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US Constitutiona Amendment to Save Marriage...NOW!
Self | 11-18-03 | Always Right

Posted on 11/18/2003 7:28:05 AM PST by Always Right

Now that the Mass. Supreme Court has acted to force the legislature to adopt gay marriage, the time is now for Republicans to act to save this most basic institution of this country. We need a US Constitutional Amendment to save us from activist courts who assult religion and basic family values. The public will be outraged over this and the GOP must capitolize on it. The GOP must put the Democrats in a bind. Oppose the Amendment and lose their base, or support it and expose themselves as the radicals they are.

Now is the time to act. Put this issue at the forefront for the next election. Don't just make it an issue, make it a real topic with real Amendments that are gonna be passed.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: evil; family; gaymarriage; godsjudgement; homosexualagenda; marriage; marriageamendment; notnatural; notnormal; protectmarriage; redefiningmarriage; romans1
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To: freetradenotfree
Is Justice Margaret Marshall a U.S Citizens?

Yes, since 1978. (Unfortunately.)

81 posted on 11/18/2003 10:13:19 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Always Right
Any word on what President Bush has to say about this abominable decision?

I heard that the state's Republican Governor Mitt Romney condemned the decision, saying marriage should only be between a man and a woman.
82 posted on 11/18/2003 10:13:49 AM PST by No Dems 2004
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To: familyofman
Just add your ammendments here, it will make you feel better. Even though none of them will pass - this is free therapy for anger management. If the ammendments don't make it - hold your breath until everyone agrees to do things your way.

1. This has a real possibility to pass.
2. This puts the issue on the table and forces people to take a very public stand on the issue.
3. This issue is supported by some 80% of the population, but Dems can't support it without alienating their base.
4. The actual passage is not as important as increasing our lead in the Senate and retaining the Presidency, thereby getting a majority of judges who won't do this crap.

This isn't some wildly fanatic thing to do. Besides making moral sense, it is a calculated political step to out the Dems as way way way out of the mainstream.

83 posted on 11/18/2003 10:14:28 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Belial
Ya know we could argue and argue but what good would it do

You obviously have decided not to accept that Jesus is really who he saids he is,or the true of Scripture therefore you will never understand the spiritual implications and consequences of same sex marriage on this culture or country

Hope someday you let go of your god of logic and science
It has no power to save

84 posted on 11/18/2003 10:15:20 AM PST by apackof2 (Watch and pray till you see Him coming, no one knows the hour or the day)
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To: No Dems 2004
Any word on what President Bush has to say about this abominable decision?

Bush has been waiting for the decision before attacking the whole gay marriage issue. Bush will either support a Constitutional Amendment or at least some legislation to codify marriage.

85 posted on 11/18/2003 10:16:57 AM PST by Always Right
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To: WOSG
Why would you wierdly change 500 years of legal history just to get around the awkwardness of "gay marriage"?

It is not just a little awkwardness. Our government is not able, for one reason or another, to grant special rights and responsibilities to one group of people and deny them to others. It will default to the position of inclusiveness. Therefore any government definition of marriage will inevitably include gay marriage.

It is simply none of the government's business.

86 posted on 11/18/2003 10:23:41 AM PST by gridlock (Countdown to Hillary!: ONE day... Hillary! will announce for President TOMORROW, Weds. Nov 19, 2003)
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To: Always Right
Well, this whole thing should be a real rally cry for all Christian and conservative-minded people. It's comforting to see that there isn't a total green light in MA's state government for this, but it still is a terrible decision.

I think this could really help a lot of level-headed US senators get elected next year (currently, I don't think we have enough support to get the FMA passed, especially in the US Senate - but that could change and fast)
87 posted on 11/18/2003 10:24:47 AM PST by No Dems 2004
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To: Always Right
It seems like people have fallen into the trap of thinking that the only way to solve judicial fiat is to change the founding documents. The people of California had a solution for judicial fiat, the same solution we had for the fiat by the former Governor. It is called a recall.

This is, as everyone is fond of repeating, a liberal state. Yet when the California Supreme Court used its power to effectively end the death penalty in California, the people stood up and kicked the responsible parties out of their judicial robes.

If anything, the only modification needed in Massachusetts is the implimentation of recall legislation that would also affect the judicial branch.

As for modifying the Constitution of the United States to outline what every dictionary already defines I think that is not needed. Instead, we should regain control of our courts. Impeach the federal judges who are using their seats on the bench to write laws instead of interpreting them.
88 posted on 11/18/2003 10:32:59 AM PST by kingu (Gay marriage is not an oxymoron.. All marriages should be happy. Homosexuals shouldn't be married.)
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To: WOSG
"IMHO, there is another solution: Throw the bums out in Massachusetts who let this abomination against their own Constitution happen. Starting with Ted Kennedy on down."

"Where does the Congress have the power to overrule the mass supreme court?"

The Mass. constitution has a remedy for this but this will take an extraordinary amount of public pressure. You don't need a new amendment to do this. Hell, Mass can't even remove Ted Kennedy, what makes you think Mass will remove a justice? You get what you deserve. All I can say is good luck.

89 posted on 11/18/2003 10:35:18 AM PST by rudypoot
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To: Grut
I can see the Christian Viciousness movement flogging this particular dead horse...

WOW!!! What a vicious, hateful, thing to say about Christians.

90 posted on 11/18/2003 10:35:58 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: No Dems 2004
I think this could really help a lot of level-headed US senators get elected next year

89% of the American people are on our side. Gay rights has been acceptable to many until now, but it's getting too close to their own back yard! NOW they're starting to feel the horrors of demonic incrementalism. It's comming for them, too. They know, deep in their subconscience minds, their sons are the next targets.
The Lord works in strange ways sometimes.

92 posted on 11/18/2003 10:38:18 AM PST by concerned about politics ( So it is. Amen.)
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To: WOSG
As I do not care for feminists, I do not care for homos, and also do not care for marriage as a way to regulate sex between men and women.
93 posted on 11/18/2003 10:40:03 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: concerned about politics
NOW they're starting to feel the horrors of demonic incrementalism. It's comming for them, too. They know, deep in their subconscience minds, their sons are the next targets.



You got that right bunky, i've been harping on this and a few other issues as slowly creeping along for years. problem is, once they understand the issue and see the grave nature of it... THEY STILL DON'T VOTE.
94 posted on 11/18/2003 10:41:38 AM PST by richtig_faust
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To: TakomaParkLiberal
Allowing people who are born gay to lead normal lives is not evidence of lack of morals.

"Born Gay" is Marxist propaganda. They're vile perverts, nothing more.
In the past, they were confined to mental institutions to protect the innocent. Some touchie feelie let them out. They thought they could be rehabilitated and placed back into society. They were wrong. It's too bad they can't see the damage they've done to society by their ignorant mistake.

95 posted on 11/18/2003 10:43:36 AM PST by concerned about politics ( So it is. Amen.)
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To: All
Yippie!!!!
I am thrilled about this decision. Both my son and my daughter are Gay. I didn't make them that way they both were brought up Lutheran completing their grade school years in a Lutheran School.

Wether you believe it or not gays are just plain born gay. It is not a choice nor a lifestyle. Look, do you choose a "hetrosexual lifestyle" or are you just pain old heterosexual because that is how you were born? Neither of my kids were "molested" in any way in their lives which resulted in them turning out gay. That is a fallicy that hetrosexuals like to promote to make it seem like being gay is being damamged. It isn't.

This is the era for Gay rights, the same rights that blacks won in the civil war and again in the 1960's. We have progressed as a nation, from slavery, to womens right to vote, to the Civil Rights era, too protection for Americans with Disabilities. NOW is the era where gays will have their civil rights just like anybody else.

Hey I don't look in your bedroom windows at night to see what you are doing, stay out of my kid's bedrooms and lives. Next you will be wanting them to drink from another drinking fountain and sit on the back fo the bus.

My daughter is a teacher and her partner is a physician and they wnat to get married. They are not huring you no more than the interacial couple down the street.

Don't force your religion and beliefes on others. This is a free country and if two people Love each other and want to marry it should be no concern of yours if they are male/male, female/female, or male/female. Love is what counts. And I see more love and compassion in them for humaity than I see in a lot of you via reading your posts.

It is no wonder you don't see very many Blacks in the republican party, you see even less gays. Pretty soon you are going to figure out that your opinion is a minority opinion.

Signed - A mother with Gay Pride.
97 posted on 11/18/2003 10:45:47 AM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: Always Right
Fags keep pushing their agenda through intimidation, specially of the left. I guess this is going to workout for the Republicans. The majority of our population are not fags, and are aware of fags great influence on the Democrats. Hence, it is a plus for us to have the fags keep pressing the left for in-your-face agenda.
98 posted on 11/18/2003 10:47:26 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: TakomaParkLiberal
My marriage isn't threatened by other people getting married.

Yes it is. You just don't know it yet. You have become them. You have cursed yourself.
Because of your support for the abomination, it will be. Those who live with sin will die with sin. What you sow so shall you reap.

So it is.

99 posted on 11/18/2003 10:48:37 AM PST by concerned about politics ( So it is. Amen.)
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To: TakomaParkLiberal
Better evidence of our lack of morals is our willingness to go to war on a pre-emptive basis with flimsy (and now proven wrong) evidence. Allowing people who are born gay to lead normal lives is not evidence of lack of morals.

We have a newbie troll. I am glad you have no problems with the some 300,000 Iraqi's who are buried in mass graves at the hands of Saddam's regime, or the direct links that are being undercovered between Saddam and bin Laden. You must be really depressed one of the most brutal terrorist-supporting dictactors is no longer in power. And I am glad you hold your humanist religious belief that gays/pedophiles/beastility/place your fetish here are 'born' that way, despite no scientific basis for such a silly claim. Like any behavior genetics, environment, and ultimately personal choice all have a role.

100 posted on 11/18/2003 10:49:28 AM PST by Always Right
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