Universal National Service Act of 2003

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[hsmomx3]

Anyone hear about this?

"The Universal National Service Act of 2003 "amends the Military Selective Service Act to authorize the military registration of females" and declares "that it is the obligation of every U.S. citizen, and every other person residing in the United States, between the ages of 18 and 26 to perform a two-year period of national service"

[hsmomx3]

Thanks for your comments. I had just read an article dated 11/11/2003 from a website that FR does not allow the posting of articles. It was written by Berit Kjos and some others. Sounded to me like it might be revived as I haven't heard what the status of this bill is.

[hsmomx3]

That is exactly the article I was attempting to post here but I got that little blurb which said FR does not allow articles from that site.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

If the Republicans think they can get this through Congress, they will lose every election for the next 20 years.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Perhaps something like this might help.

Perhaps you should sign up and leave my kids alone.

[bigfootbob]

"From the article: "between the ages of 18 and 26"

Perfect age to establish contact with the tattooed bunch

"This bill does nothing but violate our rights."

This bill may, I haven't read it. I'm thinking about the concept. Most people affected by this will have just received 12years of public funded education. This means you, I, and everyone else has had the government violate our rights as producers, by stealing our life energy and giving it to others. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask the recipients of the looted booty to repay somewhat.

"Why don't you simply fire them?"

Never hired them. This is the response they generated from the interview!

Bottom line IMHO, is there should be some kind of draft or alternative for all healthy kids. Look at the rabid antiAmericanism of todays youth based on LIES. The draft served our Country well previously and could again.

[bigfootbob]

Perhaps you should sign up and leave my kids alone.

I did. You don't have to worry, your kids probably couldn't make the cut anyway.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

And that fact is none of your business.

Your kind, who so glibly want to send my 18-year-old off to war, make me sick.

A professional, well-paid military is what you and I pay our taxes for. God bless them and protect them.

And may God protect my kids from people like you.

[freeeee]

establish contact

Writing, calling on the phone or introducing yourself in person is 'establishing contact'.

We're talking about enslaving people, not a simple 'hello'. I loathe euphemisms.

Most people affected by this will have just received 12years of public funded education. This means you, I, and everyone else has had the government violate our rights as producers, by stealing our life energy and giving it to others. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask the recipients of the looted booty to repay somewhat.

This is the mist insidious and damaging aspect of socialism. Once you are no longer responsible for your own well being, those that are will control you.

Your idea is the same as helmet laws: You don't pay for your own hospital bill, so you don't own your head anymore.

Well I haven't given up the fight against socialism, and I'm sure not going to push it to its logical conclusion - slavery.

[CholeraJoe]

Let me guess. You've never served a day in the Armed Forces, right?

[Enterprise]

I suspect that some types of service won't involve actual uniformed military service. An example might be to have them work at VA hospitals, or cutting bark beetle infested trees on Federal land.

[freeeee]

Look at the rabid antiAmericanism of todays youth

A two year stint of slavery isn't going to instill love of one's country with young people. Oh, quite the opposite. It will instill deap seated hatred of a government that tells them they're free one minute and then enslaves them the next.

It would be the source of many, many riots. And rightly so.

[BureaucratusMaximus]

It will instill deap seated hatred of a government that tells them they're free one minute and then enslaves them the next.

So whats wrong with that?

[freeeee]

That's right, and I'm proud of it.

[freeeee]

So whats wrong with that?

I see your point. It would teach them a valuable lesson.

But we shouldn't hate our country. I prefer that we love it, and it earn our loyalty by respecting our freedom.

[Freedom4US]

Don't worry. Better men than you (and women for that matter) will keep you free, and safe, without any undue exertion or hardship on your part.

[freeeee]

While I greatly appreciate those that serve in our armed forces, it takes more than soldiers to make a country free. Even the worst dictatorships in history had soldiers.

The infringements of our liberty no longer come from foreign shores. They come from right here at home, and the fight for liberty is to be had at the ballot box.

And if any fool invades this country, I'll gladly give my all including my life if need be defending it. But I will never volunteer to play 'global policeman'. I respectfully decline military service until our foreign policy regains some sanity.

[tpaine]

A professional, well-paid military is what you and I pay our taxes for.
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Indeed we do, and one of the best ways to get recruits is to draft them initially.
Quite a few draftees of the 40's thru 60's stayed in as a career.

In see nothing wrong with a draft/service obligation [with absolutely no deferments] for say a term of one year with a 'no combat clause'..

Call it a citizens duty, a 'rite of passage', -- whatever... But this country needs people 'indoctrinated' in constitutional knowledge and self defense.

[AndyObermann]

Ok, I would be under this legislation's age range (I'm 21), and I don't necessarily agree with it. The reason is not that I don't want to serve my country, however, the reason is that I'm almost finished with college, and am about to begin a career. By being forced into service, those ambitions would be quickly dashed.

Secondly, my grandfather served in the Korean War and was still in the military in the beginning years of Vietnam. He simply told me that he despises the fact that they instituted a draft for Vietnam especially. He said that by forcing people into service, you end up with a military full of unmotivated/undedicated people whose only goal is to get out alive. They learn nothing of love or respect for their country, the learn plain self interest. Further, he concluded that this is how we lose wars...by ending up with a group of soldiers that aren't dedicated to the cause and are only there because they were forced to be.

To me, this makes perfect sense. I can tell you now, I love and respect my country just as much as anyone here, and I appreciate those who chose to serve the same, but just speaking for me, since for so long I have had ambitions of starting the career path that I have set out for myself, I would be an unmotivated soldier. I don't know if being forced into service would create a feeling of resentment towards my government, but it would make me feel as if all that I have been working toward would have been for naught. -ANdY

[JohnGalt]

Wrong on that one.

We have to pay 60% in extortion fees to the federalis so that they may send teenage girls from West Virginia to fight secular desert republics. And we still have to do all the 'real defending' ourselves (God bless you, Todd Beamer.)

That's quite a hardship indeed.

[Paul C. Jesup]

So whats wrong with that?

It leads to nasty revolts where the blood is waist deep.

Guys we're going to have to come to the conclusion that either we completely enslave these socialist control freaks, or they are going to completely enslave us.