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Ban all black power cannons submerged for over 100 years! This menace must be ended!


1 posted on 11/20/2003 9:53:54 AM PST by pabianice
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Note to self.... when on sinking battle ship; make sure you unload the cannons before seeking the life boats.
2 posted on 11/20/2003 9:58:46 AM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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I just can't get used to Black Barets on everyone.
3 posted on 11/20/2003 9:58:59 AM PST by BBell
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It was sunk by a mine during an expedition up the Yazoo...

I always wondered where that expression came from.

4 posted on 11/20/2003 10:01:39 AM PST by FreePaul
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I know of a man in the Corps of Engineers who foolishly used a burner to burn moss off of a solid shot from the C.S.S. Georgia wreck. The "shot" turned out to be a shell (whoops!) and he blew up his storage shed in his backyard, when it detonated. Luckily for him, he had gone inside for a beer, when it blew. Nobody got hurt, but he sure would have been a Darwin Award nominee, if he had been killed. He had to "explain" why he swiped an historical artifact, however.
5 posted on 11/20/2003 10:07:14 AM PST by You Gotta Be Kidding Me
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When I was in college (years and years ago in that far-off era known today as the hedonistic '70s), a handyman in Kinston, NC blew himself up with a Civil War shell. Apparently he assumed it was a solid shot cannonball and began drilling a hole in it to make a lamp out of it.

Oops. Bad move, Otis.

It was an explosive shell. The resultant heat and sparks ignited the dried and unstable powder, blew the back wall off the shop, and killed him dead.

6 posted on 11/20/2003 10:07:32 AM PST by Jonah Hex (If it wasn't for door-to-door salesmen, my dog would never get any exercise.)
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Geez--why not run a fiber optic image probe down the bore?? Who needs X-rays??
7 posted on 11/20/2003 10:08:33 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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Black powder, even once wet, will ignite if now dry and sparked. 140 years doesn't really make a difference unless their has been some kind of degeneration of the composition. I've been shooting like crazy for 30 years, been reloading cartridges most of that time, and have never heard of black powder going "dead". I don't suggest over reaction, but it might be smart to figure out how to safely "unload" those guns before some "Bart Simpson" type idiot kid throws a lit M-80 down one of those cannon barrels.
8 posted on 11/20/2003 10:16:05 AM PST by Lockbar
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Yankee cannons...let the yanks unload em....I'll stand over here.
9 posted on 11/20/2003 10:16:20 AM PST by Lee Heggy (When marriage is outlawed only outlaws will have inlaws)
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Our high school ROTC arranged a visit from a US Navy EOD Charleston SC unit. One of the EOD men told us that they used to drill out old canonballs and remove the powder. This made them inert so the finder could safely keep the cannonball. They said that some EOD people were killed doing that so they stopped. He said that now ( this was back in the 1970's ) they just destroy them like any other explosive. I don't think policy this had changed since then so it looks like they may end up blowing these up.

10 posted on 11/20/2003 10:20:33 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right-wing extremist neanderthals.)
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where is the anti gun hysteria in this article? This is a safety issue here. Black powder can remain active as long as its dry for a very long time as illustrated in some other posts above me.
11 posted on 11/20/2003 10:22:23 AM PST by holdmuhbeer
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Why is a women (who is supposed to be relegated by law to a non-combat role) trained to handle unexploded ordinance?
12 posted on 11/20/2003 10:36:21 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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You sank my battleship!
13 posted on 11/20/2003 10:44:33 AM PST by jjm2111
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About 11 years back a fellow with a backhoe was excavating a foundation for a new fellowship hall at a near by church. He came across what he thought was some old sewer
lines. He thought there was something strange about ‘em and called the cops.
The cops determined that they were civil war cannon and called the EOD team at Ft.Jackson, fortunately a police Lt. who was a reenactor called a local historian. He
contacted the State museum in Columbia and got a hands off order.
The museum didn’t have the funds to do anything about the guns and when we convinced the curator we were competent he allow us to take possession.
To make a long story short, all four guns had been booby trapped via multiple shells (they were 3’ confederate rifles) placed nose to nose in the tubes, it took ten years, countless hours of volunteer labor and donations to finally to ‘em where they belong.
Two were placed on steel carriages obtained from the Parks Service(Fredricksburg) by the good graces of Strum Thurman.
They are currently on public display in the town square in Chester SC, at the Chester County courthouse, one at the State museum in Columbia and the last was sleeved,placed on a period wooden carriage, and is the only original 3” Confederate Parrot gun inthe reenactment community.
And..... I was honored with being on the cannon crew when she was fired for the first time in 137 years... an’ that baby still has quite a bark!!!!
BTW....And YES.. the powder in the interior shells was as good as the day it came from the powder factory!!!
14 posted on 11/20/2003 10:52:18 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire with meetings, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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She said she had never been called to handle any similar material. “I would think very few people have,” she said.

My dad would be one of those people. He led a clean-up project in an East Coast city Army arsenal some time ago. He kept one Civil War cannonball as a souvenier. I've always been very careful in handling it, though.

15 posted on 11/20/2003 11:05:25 AM PST by Fudd
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Why not just move the ship and put it on permanent display in front of the UN building?
21 posted on 11/20/2003 3:44:52 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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