Ten-year-old dies in house fire, chained to bed

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[chance33_98]

Ten-year-old dies in house fire, chained to bed

Clarksville, Arkansas-AP -- The parents of a ten-year-old girl have been arrested on manslaughter charges after their daughter died in a house fire, allegedly chained to a bed by her ankles.

Investigators in Clarksville, Arkansas, say the blaze was accidental. The parents and their other two children made it out of the house before it burned to the ground. But a deputy says when authorities arrived on the scene, the father said he couldn't get the girl out.

Firefighters found the girl's body in her bedroom under debris where the roof collapsed. Investigators also found a chain and padlock they believe secured her to the bed.

The parents were questioned -- but there's no word on their explanation. They're jailed on 100-thousand dollars bail each.

[BossLady]

"arrested on manslaughter charges"

Wondering what constitutes murder vs. manslaughter in Arkansas.....????

[ladyinred]

What horror! Manslaughter? Sounds more like murder to me.

[Heatseeker]

"Clarksville, Arkansas"

[TheAngryClam]

I wish I thought that person were kidding.

What planet are they from with 10 year olds sneaking out to go do God knows what?

I live in Los Angeles (as do you). Remember the Fox 11 story that they were hyping this week about the 10 year old gang member?

When that stuff is shocking in South Central, I just laugh at people who think it seriously happens elsewhere.

[UCANSEE2]

The parents chained their daughter to a bed. There is no excuse for it.

Hmmmmmmm. I can point out instances where people are left in the same circumstances.

This is the first report, and the only EVIDENCE I have read that supports their total guilt, is that they are under a high bond. I suspect many things, but that doesn't prove anything. I find it hard to believe they have a valid, rational reason for doing this, but I am still saying, let's see before we hang them. Or am I in the wrong country? Isn't this the US of A?

[ladylib]

You're right. They're innocent until proven guilty.

[saint]

Facts? We don't need no steenkin' facts.

Didn't take long for someone to suggest bypassing justice and just going ahead and hanging them, did it? I just hope that, if the need ever arises, I have people like you for jurors looking for facts.

Guess we don't need no steenkin' justice system, either.

[nicmarlo]

10-Year-Old Dies In House Fire, Chained To Bed

The parents, Teresa Dick and Lloyd Holt, and their other two children made it out of the house before it burned to the ground. A deputy said when authorities arrived on the scene, the father said he could not get the girl out.

Firefighters found Molly Holt's s body in her bedroom under debris where the roof collapsed. Investigators also found a chain and padlock they believe secured her to the bed.

"It's hard to understand, but we've got a job to do," said Johnson County Sheriff Wes Kendrick. "As for an explanation of it, I don't have one ... and I don't think I'll ever have one."

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Neighbor Patti Williams said the child had a reputation of being "a handful."

"But she was a sweetheart. She would come up and sit on my lap. Oh, God, it's awful," she said.
http://www.thehometownchannel.com/news/2633121/detail.html

[Our man in washington]

Before we jump to conclusions here, how do we know the parents chained the child to the bed? It could have been one of the other children or even the child herself. Kids do wierd things sometimes.

[nicmarlo]

The body of Molly Holt was found by firefighters in her bedroom under debris where the roof had collapsed, said Chief Deputy Jerry Dorney. Investigators also found a chain and padlock that they determined had secured the girl to her bed, Dorney said.

Dorney would not say what the parents told investigators when asked why their daughter was chained to the bed.

Lloyd Holt, 32, and Teresa Dick, 31, were arrested and jailed on $100,000 US bail each.
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[UCANSEE2]

Whether you meant to or not, you said that it is okay to chain a child to a bed because some children sneak out at night. That is what is revolting. If you did not mean to imply that, then please set the record striaght.

Fine. Thanks for the opportunity. I never said it is OKAY. Get that straight. I don't know what the hell is wrong with everyone on FR anymore. We get these braindead characters like Chancellor Palpations, then we have people that find it their duty to misinterpret every word said by another poster, without giving them the opportunity to clarify what is the READER's MISINTERPRETATION.

I have heard of people tying or chaining their children to bed. I have heard of them locking all doors and windows, and I have heard of them actually sedating the children as well.

If you can't stand the actions of others, blame them, not me.

I have a son, who is grown up and did very well in school. He served his time in the military on board the USS Abraham Lincoln, as an aerial photo analyst, and finished his time just recently.

SO, to those of you that did EXACTLY as I was saying (JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS), I think you need to grow up a little and learn more about the world around you.

Over in Iraq, they used to snap the heads off little babies if the parents didn't cooperate.

Because I know this was done, does that mean I condone it? HELL NO.

[UCANSEE2]

To even suggest that there may be a possible makes me hope and pray that you never are blessed with a child.

Read my post, I have a child. I would never do this to him.

I also wouldn't let the stupid doctors and schools convince me to sedate my child with RITALIN, but there are people that do. I consider them the same as you are considering me, just because I recognize that people do strange things for strange reasons, and the answer why is not always obvious. I can't think of why a rational sane person would tie a child to the bed, and I would like to know what their's was.

I can't think of rational reasons to kill a complete stranger, but people do it every day, and do it legally, as well.

I know this is a stretch, but maybe the parents aren't the ones that locked her to the bed. Did you think of that? That is why I want to have the evidence before I jump to conclusions.

[UCANSEE2]

Thank you both. I find it so funny that people are so inconsistent here on FR. I think it is because people are that way to begin with. That is why the current makeup of the DEMOCRATIC party even exists. People that have rules that change based on their feelings about the issue, instead of facts.

Durst killed (accident or not?) another old man, and then dismembered his body. If it was an accident, why not just leave the body, and tell police?

He was acquitted. Hell, he only killed an old man, WHO CARES. If he had killed a 10 year old girl, HE WOULD BE IN JAIL RIGHT NOW.

You CAN GET AWAY WITH MURDER, it depends on who you kill.

And if the person murdered evokes the emotion of the public, it doesn't matter who killed her, SOMEONE will pay, whether guilty or not.

[The KG9 Kid]

"... Not that it was a good tactic, but it may not have been the child imprisonment scenario that the mind jumps to."

You mean like stories we hear where an emaciated, starving child is chained to a bed by abusive parents?

Okay... but that's not the scenario that first came to my mind.

The scenario I have in mind is a little girl shrieking in mortal terror chained to a bed as a wall of flames that will inevitable burn her alive approaches while her parents flee the house.

What more do we need to hear?! We have a burned up little girl in a house fire padlocked to the remains of a bed, and you're telling us 'not to rush to conclusions'?

Those 'parents' might as well just hang themselves in their cells tonight.

[UCANSEE2]

I had a feeling you didn't have the courage to repeat your little butt-buddy chatter where anyone could read it. That is why I have no respect for you or them.

[UCANSEE2]

What more do we need to hear?!

You apparently need to hear nothing more. Since one statement in a newspaper can convince you to encourage and support the killing of 1-2 human beings, regardless to the truth of the situation, I guess there is nothing to say to you.

[saint]

They're innocent until proven guilty.

Not exactly. Just nitpicking here and this is a side issue anyway, but this has been stated so many times that now everybody believes it.

Our justice system (the best there is this side of God's judgment) is based on the presumption of innocence. This in no way says the guilty is innocent until proven guilty. If you're guilty, you're guilty, regardless of whether the courts can prove it. But in order for our justice system to work you are presumed innocent until your case has run it's course.

In short, one word makes all the difference. The correct standard for our system, rather than innocent until proven guilty, is presumed innocent until proven guilty. They used to teach this in the schools but I suspect it's been lost somewhere along the way.

Our courts do their part and if a guilty person is not convicted then it's left to God. They aren't somehow made innocent just because they haven't been proven guilty.

Disclaimer: I go out of my way to avoid our legal system because I know it isn't perfect. The presumption of innocence is actually needed for that reason just because, being the best humans can be, we can't be perfect.

[The KG9 Kid]

On second thought, I suppose it is possible that these two parents became disoriented and stood outside the smoldering remains of *someone else's house across town*, and their own little girl is safe at home chained to her bed.

[Ciexyz]

I'd imagine those parents are going thru hell in jail. One, the personal torment from their conscience as they realize what they did, and Two, the repercussions from the other inmates who don't like inmates who hurt kids.