous statement.

175 posted on 11/21/2003 6:33:05 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Skwidd

The clown-cyborg security squad takes these intrusions seriously.

176 posted on 11/21/2003 7:17:44 AM PST by Cvengr (0:^))
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To: jimbo123
MUST READ!

Too Graphic to Post! Read paragraph #5 from the Smoking Gun's copy of Michael's 1993 lawsuit.

Michael is a predator and Neverland is just a lure.

177 posted on 11/21/2003 7:25:40 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: who knows what evil?
I believe that the Hornet was played by VAN Williams.

VAN Williams???...

178 posted on 11/21/2003 7:26:10 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: longtermmemmory
>>>>If the shrink reported the matter to the authorities, at the very least they could get in that the child said "something" and in response to "something" said by the child they reported acrime to the police.

My husband is a psychiatrist. The are NOT allowed. The only thing they can do is commit a patient if they are a harm to themselves or others. They CAN'T report abuse, criminal activity, terrorism, NOTHING.

I don't agree with this. My husband doesn't even agree with this; but they will lose their license if they do.
179 posted on 11/21/2003 7:51:44 AM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: Calpernia
This is what troubles me..and doesn't quite make sense. MJ has tons of money - there are "tons' of places where he could play his games with little boys - countries where it's not considered illegal. Heck - he could buy an island somewhere and set up Neverland out of US jurisdiction. He also has TONS of employees. Can they ALL be enablers? Why haven't we heard about the "other" children he entertains coming forward with statements or telling their own parents, "I saw MJ do this with so and so", etc.

I heard on some tv station the comment that MJ mounted video throughout Neverland-put there because of the 1993 incident to protect himself. IMO, he appeared pretty upbeat and confident yesterday when leaving after being booked. Maybe these cameras are going to save his butt.

180 posted on 11/21/2003 9:51:58 AM PST by GYPSY286
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