Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 19-23

Various | November 18, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

(Thread 9 - November 19-23) Link back to thread 8 (Nov. 14-18)

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Contained in Thread 8:

Contact info for Judge Greer and the 6th DCA, link to argument between Pat Anderson and Judge Greer, Judge Baird's predetermination of the case, timeline of Terri's case, statutes being violated (also here) in Terri's case, contact information for Bernie McCabe and Jay Wolfson ( link to a better address for Bernie McCabe), super contact list for Florida courts, legislature, Senate and Washington, link to Gov. Bush's amicus curiae brief, Responding to Patients in the Persistent Vegetative State , a Christian parspective, PC93's letter of complaint against Michael Schiavo to demand criminal investigation and more contact information, contact information for the Florida Committee on guardianship, testimony of Jackie Rhodes, interesting article Is Wife-icide Legal In Florida(?), contact information for investigative ops and judicial operations, transcript of the Hannity and Colmes interview with the Schindlers, links to transcripts of other shows on Terri's case, contact information for Fox News shows, address to send Terri's birthday cards and contact information for advocacy center investigating Terri's abuse and neglect.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

INDEX OF TERRI THREADS ON FR

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Latest threads on Terri's Case:

A "Painless" Death?

Was Terri Schiavo Beaten in 1990? (Nat Hentoff)

His Fight to Give Terri Schiavo Communion

Terri's family appeals to Oprah fans

Terri Schiavo's Fight

Court Issues New Stay in Schiavo Case

Judge calls Terri's Law intrusive

Mom kept hope for girl who came out of vegetative state

Hannity & Colmes Tonight - Monday, 11-17-03 - Terri Schindler-Schiavo's Parents

"Terri's Lights" Campaign Raises Awareness of Terri Schiavo's Plight

Catholic Media Coalition Declares November 30, 2003 "Theresa Schindler Schiavo Day"

Terri's dad: 'She's literally been a prisoner'

Husband's attorney seeks end to delays in Schiavo case

Terri's Threads on FreeRepublic.com - 18 Nov 2003 0351 PST

[nicmarlo]

I've been looking and looking but the only thing I can find is on NewsMax, and prolife sites, who are quoting NewsMax. But I did find this, dated August 2003, so it's clear that cremation plans were already in the works by MS (and I'm not finding any legal docs concerning this on the terri.org site, either).

United States District Court
Middle District of Florida
Tampa Division
Civil Action No.: 8:03-CV-1860-T-26-TGW

ROBERT SCHINDLER and MARY
SCHINDLER, as parents
and next friends of Theresa Marie
Schindler Schiavo, an
incompetent ward,

				Plaintiffs,

v.


MICHAEL SCHIAVO, individually
and in his capacity as Guardian
of the person of THERESA MARIE
SCHINDLER SCHIAVO,
an incompetent ward; HOSPICE
OF THE FLORIDA SUN
COAST, INC., and MORTON PLANT
HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION, INC.

			Defendants.
---------------------------------------------------x

                          VERIFIED AMENDED COMPLAINT 
                          __________________________

* * * D. Prohibiting Defendant Schiavo from ordering the cremation of the body of Theresa Marie Schiavo, should she die;

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The motion for cremation is most likely in the PROBATE case (not the above-captioned civil case), which I cannot access on the free account to the Pinellas County Courthouse public records site.

[nicmarlo]

Sorry, here's the link to what I just posted: VERIFIED AMENDED COMPLAINT

You need to scroll about 1/4 the way day to get to that document.

[nicmarlo]

see my post here: post #261 and here post #262

[Shortstop7]

need someone familiar with legalese to explain to me how Michael could be being denied access to the courts? What about Terri's denial of access to the courts?

I'm glad you asked this question.....! I was wondering the same thing............

[KDubRN]

Do this as well. That entire 6th circuit needs to reported and herrrre we go.
Baird, Greer, Demers, Davy Crocket, and the entire mess, for condoning abuse, neglect, and violation of 1st Amendment Rights of this Constitution of Teresa Marie Schiavo.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581

ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer and the rest of 6th circus. . This is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

[fiesti]

Crockett Farnell

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graduated Hillsborough High School, Tampa Floria 1957...member of football team (a guard)..nicknamed Cricket..his father was a well respected football coach for (sorry forgot) Crockett was member Junior Optimist 1,2,3;H Club 1,2,3;Football 1,2,3;Track 2;Baseball 2;F.F.A.1 (Future Farmers of America);Jolly Boys 2,3; President Jolly Boys 3,
Crockett how dare you call yourself a Terrier now???

[KDubRN]

Anybody with contacts in the Department of Justice?

Send away. I have been sending CC of nearly everything I send to them, as well as JEB.

AskDOJ@usdoj.gov

[Future Useless Eater]

can't somebody find a pic of jodi?? maybe even one from the school yearbook that all schools have

How's THIS ONE? I don't know who this is, but she was picking up Michael after some court appearance (photo snapped from the TV) (reference post #8 here)

Someone thought this might be attorney Deborah Bushnell, but I doubt it. Don't most attorneys pass the bar around age 25 or later? Deborah was admitted to the bar in 1980, so that would put "Debby death" at about 48 years old or more.

This thin blonde woman in the Subaru looked more 35-ish, and seemed to have a twinkle in her eye for Michael. Besides, why pay a lawyer $250 to drive you home when a taxi costs $10.

If this new 'honey' isn't Jodi, then I'd say Jodi has some competition.

Who knows what Deborah looks like?
Who knows what Jodi looks like?

[fiesti]

and yes I have already e-mailed davy crocket to read a riot act..........

[fiesti]

have seen this video many times on TV and have always wondered if Jodi..She appears to have a pair of shorts on so doubt if that would be a lawyer

[Future Useless Eater]

>>She appears to have a pair of shorts on so doubt if that would be a lawyer

No, if you replay it in slow motion, you briefly see she has
a nice tan skirt. Then you see someone wearing blue shorts.
That is Michael in the shorts.

[Future Useless Eater]

I thought Farnell reversed himself within the hour?

My head is spinning, whats this all about?

http://www.lifenews.com/bio150.html

[Chocolate Rose]

That is Michael in the shorts.


Some how I just don't think he well get to be one of the Chippendales.

[KDubRN]

She appears to have a pair of shorts on so doubt if that would be a lawyer

No, if you replay it in slow motion, you briefly see she has
a nice tan skirt. Then you see someone wearing blue shorts.
That is Michael in the shorts.

He/she looks like a guy to me

[KDubRN]

I thought Farnell reversed himself within the hour?

My head is spinning, whats this all about?

I contend the 6th circuit is either brain dead or half-wits

[Future Useless Eater]

>>looks like a guy to me

with skirt, necklace, & ear rings I believe

[KDubRN]

http://zimp.org/documents/

[sweetliberty]

Look at that arm. It is hardly more than a skeleton.

[Ohioan from Florida]

So far the best I can come up with is an actual date for the petition to authorize Terri's cremation. From terrisfight.org on the timeline, MS petitioned the court on Oct.2, 2002. Now that we know the date, maybe we can find some actual documentation. I've checked the archives of the SPTimes to no avail. Still seeing if I can find where Greer has approved it (since by Oct.15 I'm sure he would have had to approve or deny the request). I'm thinking that maybe he did sometime in mid-Sept, but I still can't find it. Also, I put in the question to Pam Hennessey at Terri's Fight. Hopefully I'll hear a response in a reasonable amount of time, but I'm sure they have a zillion other things to do. But, hey, you don't get what you don't ask for, right?

[wisconsinconservative]

Judge Denies Michael's Bid to Block New Info on Potential Abuse of Terri Schiavo

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
November20, 2003

Pinellas Park, FL (LifeNews.com) -- A judge rejected an attempt by Michael Schiavo to block the discovery of new information that could be used to replace him as guardian. Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, hope new information can be gathered to prove whether or not Terri was a victim of physical abuse that led to her collapse.

The Schindlers have filed a lawsuit seeking to remove Michael, terri's estranged husband, as her guardian and replace him with her brother Bob Schindler, Jr.

They are hoping to uncover new information pointing to the need to change guardianship -- including questioning the radiologist who conducted a bone scan on Terri in March 1991 that showed she was possibly a victim of physical abuse.

Attorneys for Michael, including assisted suicide advocate George Felos and the ACLU, filed a motion to stay all discovery of new information in the Schindler v. Schiavo lawsuit. They claimed allowing discovery to proceed would prevent Michael's access to the courts.

"This attempt by Michael Schiavo's lawyers to thwart the discovery of important and previously undiscovered evidence speaks volumes," said Pat Anderson, attorney for the Schindler family. "They appear to be scared of the truth coming out."

Sixth District Circuit Court Judge Crockett Farnell granted the stay without a hearing and ordered that "none of the parties to this case shall engage in any actions, including discovery, until after Judge George Greer has ruled on the Fourth Motion to Disqualify Judge."

The Schindlers have filed another motion to dismiss Judge Greer as the lead judge in the case.

They say Greer, who approved the order to remove Terri's feeding tube, has been colluding with Felos and appointed an "impartial" doctor to assess Terri's condition whose brother had previously worked with Felos.

Amazingly, Farnell reversed himself only a short time later.

Farnell conducted an emergency hearing less than an hour after issuing his first order where he vacated his previously issued stay of discovery.

Anderson argued that the motion to dismiss Greer should have no bearing on the case to have Michael removed from guardianship.

"Today's actions prove that every attempt is being made to delay proceedings in this case and hasten Terri's death," Anderson added. "However, we will continue to fight for Terri's life and make sure that all of the facts in this case are fully explored."

Related web sites:
Terri's family -- http://www.terrisfight.org