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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 14-18
Various | November 14, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/14/2003 2:06:57 AM PST by sweetliberty

(Thread 8 - November 14-18)

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Link back to thread 7 (Nov. 11-14)

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Contained in Thread 7:

Radio interview with one of Michael's ex-girlfriends, transcript from CBS News Sunday Morning - Sunday 11-09-03 (Martha Teischner reports over a series of pre-recorded video clips in this news magazine's lead story...), possible link to collusion in the legal proceedings involving attorney George Felos (representing Michael Schiavo) and the neurologist Dr. Peter Bambakidis (court appointed, independent, examining physician), information on Judge Greer not being a judge, Tiger Bay Club Schiavo Debate Info, Michael Schiavo charged with perjured testimony, Michael Schiavo is this month's "black boot" award winner from conspiracyworld.com, Schiavo case timeline and 2 informative letters to Gov. Bush.

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Ckick on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

ATTENTION friends of Terri! I have been asked by the folks in Florida to post the following message:

PLEASE HONOR THIS REQUEST FROM TAMPA BAY, FLORIDA: DO NOT PUT NAME AND TOWN or other personal info of TERRI VOLUNTEERS in public posts on the Terri threads. If in doubt, DELETE THEIR NAME OUT!!! Please do not post personal addresses and phone #s, towns re: Terri's volunteers and her family. PLEASE SEND PEOPLE TO terrisfight.org for the Foundation Address. Thanks.

Many thanks to all of you who are helping keep FReepers and others up to date with information and for all your efforts in making this thread work. All the research, transcripts, prayers and contact information are invaluable. Special thanks to Calpernia for the header graphic.

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Latest threads on Terri's Case:

Terri Schiavo, life insurance, and insurers duty to cancel if beneficiary is trying to kill insured

Governor Sidetracks Schiavo 's Lawsuit

Oregon Bishop Speaks Out in the Case of Terri Schiavo

A thousand words about the Terri Schiavo you never knew

Florida governor, lawmakers defend 'Terri's Law'

Schiavo's case is really about religious right

Roy Moore:Media 'will not print the truth' (While this article isn't only about Terri, Judge Moore does address the issue in this interview)

Remove Dennis Kucinich's Feeding Tube! (Terry Schiavo's Case By Ann Coulter!)



TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; buttout; cultureofdeath; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; righttolife; schiavo; schiavothread; schindler; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Just Mark Levin on WABC saying that the Texas US Circuit upheld the right to display the Ten Commandments, reasoning that they a part of our legal systems foundation documents, thus historic. Different than the US circuit court that (mis) ruled in the Alabama case.
261 posted on 11/14/2003 4:02:15 PM PST by bvw
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To: floriduh voter
Good, glad to hear that. The Schindlers didn't get much time on Oprah, and it seemed (as at other times) they were being careful not to throw in a bunch of info in the short time they did have. The video was good to see. The beginning video was that footage I've been referring to of MIchael taking Terri out in the wheelchair -- they're at a pond, he's pointing something out to her -- she's "there" all right. Hope all goes well for them on LKL -- I sent in my comments, questions. Take care -- have a good weekend!
262 posted on 11/14/2003 4:04:51 PM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: LadyPilgrim
At this point in time, most of the agencies that are designed to seek justice are too busy covering their butts. IOW, they don't want the truth to come out. Bush getting involved was the best thing that could happen.
263 posted on 11/14/2003 4:09:53 PM PST by msmagoo
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To: msmagoo
Me too! I hope he continues to push and push, hard.
264 posted on 11/14/2003 4:15:35 PM PST by LadyPilgrim
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To: LadyPilgrim
"There has been so much time pass, it would be hard to figure out."

Not at all. Using new forensic science techniques, we are seeing entire historical events reconstructed in such programs as "Unsolved History." Programs like the New Detectives are showing the resolving of crimes and the convictions of the most unlikely of suspects. It can be done, but there has to be a will to do it.

I would like to believe that somebody out there with the means, also has the will. I am sure there is a lot going on behind the scenes that we have no clue about. I would like to see this entire case removed from the so-called "right-to-die" venue. It is misplaced, to say the least.

265 posted on 11/14/2003 4:17:35 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Aliska
There is still this investigation going on. Just got this article from google news.
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0347/hentoff.php
266 posted on 11/14/2003 4:21:23 PM PST by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
That's true.

267 posted on 11/14/2003 4:23:19 PM PST by LadyPilgrim
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To: sweetliberty
You know, a "crusty old detective" would do well to speak up.
268 posted on 11/14/2003 4:24:50 PM PST by LadyPilgrim
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To: Annie03; All
Wooowww, wait till you read this!

Was Terri Schiavo Beaten in 1990?

Will There Be an Investigation in Time?

269 posted on 11/14/2003 4:25:16 PM PST by msmagoo
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To: Annie03
What passes for law these days lacks a necessary common sense. I mean that not in some abstract meaning of "common sense", but in the actual history of the evolution of our legal system. "Common law" was that law that could be reasoned from basic general princibles by common men, lay men, literate lay men, but lay men. Today our US legal system is made inscrutable, irrational and unjust the ridiculous causitry and extremes by over-reliance on the doctrine of stare decisis, and by that mechanism our legal schizophrenia of abtuse, arcane convolutions of case law.

It is within that insane thicket that certain themes -- a madman's repeated mantras that is -- form like rimgs of slime mold form on a compost heap.

In that context we suffer such defective constructs as are called "the right of privacy", "the seperation of church and state", and others. In that context the "right of privacy" is a catchphrase.

In a more general sense we have a right of privacy. Like all our rights, it is ours to hold and keep up, it is not held withour effort -- for all our rights also have value to those who would steal them from us.

And with this catchphrase usage in the courts and press now, the secularist bastards are stealing that most basic right. The right to live. And pre-empting our duty -- one of the duties of any system of justice -- to protect the weak, the orphaned, the widow. In many ways Terri is already a widow. In one big way: No husband to protect her!

And Greer, the softspoken, the blind, the kind man, he -- makes her an orphan too! He cuts off her parents from her.

Hooray for those who carry the banner of life!

270 posted on 11/14/2003 4:27:49 PM PST by bvw
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To: sweetliberty
A friend called and told me Oprah is talking about this on "Oprah after the show" on her Oxygen channel. She asked the audience if seeing the videos had changed their minds, and many raised their hands. She also said something like, why wouldn't the husband be on- not even by satelite (as if asking a producer or someone)?

I don't get Oxygen, so this is second hand info told to me.
271 posted on 11/14/2003 4:29:09 PM PST by Lanza
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To: Lanza
I think a lot of people change their minds when exposed to the reality of what is happening to Terri and of what a creepy sleezeball Schiavo is.
272 posted on 11/14/2003 4:33:21 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Annie03
Thanks for the link. Excellent article.

"Governor Jeb Bush should order the state-wide prosecutor of Florida to convene a jury to investigate all of this." And the Advocacy Center for Persons With Disability has that 1991 bone-scan report. Will the courts wait for the investigations—or hurry to send her into eternity? Should Michael Schiavo have the guardianship power to terminate her?"

We need to ask Jeb to do that.

273 posted on 11/14/2003 4:45:39 PM PST by Aliska
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To: msmagoo
a civil execution

As much as I think I know sometimes, I had never heard of "civil executions" until the Terri Schindler fiasco. Now I know that they occur all over and quite often. Some people seem to rejoice in the death of the pesky infirmed "vegetables" even though they vote for politicians who are nominally committed to fight for the rights of the "disabled."
274 posted on 11/14/2003 5:01:03 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: All
CNN continues to remind me that Larry King will be dealing with the Peterson case tonight, and have an update on Roy's condition. Not a word about the Schindlers. Nothing on the website either.
Should I reach the logical conclusion here? First the Schindlers were buried in a Friday slot, now they're completely unmentionable. They're not on tonight---or King doesn't want anyone to know they are.
275 posted on 11/14/2003 5:07:44 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: Annie03
If memory serves, this investigation has been ongoing for about a month .. seems the Agency made one announcement that it was investigating, and that it would make no further mention thereafter. The article says that Terri's medical records have already been given to the Agency.
276 posted on 11/14/2003 5:09:29 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Theodore R.
The Bush haters have made the death of Terri their battle cry.
277 posted on 11/14/2003 5:12:33 PM PST by Aliska
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To: libravoter
Actually, I think when Bush appealed, there was an AUTOMATIC stay, then this judge ruled to lift the automatic stay.
278 posted on 11/14/2003 5:13:00 PM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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Heavenly Father, we return to give You thanks that there is an agency charged with the advocacy for the disabled, that is looking into Terri's medical background. I pray, dear God, that nothing will remain hidden from view .. that all information will come to light .. that nothing done to hide any sordid or altered detail will prevail. Go where our records searches have not gone .. open up books that have been closed .. bring forth papers that have been filed away .. name the person or persons who have been part of this evil web .. show where monies have been placed and used or misused .. let nothing, O Lord, let nothing be left to find. Pour forth this ugly collection of greed and power and disdain .. show that it comes from the Merchants of Death, and may each one be convicted by his own involvement.

Make haste to sweep away those who would consign this mother's child to a vicious death. Vindicate her parents .. pass judgment on the courts who refuse mercy to its citizens .. go before us, Heavenly Father, for we are not strong or able, but do a mighty work in Your name, lest we continue to suffer at the hands of ungodly men.

Bring forth that one righteous judge who will set Terri free ... we continually seek, and we continually ask, in the name of Jesus, and for His sake, Amen ...

279 posted on 11/14/2003 5:28:56 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Pegita

I'm wondering if they gave them ALL of the medical records or misplaced some of the ones they wouldn't want seen.

280 posted on 11/14/2003 5:31:31 PM PST by pickyourpoison
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