Mass. Supreme Court Rules - Gay Couples have the Right to Marry

FoxNews | 11-18-03 | FoxNews

[Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh]

Mass. Supreme Court rules that illegal for state to deny marriage license to gay couples.

[cajungirl]

Let's see. Noone will be forced into gay marriage. Heterosexuals can still get married in high states with the entire family, preacher or priest, etc. In Louisiana people can have Covenant marriages. Animals, children and washing machines are safe, for now. I think little will change with this, gay people alreadly live together, openly, move in society, hold jobs and in many states get benefits from employers. We will of course be seeing Modern Bride with all sorts of gay marriage ideas, fashion, etc. But that doesn't seem so major. And I am sure that for every gay person lusting after my minor grandchildren, there is an equally alarming heterosexual lusting after the same child. Who in heck is impregnating all those 12 and 13 year old girls? It is not gay men. Predators on children are heterosexual and homosexual. Gay marriage won't change or iincrease that.

[Reborn]

The more you have social experience around other types of people, the more you realize that it's not that big a deal.

Yeah, you're right. I mean, after all, can a big ol' burly guy that doesn't know happiness unless he is allowed to fulfill his manly desires with your 7 year old CHILD be so very bad since he "holds a job and pays his bills"? Let's approve his "lifestyle" too. And if we need more "social experience around other types of people" then let us empty our mental institutions and prisons also. If you find that you're having a hard time dealing with the murderer who has YOU in mind as his next victim, then just remember that it's "no big deal". /sarcasm off/

[conserv13]

I agree. Thanks.

[N3WBI3]

These judges must answer to a higher court, and I am not talking about SCOTUS

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Any substantive answer to the "rational basis" question or is this little demonstration of being anal all you've got?

I'm with you. I strenuously object to anal demonstrations on threads dealing with homosexuality.

[MineralMan]

"A piece of paper issued by some government employee doesn't make you married. Promises made before and to God make you married. The rest is just politics."

Actually, that is incorrect. It is the recording of your marriage at your local courthouse that validates the marriage. Marriage has always been regulated by government.

A single example should be sufficient: Both my wife and I are atheists. We are married, and have all the rights of a married couple. Our marriage was performed in a courthouse by a judge. We had no need of any religious confirmation of our marriage.

Marriage is a civil matter. If you want a religious confirmation of your marriage, that is your choice, but it is not necessary.

[I still care]

Didn't a court in another state rule that a lesbian could not have committed adultery with another woman? So if two lesbians cannot have sex (remember Bill Clinton insisted oral sex was not sexual relations), how can two lesbians consummate a marriage? The whole thing is ridiculous.

[cajungirl]

I don't use vulgar words when talking about heterosexual acts. And BTW the moderator removed the post, so someone agrees with me.

[jimt]

How about three women or four men? Two men and a woman?
How about two women and a dog? How about three men and a sheep? It could be endless!

Your logic parallels my own. If we're redefining marriage, there's no reason to restrict it to two persons. It should be any number of any entity, or we're discriminating. I can't see it any other way.

[little jeremiah]

Calling people "bigots" who object to the normalization of same sex behavior by judical activism is typical "gayspeak". I know a lot because I educate myself. If you are not actually a "gay" activist, I suggest you educate yourself too. There's tons of information on FR, read it.

[Clemenza]

Mark my wors: New Jersey is next...

[ken5050]

Always meaningful to ponder that this country is divided into basically two groups...one group is in favor of gay marriage, aboretion, and against the death penalty..the other group holds the opposite views.....

[NYer]

the point is that marriage is first and foremost an institution of religion

Dwight Longenecker, an American author now living in Great Britain, has written an excellent article on this topic. In it, he analyzes the current situation in the Anglican church. He points out ...

"Archbishop Williams’ own views are outlined in a paper called The Body’s Grace which was originally delivered as an address in 1989. It is now part of a series of essays collected in Theology and Sexuality (ed. Eugene Rogers, Blackwells 2002). In his essay Dr Williams argues that ‘good sex’ is simply the sort where each partner desires their own arousal to generate a mutual arousal in their partner. The absence of any desire for this mutual arousal is why rape, paedophilia and bestiality are "bad sex.” The Archbishop then argues that biblical Christianity endorses this understanding of sex. He says that God's intention is that sexual experience should help us understand that our needs can only be met by giving to others. "

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[Gottwnz]

LOL, good one, i was going to say they throw s*** like monkeys , but i like yours better.

[conserv13]

The only way to stop this is to get government OUT of marriage.

[rintense]

But don't you see? There are many, MANY who would be put the recognition of a government over that of God- any God.

[ArGee]

I live in New York and there are tons of normal gay people around, at work, in my apt building, etc.

They are not normal if they are gay. If you could get them to accept counselling for their gayness they would be happier as heterosexuals.

Shalom.

[conserv13]

Take Government out of all marriage