Why Six Days? (Six Days of Creation, Literal Days or Era's.

Koinonia House ^ | 11/15/2003 | Dr. Chuck Missler

[bondserv]

It's too bad more people don't see it our way. They always have to have an explanation for everything instead of just taking God at His Word.

Isn't that the God's honest truth! It really is easy enough for a child to understand. "Expert" witnesses take this as a threat to their worldview.

[RaceBannon]

You are still laughing?

When you doubt what it says one place, you have no authority to believe anything else anywhere.

It is either the Word of God os it isnt. So, you answer what it says: six literal days or six indeterminite time periods?

10. Make Your Choice: Genesis or Evolution?
Some people believe that if you make the days of creation ages (long periods of time), then Genesis chapter 1 teaches the same as evolution. They believe that the order of events in Genesis 1 is the same order of events as given by the evolutionists. Let us see if this is really true:

Evolutionists say that the SUN came before the EARTH.
But God says the sun was made on DAY ______ and the earth was made on DAY _____. Therefore the earth is _______ days older than the sun! Was there LIGHT even before the sun was made? _______ On what day was this LIGHT created? DAY _____

Evolutionists say that life must first begin in the sea (in the ocean). They teach that after millions of years some life forms eventually moved onto the land.
But God says life in the ocean appeared on DAY _______ and life on land first appeared on DAY ______ (plant life). Thus, life on land appeared _____ DAYS before life appeared in the oceans (marine life).

Evolutionists say that reptiles came before birds (because they believe that birds evolved from reptiles).
But God says that birds were made on DAY ______ and land animals (which would included land reptiles) were not made until DAY ______. Birds are _____ DAY older than reptiles! Could birds have evolved from reptiles? ______ Certainly reptiles did not evolve from birds! (Not even the evolutionists would say this!). The Bible says God made the birds and God made the reptiles. Reptiles did not precede birds by hundreds of thousands of years.

"Every thinking person knows that birds were created before reptiles, because that is what God has told us in His Word."





Evolutionists say that land mammals came before whales (because they believe that whales evolved from land mammals).
But God says that whales and other great monsters of the sea were created on DAY _____ and land mammals were not made until DAY _____. Which came first, the whale or the pig? _________________ Do you think the whale has evolved from pig-like animals? ________ Therefore whales are ______ DAY older than land mammals! For a land mammal to become a whale he would need to return to the water, lose his hair and grow about 50 times as big! Do you think this really happened? ______ A large elephant (the largest land mammal) weighs about 7 tons! A blue whale (the largest kind of whale) weighs about 150 tons! The whale did not evolve by chance; it was created by God!

Evolutionists say that plant life is impossible without insects because the pollination process (the way plants reproduce) requires insects such as bees.
But God says that insects (creeping things) were not created until DAY _____ and plant life appeared on DAY ______. This means that plant life appeared _______ DAYS before insects. Do you think plants and flowers could survive for 3 ages without insects? ______ Do you think plants and flowers could survive for 3 days without insects? _____

"I was on time! The all-wise Creator created me at just the right time–on the sixth day of the creation week! That’s when I started making honey!!"



Evolutionists say that ape-like creatures came along thousands of years before man (because they believe that man evolved from ape-like creatures).
But God says that men and apes were both created on DAY _______.

Evolutionists say that the sun must have been here before life could begin (because they believe life began as the sun’s rays beat down upon the primitive oceans).
But God says that life (vegetation) appeared on DAY _____ and the sun was not made until DAY ______. It is possible for life to begin without the sun but can life begin without the CREATOR? ______ Who is the source of life, the sun or the CREATOR (see Acts 17:28)? _______ Life owes its existence not to the SUN but to the SON OF GOD (see John 1:3 and Colossians 1:16).

Please indicate on which DAY of creation the following were made:

_______ Whales
_______ God rested on this day
_______ Fish
_______ The earth
_______ The stars
_______ Insects (bees)
_______ Land Reptiles
_______ Trees
_______ Flowers
_______ Monkeys
_______ The Sun
_______ Birds
_______ Elephants


_______ Man
_______ Sharks
_______ Light
_______ Dry Land
_______ Turtles
_______ Firmament
(an expanse of space)
_______ Eagles


You cannot listen to both God and the evolutionists! They do not teach the same thing! If Genesis chapter 1 is true (and it is!), then evolution is false. If evolution is true, then Genesis chapter 1 is false, and the Bible is filled with errors. But the Lord Jesus said that the Word of God is ___________ (John 17:17) and we know that God’s Word is __________ from the ___________________ (Psalm 119:160). Who should you believe — the CREATOR or the evolutionists? Will you put your faith in the false god of the evolutionists who needs billions of years to do his work, or will you put your faith in an Almighty Creator who can create all things in 6 DAYS?

As you observe and study the world around you, you will discover that all the true facts of science and all the true laws of science agree perfectly with the Bible and with the book of Genesis! Do you think it is possible for BOOK 1 (God’s revelation in nature) to contradict BOOK 2 (God’s revelation in His Word)? _______ (see pages 14-21). Who wrote Book 1? __________ Who wrote Book 2? _____________ God is the Author of both! This is why both books say the same thing. And both books point to the greatness of the C________________, who is blessed forever, Amen (see Romans 1:25). Sad to say, the books that the evolutionists write often do not agree with the true facts of science and they certainly do not agree with God’s Word the Bible! CHOOSE you this day! (See Joshua 24:15.) Choose the true God of creation or the false God of the evolutionists (the God of chance)!

[RaceBannon]

NoNoNO!

A day is not a thousand years!!

( I wondered when someone would bring this up...sigh...)

(2 Pet 3:1 KJV) This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

(2 Pet 3:2 KJV) That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

(2 Pet 3:3 KJV) Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

(2 Pet 3:4 KJV) And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

(2 Pet 3:5 KJV) For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

(2 Pet 3:6 KJV) Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

(2 Pet 3:7 KJV) But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

(2 Pet 3:8 KJV) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

(2 Pet 3:9 KJV) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


Read it again, the thousand year/day comment means God does not judge us right away, that God is merciful to us and is willing to wait for us to repent

This passage has NOTHING to do with time/evolution/ or anything that relates to creation!!

Every time Creation and Time is mentioned, it is ALWAYS 6 literal days if any day is mentioned

[mcg1969]

More talk about evolution, huh? Oh well. It's clear now that you're not bothering to listen to what I'm saying.

[bondserv]

The Bible speaks of death in two ways.
1.)A physical bodily death
2.)A spritual death or seperation from God

Does your explaination or understanding take these two meanings into account?

1. Death on the cross.
2. Resurrection into His glorified body.

A believer's spirit, from God's eternal point of view, are sitting in heavenly places in Christ Jesus. We can not fully enjoy the "spiritual life" for while we are trapped in this flesh body we see through a glass darkly. Our battles are in the spirit with spiritual weapons, even though we are still in the sinful flesh.

Eph 2:5-6
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

1 Cor 13:12
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Eph 6:12-13
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Jesus conquered our physical bodily death by dying and resurrecting from the dead. And His sinless shed blood paid for our spiritual death, for without shed blood there is no remission for sin, and thus eternal seperation from God until we accept the gift of salvation that Jesus provided. Everyone's ticket to heaven is waiting for them at will-call, with a simple acknowledgement of Christ's provision one needs only to turn to the direction of will-call (repent) and accept their gift.

Mat 26:28
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Heb 9:22
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Acts 10:43
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

[bondserv]

Thank you!

[PFKEY]

All good quotes but I don't get your point. Can you elaborate?

[RaceBannon]

I heard and read what you said. You believe that it maters not if evolution is true, or that the 6-day creation is true, all that matters is faithin Christ

Either all the Bible istrue, or none of it is true, that is what I have been saying.

The Bible does not CONTAIN the word of God, it IS the word of God.

You are trying to have it both ways. By saying that the long time periods are acceptable, then yu are saying that on one day of creation, as listed in Scripture, that we had plants for eons of time before we had a Sun.

See it yet? Either it was a 24 hour day of Creation, like the Bible says, or we had an indeterminate time period of a day with plants being created and NO SUN EXISTING.

According to you, this indeterminate time period lasted many millions of years. With no Sun.

Unless you do not agree with the order of creation, which makes you even more a NON-Bible believer.

See my point yet? Either it is all accurate, or it is not accurate.

[Ff--150]

I didn't come from a monkey, an amoeba, or a slug.

I hear you! Let those bird-brains who believe otherwise kept on fantasying while we wave bye-bye one the way up. =-)

[Elsie]

 

That "tree" in Genesis was Satan. Actually, Satan's greatest deception has not happened yet, "he" gets to play the role as "Christ". Do you know which Christ shows up first?

What about that scripture that says that Christ became our sabbath, thus not one day but every day?

 

 

Well... you've given me three more posts that HAVEN'T addressed my question.

 

 

Genesis 2:9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food;

the tree of life also in the midst of the garden,

and

the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

We have three types of trees described, first for food, second for "life", and the third with "KNOWLEDGE" of good and evil.

115 posted on 11/16/2003 3:12 PM CST by Just mythoughts 

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To: Elsie

Genesis 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, (note the woman had not been created yet) saying, "Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

v. 17 BUT of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

How does one eat from a tree that bears KNOWLEDGE of good and evil?

123 posted on 11/16/2003 3:24 PM CST by Just mythoughts 

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To: Elsie

Now just what kind of "TREE" did Adam and EVE use to cover their private parts? "FIG"

Jeremiah talks about good figs and bad figs, Christ himself said to "LEARN the PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE".

and Christ "cursed" the "FIG" tree. So the "FIG" tree tells a story from that Garden of Eden and yet Christ was still talking about it and told us to learn it.

129 posted on 11/16/2003 3:33 PM CST by Just mythoughts

 

Why?

[Ff--150]

The God that created this universe certainly has the power to create it in 6 literal 24 hour days

BINGO! Right answer. He also has the power to make and control time as well.

[Elsie]

Not being Christian, I do not believe that such an event ever occurred.

 

You'll probably get jumped on pretty hard after THIS statement; I'll try to be gentle ;^)

 

 

Well then: since even the great Roman Empire was drawn into His influence, just what DO you believe has caused the obviously illogical following of so many people (in the first century --dang! I can't even get away from Him there...) to worship and adore a blatent fabrication?

 

85 posted on 11/16/2003 1:56 PM CST by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)

Can I draw you back to my  ORIGINAL question???

[Elsie]

According to Evolutionists, it's the 'opposable thumb' that makes 'man' so great: gives him 'toolmaking' (or at least 'using') ability.

When this supposedly pre-human's inner 'claw' rotated around to position itself so advantageously, it was able to gain ground above the rest of the animals.

I am mocking that 'position statement' by pointing out that lesser and greater apes have 4 thumbs; the implication being that 'The Planet of the Apes' may be in store for 'humans' in the future......

[Elsie]

Right. The earth was populated for many years AFTER "man" was created (Adam (as identified in the story of the garden of Eden) not being seen as the "first man" but the first 'Jewish man"?) but true farming did NOT start until only a few years before the Jewish traditions began in Mesopatomia (-1 sp) ...

 

Actually 'JEWISH' anything did not state UNTIL there was a Tribe of Judah!

Which is how, after Cain was expelled from Adam's family for killing Able, he went to live in different city. if "Adam" was the first man (not the first "Man God selected"), then there couldn't have been a different city already developed.

 

Oh?  That isn't what it says........

 

Genesis 4

 10.  The LORD said, "What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground.
 11.  Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand.
 12.  When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth."
 13.  Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear.
 14.  Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."
 15.  But the LORD said to him, "Not so; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him.
 16.  So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod,  east of Eden.
 17.  Cain lay with his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch.

[laredo44]

It is a statistical impossibility.

There are impossibilities, but what is a statistical impossibility?

[MrsEmmaPeel]

24 hour day was only a recent invention. To quote the USNO:
Standard time in time zones was not established in U.S. law until the Act of March 19, 1918, sometimes called the Standard Time Act.

[Elsie]

It appears that God is giving a pre-cursor(sp?) to "Thou shall not kill"!

[laredo44]

I am just curious why Lord would express himself in terms of rotation of planet Earth? It is very difficult for me to believe that the six days of creation talk about time in terms of rotation of a single planet around it's axis.

There is not a lot in the first verses of Genesis that makes sense. Plants and trees were made on day 3 but the sun wasn't created till day 4 -- makes you wonder when photosynthesis was installed in the plants. Fish and sea creatures waited till day 5 which completely contradicts all current scientific explanations of the order of life appearing on earth.

[laredo44]

If you question the last 2, you will get to ponder these questions with him (Satan) for eternity...

So God will punish me because I have no faith?

[Elsie]

Why does Mars have 93% of its craters in one hemisphere and only 7% in the other?

 

I had not heard this data before, and it DOES raise some interesting questions: mainly about the game of pool! (Right here in River City!)

 

We've ALL clicked them balls around the table, with varying degrees of success, but consider a cosmic game: one using planets, moons and rocks.

 

It would appear that over 80% occurred within a single half-hour!

 

I suppose this COULD be true, if one made the assumption that MARS was ROTATING at the time, and also that there was a 'shotgun' effect of the crater forming missiles approaching as a fairly coherant grouping.  Remember the breakup of the 'comet' a few years ago that impacted the planet Jupiter?

 

Have the astronomers noticed any change in Jupiters orbit from this?  There HAS to be some change, but perhaps the VAST mass difference between the two would put any change down below the noise theshold of the measurements.

 

Anyway, by ESTIMATING mass of the crater formers on MARS, the astronomers could input this data into their computers and work backward to see where MARS was BEFORE the impacts occured.