Mass. Supreme Court Rules - Gay Couples have the Right to Marry

FoxNews | 11-18-03 | FoxNews

[Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh]

Mass. Supreme Court rules that illegal for state to deny marriage license to gay couples.

[Quick1]

Someone was telling me last night that Christians weren't allowed to marry at all until about 900 AD, when some Pope decided that the only way he could fight Crusades was to have his followers making babies.

I haven't found a good link on it, but I thought it was interesting, and something I didn't know before.

[pogo101]

THe only reason the state has any interest in heterosexual marriage is because offspring can be produced through normal and natural activity.. this is not the case with homosexual relationships so there is absolutely no reason for the state to sanction or care about these individual relationships

So why should states sanction any heterosexual marriage involving a couple who demonstrably cannot reproduce, such as one in which the woman is post-menopausal or the man infertile?

[freetradenotfree]

who are they Mass. Supreme Court names please

[PBRSTREETGANG]

See post #336

[longtermmemmory]

I suggest we focus our attention on the Federal Marriage Amendment. This will take the issue of marriage OUT of the courts hands.

Amending the Constitution is a valid tool to correct the actions of the courts. This is no longer a state issue, this is now a federal issue. See above link for members of Amendment subcommittee. at http://www.house.gov

[longtermmemmory]

don't think that is correct.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Someone was telling me last night that Christians weren't allowed to marry at all until about 900 AD...

Were you at a bar?

[maryz]

He cited an incident in which Ms. Marshall, while at Harvard, chastised a professor who had used university stationery for a personal note with an anti-abortion message.

The professor referred to, IIRC, was Mary Anne Glendon (writes for and is, I think, on the editorial board of First Things).

[Koblenz]

Statistically, Homosexual couples have the highest rates of domestic violence in the household.

But doesn't 100% of all domestic violence occur in the household? Because otherwise, it wouldn't be domestic.

[goldstategop]

Good news! The politicians will not have to take a stand on marriage and the family. The Bay State Supremes are singing O Canada!

[Rutles4Ever]

"I now pronounce you, man and horse..."

[goldstategop]

This MA Supreme Court decision allows domestic partnerships a la Vermont. Even liberals know going Canada all the way now would backfire on them big time.

[conserv13]

I see your point, but men and women are going to get married, live together, and raise children together whether the government recognizes it or not. I don't think gay marriage trivializes the institution of marriage, but I think divorce does.

A lot of people in general and especially on FR get SO worked up over gay 'marriage', and I honestly can't see why, when I think divorce and single parent (or no parent) families are a much bigger problem.

[international american]

I left Mass. in 1976.....never looked back. Good luck wherever you are going, it can only get better:)
IA

[Celtjew Libertarian]

I see your point, but men and women are going to get married, live together, and raise children together whether the government recognizes it or not. I don't think gay marriage trivializes the institution of marriage, but I think divorce does.

Amen.

[fiscally_right]

Marriage shouldn't be a legal term at all.. The state shouldn't be in the business of deciding who is married and who isn't. And it shouldn't offer benefits or penalties to married couples.

[RckyRaCoCo]

[Quick1]

Yeah, I've been looking and I've found absolutely nothing on that. I think I'll call him a dumbass when I see him today. ;)

I did find out that having multiple wives and mistresses was quite a common practice in the early Catholic church, however. Interesting.

[conserv13]

I think you are right that many gays were confused about their sexualtiy at an early age, and I think that many were sexually abused by older men and women. I don't think that is recruiting, though, I think it is sexual abuse.

[FormerLib]

Also in their ruling: Up is down, less is more!