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Sons I gave birth to are 'unrelated' to me
The Telegraph ^ | November 13, 2003 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 11/17/2003 10:20:10 AM PST by NYer

One human chimera came to light when a 52-year-old woman demanded an explanation from doctors after tests showed that two of her three grown-up sons were biologically unrelated to her.

Although the woman, "Jane", conceived them naturally with her husband, tests to see if she could donate a kidney suggested that somehow she had given birth to somebody else's children.

A study in the New England Journal of Medicine by Dr Margot Kruskall, of the Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Centre in Boston, Massachusetts, showed that Jane is a chimera, a mixture of two individuals - non-identical twin sisters - whose cells intermingled in the womb and grew into a single body.

Dr Kruskall believes the most likely explanation is that Jane's mother conceived non-identical twin girls, who fused at an early stage of the pregnancy to form a single embryo, according to a report published today in New Scientist.

For some reason, cells from only one twin dominate in Jane's blood - used for tissue-typing. In her other tissues, however, including her ovaries, cells of both twins live amicably alongside each other, hence the apparently impossible genetics of her three sons.

One son came from an egg derived from the twin whose cells dominate Jane's blood, while his brothers came from eggs derived from the other twin's cells.

Around 30 similar instances of chimerism have been reported, and there are probably many more who will never discover their unusual origins. Most chimeras probably go through life unaware of their unusual constitution.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ccrm; chimera; chimerism; genes; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; tetragametic; twin
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Comment #101 Removed by Moderator

To: MHGinTN; seamole
Well, this woman had both kind of ovules, so I don't see why a man couldn't have both strands of DNA--each kind of sperm--in his semen.

So I guess you could end up with a false negative. It would be pretty rare, though...we need to know how rare.

102 posted on 11/17/2003 3:51:14 PM PST by stands2reason (What you see at fight club is a generation of men raised by women. ~Chuck Palahniuk)
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To: MineralMan
Slow down, I never questioned whether "human chimeras" are a real phenomenon.

My point was entirely on the topic of whether her sons are "biologically related"

104 posted on 11/17/2003 4:03:43 PM PST by Lloyd227
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To: MHGinTN
Fascinating. Thanks for the heads up. Here is what the NEJM has to say in one article:

Chimerism, the presence of two genetically distinct cell lines in an organism, either is acquired through the infusion of allogeneic hematopoietic cells during transplantation1 or transfusion2 or is inherited. In fraternal twins, chimerism occurs by means of blood-vessel anastomoses. A less common cause of congenital chimerism — so-called tetragametic chimerism — occurs through the fertilization of two ova by two spermatozoa, followed by the fusion of the zygotes and the development of an organism with intermingled cell lines.3 Examples have been found in mice4 and other mammalian species,5,6,7 including humans.8.

105 posted on 11/17/2003 4:24:39 PM PST by RJCogburn ("You have my thanks and, with certain reservations, my respect.".......Lawyer J. Noble Daggett)
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To: BossLady
Very weird! bump
106 posted on 11/17/2003 6:16:13 PM PST by vikingchick
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To: Trident/Delta
Soooo... Hildebeast is a Chimera????.....

Oops, my bad....in her case it is the head of a serpent, body of a goat and tail of a lion... what do they call that "mythology"????

And the legs of a hippo...

107 posted on 11/17/2003 6:23:05 PM PST by null and void (Lord Hildamort!™ - She Who Must Not Be Named)
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To: MHGinTN
"Could you check me on this reply? Thanks"

Not me. Biology is icky and complicated. I always skip the biology ones in Scientific American. I'm only smart enuf to do rocket science!

--Boris

108 posted on 11/17/2003 6:23:06 PM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: Trident/Delta
Although the phrase "lungeing rinocerous thighs" cones to mind...
109 posted on 11/17/2003 6:24:00 PM PST by null and void (Lord Hildamort!™ - She Who Must Not Be Named)
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To: NYer
I heard this on the radio Friday, and was dumbfounded. When I told my mom, she thought I was looney.

I'm glad to see I wasn't completely out of my head hearing this.

110 posted on 11/17/2003 6:26:40 PM PST by Maigrey (Voting Member of the Rick Santorum Fan Club!)
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To: MineralMan
If you google, you will find an article in Nature, and something else. I read them after hearing about this on the local radio station.

It's really fascinating.

111 posted on 11/17/2003 6:27:57 PM PST by Maigrey (Voting Member of the Rick Santorum Fan Club!)
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To: _Jim
Ping, for the true view...
112 posted on 11/17/2003 6:30:08 PM PST by null and void (Lord Hildamort!™ - She Who Must Not Be Named)
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To: PatrickHenry
Bookmark
113 posted on 11/17/2003 6:42:22 PM PST by Maigrey (Voting Member of the Rick Santorum Fan Club!)
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To: NYer
the doctor told her she would require surgery to remove a gill that had not dissolved during her fetal development.

Sorry but that theory was disproven a long time ago.

114 posted on 11/17/2003 6:58:36 PM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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To: stuartcr
"Why?"

Because He said.

115 posted on 11/18/2003 2:07:53 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: MEGoody
Because....is a good answer?
116 posted on 11/18/2003 5:37:14 PM PST by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr
"Because....is a good answer?"

My answer wasn't "Because". It was "Because He said."

117 posted on 11/19/2003 7:01:36 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: MEGoody
I still don't know how you figured it was He, instead of ...'because God said'..?
118 posted on 11/19/2003 7:44:45 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr
"I still don't know how you figured it was He, instead of ...'because God said'..?"

Let me restate my response.

Because HE said.

I'm not sure why you are having a hard time grasping this.

119 posted on 11/19/2003 8:31:16 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: MEGoody
Because I can't grasp the idea that God has a sex
120 posted on 11/19/2003 8:37:20 AM PST by stuartcr
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