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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 14-18
Various | November 14, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/14/2003 2:06:57 AM PST by sweetliberty

(Thread 8 - November 14-18)

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Link back to thread 7 (Nov. 11-14)

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Contained in Thread 7:

Radio interview with one of Michael's ex-girlfriends, transcript from CBS News Sunday Morning - Sunday 11-09-03 (Martha Teischner reports over a series of pre-recorded video clips in this news magazine's lead story...), possible link to collusion in the legal proceedings involving attorney George Felos (representing Michael Schiavo) and the neurologist Dr. Peter Bambakidis (court appointed, independent, examining physician), information on Judge Greer not being a judge, Tiger Bay Club Schiavo Debate Info, Michael Schiavo charged with perjured testimony, Michael Schiavo is this month's "black boot" award winner from conspiracyworld.com, Schiavo case timeline and 2 informative letters to Gov. Bush.

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Ckick on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

ATTENTION friends of Terri! I have been asked by the folks in Florida to post the following message:

PLEASE HONOR THIS REQUEST FROM TAMPA BAY, FLORIDA: DO NOT PUT NAME AND TOWN or other personal info of TERRI VOLUNTEERS in public posts on the Terri threads. If in doubt, DELETE THEIR NAME OUT!!! Please do not post personal addresses and phone #s, towns re: Terri's volunteers and her family. PLEASE SEND PEOPLE TO terrisfight.org for the Foundation Address. Thanks.

Many thanks to all of you who are helping keep FReepers and others up to date with information and for all your efforts in making this thread work. All the research, transcripts, prayers and contact information are invaluable. Special thanks to Calpernia for the header graphic.

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Latest threads on Terri's Case:

Terri Schiavo, life insurance, and insurers duty to cancel if beneficiary is trying to kill insured

Governor Sidetracks Schiavo 's Lawsuit

Oregon Bishop Speaks Out in the Case of Terri Schiavo

A thousand words about the Terri Schiavo you never knew

Florida governor, lawmakers defend 'Terri's Law'

Schiavo's case is really about religious right

Roy Moore:Media 'will not print the truth' (While this article isn't only about Terri, Judge Moore does address the issue in this interview)

Remove Dennis Kucinich's Feeding Tube! (Terry Schiavo's Case By Ann Coulter!)



TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; buttout; cultureofdeath; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; righttolife; schiavo; schiavothread; schindler; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: tutstar
Why do you think George W. Greer seems to have such popularity in Pinellas Co.?
881 posted on 11/17/2003 2:24:35 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: floriduh voter
Well, they had something breaking re: Laci Peterson.

Why a murder that has already happened is more worthy of airtime than a murder we are watching live, is baffaloing to me. But again I am old fashioned.

882 posted on 11/17/2003 2:25:18 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: drlevy88
That's right. The nursing idea came up when he was promising to rehab her with the malpractice funds. We are speculating that he attended St. Pete College. St. Pete College's nursing director is also on Hospice's Board. Maybe when he found out that he could just be rid of her, the nursing director hooked him up with Felos who just happened to be on the Hospice Board at the time.

After hubby was hooked up with Felos, thus began the "Terri must die as per her wishes" began (around 1997).

All they had to do was to get the right Judge on board. How hard was that? Judge Greer was a former Hospice Board Member himself. TERRI STILL ALIVE BUT SURROUNDED BY MEN WHOSE WISH IT WAS THAT SHE BE STARVED TO DEATH. They almost succeeded.

Terri is doing well now. I'm sure the Schindlers will give an update tonight on H & C.

883 posted on 11/17/2003 2:25:25 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org FR Site)
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To: Orlando
Where is Jackie Rhoades today? I wonder how she feels about her "best friend" being starved to death. What's up?
884 posted on 11/17/2003 2:28:25 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: floriduh voter
Pillar of his community... like a pillar of horse hooey, that is.
885 posted on 11/17/2003 2:29:40 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: floriduh voter
We are speculating that he attended St. Pete College.

Do they have public records of who they issued diplomas to?

886 posted on 11/17/2003 2:30:48 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: Theodore R.
And why is a Republican on board with such a bizarre agenda? This is something I would expect of a Democrat.
887 posted on 11/17/2003 2:35:23 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: daylate-dollarshort
Osteoporosis is diagnosed in girls (young women) in their mid teens. Especially those with eating didorders.

Osteoporosis was not diagnosed in Terri's case. Lack of periods does not necessarily mean that you have this disease. Many can attest to this fact, including top female athletes. The stress from a bad marriage alone can cause havoc with your periods.

Terri must have been in excellent shape on the whole just to live through the last 13 years with no physical therapy and no treatment for infections (on Michael's orders). It takes a strong healthy body to fight off infections.

888 posted on 11/17/2003 2:36:03 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"Does osteoporosis and its symptoms just "go away" when proper nutrition is resumed?"

I need to look that up. I do know that osteoporosis is diagnosed thru bone density tests.
889 posted on 11/17/2003 2:40:40 PM PST by Bluebird Singing
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To: FR_addict
Therapy was done but not for a very long time.
890 posted on 11/17/2003 2:41:42 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: daylate-dollarshort


You Posted: P.S. By the way, as to your speculation about why I didn't post yesterday, you are way off target. It is not unusual for me not to post on Sunday. I go to church and after services I donate my time to help out in the office or ongoing church projects. A review of the posts made here yesterday would indicate that there are more than a few that are not similarily constrained.

My reply: yest that is right there are some of us who are NOT in Church, which goes to show you that there are lots of peoplw who feel that morally the decisions that are being made "on behalf" of terri are not all from the "Right Wing Christians" The Jews have weighed in on this and I amyself although a Christian am not a member of a church.

This should dispell any rationalization that it is those "Right Wing Christians" therefore you can wholly disregard all their opinions and comments.

State sanctioned murder is of interest to all people, athiests, Christins, Jews, Musloms etc. Don't make this out to be driven by any particular religion or lack of.

From a humanistic standpoint this is plain old wrong, no one even needs to bring religion into this.
891 posted on 11/17/2003 2:50:23 PM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: floriduh voter

What all happened at the Tiger Bay Club? I saw Diane Coleman's opening but nothing else.
892 posted on 11/17/2003 2:51:10 PM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: drlevy88
Do they have public records of who they issued diplomas to?


Check the Florida State Board of Nsg.
They give that info, along with license number.
Type in name
893 posted on 11/17/2003 2:51:51 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands
I'm curious what these "ongoing church projects" that daylate is allegedly involved in are, anyhow. Weeding the flower garden? Painting in the parsonage? Starving the useless? (oops)
894 posted on 11/17/2003 2:52:55 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck ("Across this great nation people pray -- do not put out her flame" -- DFU. An unashamed Godsquadder)
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To: Orlando
does anybody have copy of Jackie Rhoades statements under oath , during the 1996 guardianship hearing reports ???

No, but according to these articles, Jackie Rhodes said this:

A life interrupted: Terri Schiavo's family and friends look back

Jackie Rhodes, who worked and socialized with Terri, says Michael would frequently call his wife at work and leave her in tears. She says she and Terri had each discussed divorcing their husbands and moving in together.

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And this:

Schindler Family Attorney Responds to Michael Schiavo

ANDERSON: Terri got her hair done that day and spent more money than he thought they should have. They had a great big fight before he went off to work.

She was so upset about the fight that she called her best friend from work, a girl that she had discussed perhaps both of them getting a divorce and taking an apartment together. She called this girl, Jackie Rhodes, told her about the big fight.

She was sufficiently upset that Jackie Rhodes asked her should I come over, should I come over and spend the night with you so you'll be safe, and Terri said, no, I'll either be asleep or pretend to be asleep when he gets home from work.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. We've got one minute.

ANDERSON: The next thing Jackie heard, she was in the emergency room.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was she was -- all right. Is there any indication she had any head injuries from any of the records there are, any physical injury at all?

ANDERSON: There is a notation that her neck was ridged and stiff and that her body was stiff when she...

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And this:

Who Has the Right to Die?

The day before Terri Schiavo’s life descended into a private purgatory in 1990, she indulged in a guilty pleasure: an $80 visit to the hairdresser. When she told her husband, Michael, over the phone, he reacted angrily at the cost and the two traded bitter words, according to Jackie Rhodes, a friend of Schiavo’s. Michael says he arrived at the couple’s St. Petersburg, Fla., home late that night and stirred Terri awake to exchange a kiss.

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And this:

Family says marriage unhappy before coma

Mrs. Schiavo would plead with her husband not to quit a job he disliked because of the couple's financial problems, testified Jackie Rhodes, Mrs. Schiavo's friend and co-worker. But Schiavo did quit, leaving her to support them, Rhodes said.

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And this:

Series Day 3: Seeing Signs Of Life

To undermine Michael's credibility, Terri's close friend Jackie Rhodes testified that Terri often spoke about divorcing Michael and described him as mentally abusive.

Terri's sister Suzanne and brother Bobby also said their sister wanted to divorce Michael, and that she spoke of it only days before she collapsed. Bobby said Terri wept as she told him, "Bobby, I am miserable, I am so unhappy. I want to get a divorce."

In June 1998, soon after Michael asked the court for permission to remove Terri's feeding tube, the court appointed Richard Pearse as Terri's guardian ad litem. His job was to investigate the facts of Terri's case and represent her interests in court.

At the 2000 trial, Pearse concluded that he had not found clear and convincing evidence that Terri would have rejected life support.

Pearse said he was troubled by the fact that Michael waited until 1998 to petition to remove the feeding tube, even though he claims to have known her wishes all along, and that he waited until he won a malpractice suit based on a professed desire to take care of her into old age.


895 posted on 11/17/2003 2:57:21 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: floriduh voter
King only wanted to give 20 minutes.
896 posted on 11/17/2003 2:58:35 PM PST by pc93 (Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I nominate Barry Richard, Bush/Cheney's attorney in 2000.
897 posted on 11/17/2003 3:00:46 PM PST by Bluebird Singing
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To: nicmarlo
check post 864. It's long and did not turn out as I figured it would.
898 posted on 11/17/2003 3:02:05 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: KDubRN
Thanks for posting Terri's friend's court testimony. That was very enlightening. What a fine friend. God bless her. I wonder how she feels about Terri being starved to death.
899 posted on 11/17/2003 3:02:39 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: daylate-dollarshort
It's against the law to withhold food and water from farm animals. "Letting Terri go" means starving her to death. Surely you can't mean that you think it's okay to starve a living breathing human being to death.
900 posted on 11/17/2003 3:04:47 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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