Cornell Student Assaulted (Black on White "hate crime" at Ithaca Ludacris concert?)

Copyright © 2003 by The Cornell Daily Sun, Inc. ^ | TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 11, 2003 | By SUN STAFF

[Behind Liberal Lines]

ITHACA--A white female student assaulted Sunday night leaving the Nappy Roots and Ludacris concert at Cornell's Barton Hall told The Sun that she was the victim of a hate-crime, which left her with a ruptured ear drum and thirteen stiches on her face.

The Cornell Police morning report noted that the police received a "complaint from a student that was physically assaulted by an unkown individual." The report indicated that the assault occurred at 11:47 p.m. and that the investigation is continuing.

The incident, as described by the victim, began when the student had a minor altercation with another girl who was at the concert while the performace was still going on.

"She said 'Get your white hair out of my face,'" the student said.

After the student put her hair up to get it out of the way, the alleged assailant proceeded to hit her, at which point the student and her friends moved to the back of the concert space.

When the concert was over, the student separated from her friends to get into her car and said she found herself surrounded by a group made up of five black females and one black male, who have yet to be identified.

"They said they were gonna f**k up my pretty white face," she said.

Allegedly, the incident turned physically violent when one of the girls slapped the student hard enough to rupture her eardrum, a blow which threw her off balance. The other five assailants proceeded to kick and punch her as she fell down.

"They pulled a ton of my hair out," the student said.

The six assailants stopped hitting the victim only when one of her male friends came out of the concert and stepped in.

"If it wasn't for [him], I don't know how long it would have gone on," she said.

The victim said doctors estimate it will take her eardrum a year and a half to heal.

"This was a hate crime, and it shouldn't happen to another person. The more people know the better," said the victim's mother.

The University is currently investigating the situation.

"We take any sort of hate crime very very seriously," said Linda Grace-Kobas, interim vice president for communications and media relations. "We will thoroughly investigate all aspects of the incident."

"I would encourage her to file a bias-related incident report," said Robert Harris, vice provost for diversity and faculty development. "We have a process and with a report we can begin putting that process to work."

Once an incident report is filed, a University employee is assigned the case to assist victims in pursuing their situation, according to Harris.

"It's really hard to live with this. I want people to know because I need to press charges. If anyone has any information, tell the police because [they] don't know anything right now," the student said.

[steve8714]

Hey DW...precisely right...a certain percentage of the young generation think it is OK to gang up and beat on helpless people. Where were all the security people? Escorting Ludacris and his "posse" out of the building? If this was on campus she should sue the snot out of Cornell for negligence...I bet this is not the first incident on his tour.

[Red Boots]

Gawd, takes me back to high school in the '70s. You just couldn't have have a fist fight with a black guy and then forget about it. You then had to face all his friends, acquaintences and relatives, no matter who won the initial scrap. Oh, and don't look to your (white) friends for any assistance, either; you could be facing a dozen or more at once, and the whites were nowhere to be found. Did you go to John Muir High School, too ?

[bk1000]

You forgot the sarcasm tag, I hope...

[Benrand]

"We take any sort of hate crime very very seriously,"

except this one.

[bk1000]

"But when whitey goes to a rap show, is he "asking for it"?"

Sadly, these are the kids of parents raised on rock and roll. I wondered how they would irritate us. They found it with rap music. These young white kids actually think that if they talk the talk, buy the records, and wear baggy pants
that they will be welcomed by the brothas. Wrong. just being white at one of these events can get you killed. The very lyrics instill hatred toward whitey. I hope this makes the mainstream news. I hope this is treated as a hate crime, which it is, and I hope most of all that these kids will wise up just a little bit.
(lol at the Atl yuppies bit!)

[Qwinn]

"Are these caused partly by environment - yes. But they can not be all explained by environment - there are many races which come from similiar environments that do not behave this way."

I believe this is a very false statement.

What has distinguished the black "environment" from all other racial groups is the culture of victimhood. This cannot be solely blamed on them, because for a long time they -were- victims. I don't think any other group in America has anywhere near a similar history, so that makes the second part of your statement manifestly untrue.

And on top of the legitimate reasons for this cultural state, the Left has deliberately exascerbated it for use in their quest for eternal class warfare. If you think whites raised in that atmosphere would turn out much different, I think you're way way way off.

You are attributing some of the differences to genetics. I attribute them to a manipulated culture that had a pretty rough starting point (through no fault of their own) to begin with.

Blacks from Jamaica have a higher average income than whites in America, and I can't see how there could be any significant difference in genetics.

And despite the fact that Hispanics aren't doing much better than blacks overall, Cubans do considerably better economically than whites on average as well, DESPITE the offloading of thousands of convicts during the '80's that would have presumably brought the average Cuban income down. What's a significant difference between Cubans and other hispanics? Well, for one, they're the only ones that are predominantly conservative, and two, they came from a country that had a tremendously strong work ethic.

It's not genetics, it's the culture of dependence and victimhood imposed on them in this country. Raise a black child in a good environment with a good work ethic and the will to resist the temptation of being cast as a perpetual victim, and he'll compete just as well as any white or any asian or any Cuban or any other group.

I'm not saying anything controversial here. It is widely accepted in conservative circles that it is socialist policies of creating dependence on the government that has stunted the growth of black culture tragically in this country (which was doing quite well before the New Deal, actually - see Thomas Sowell for some statistics that demonstrate this, and I'll bet Project 21 would show that as well).

Flawed genetics is a cheap answer, and yes, it is a manifestly racist viewpoint. It is that sort of statement that gives conservatives a bad name and Leftists eternal fuel to mischaracterize all of us.

Qwinn

[John Will]

I was offered a way into cornell.
Heh, no, one more reason i'm at Michigan Tech.

[usadave]

Ludacris is the bomb.

Uh, right. Whatever you say.

[Kenton]

One would think she'd cut right to the chase and file a multi-million dollar lawsuit against Cornell for not protectin her from racist attacks on campus.

[usadave]

Now, if you have some other intelligent explanation for the chimp reference that's actually plausible, go right ahead. I might buy your "mob action" explanation, if you're willing to admit that you made a bad or unthinking choice of metaphor. Otherwise, I'm sticking with my original assessment.

Here come the Thought Police!

[sasafras]

Let me respond to your politically correct diatribe point by point.

"I don't think any other group in America has anywhere near a similar history, so that makes the second part of your statement manifestly untrue."

This is obviously false - there are many groups of Americans, including the Irish and Asians that have had very similiar histories. The fact that you believe that blacks today are somehow linked to a more ancient past (perhaps slavery) and that this is what tethers them to succeed is obviously ignorant. Blacks today have every opportunity, and in fact many more opportunities, to succeed than almost every other racial group in America. To blame it on their environment and assume that other groups are unequal in their economic oppression, is quite frankly absurd. That is unless you are claiming that blacks just cant succeed because our society, mostly white conservative males, dont want them to. Which is argument only proposed by liberals, the media and certain black organizations.

" If you think whites raised in that atmosphere would turn out much different, I think you're way way way off."

I went to a school where there were only three other white kids in my class. Did I turn out like many of my other classmates?No. I will agree with you partly here, that environment does influence heavily the behaviors we exhibit as adults but that still does not account for the difference in behavior that we exhibit as different racial groups. Lets be honest, shall we, certain racial groups have inanately different behaviors regardless sometimes of our surroundings. To discount the fact that part of who we are is hardwired is to disregard the truth. Studies show that adoptive children often do not display the same behaviors exhibited by natural born children -eventhought they are raised exactly the same. Many other examples are documented of this as well.

"Blacks from Jamaica have a higher average income than whites in America, and I can't see how there could be any significant difference in genetics."

I do not discount this statement, but that is not the issue of my premise. It is not about a persons ability to make money but instead it centers around the racial predetermination that appears consistantly in certain races. Yes, Jamaicans may make great money (not sure I believe this w/o proof) but that is not the point! The point is that racial groups behave differently even in similiar environments. Is this always the case? No But generally, statistically I think it bears true.

Ultimately - environment plays a role. But do not discount genetics. Is is no accident that Europeans or Asians were building huge buildings, discovering the universe, writing symphonies, publishing books, thinking critically etc for hundreds and thousands of years before other cultures. Is this all environment? Absolutely not - is it all genetic? absolutley not? Is it a combination? Absolutely yes. To suggest that genetics is not important is a lie and a mistruth of world history. Moreover it is people like yourself who prophesize the fallacy of my argument but have never critically examined it or lived in the inner city. I suggest you get off of your lilly white butt and spend some time in Cabrini Green or Harlem and see first hand both the environment and genetic diffeences between our cultures before you hand out your elitist and wrongheaded opinions.

[Gunrunner2]

Indeed.

[sasafras]

By the way welcome to FreeRepublic! - I notice youve been here all of one month.

[Snidely Whiplash]

However, at the bottom of the page, under the "Suspected Offenders Race," Hispanic is NOT listed as a catergory

Probably because "Hispanic" isn't a racial classification, but an ethnic or cultural one. In the parlance of those who classify others by races, Hispanics are generally considered white or of mixed (look up "mestizo") ancestry. The report states as much, though it doesn't spell it out.

(This puts aside whether hate-crime laws are a good idea at all.)

Snidely

[Snidely Whiplash]

Well, Snidely, we're all waiting............................................

Gee, I'm sorry - I didn't realize I was at your beck and call.

Of course I think the assaulters should be punished. I hardly approve of anyone beating anyone else up. But I get grumpy about the attitude that whites are somehow put upon in this country. This may come as a surprise to you, but WE STILL RUN EVERYTHING.

The "status quo" comment bugged me too...it's like white folks are developing the victim mentality we justly deride when we see it in "civil rights" activists. That, more than anything, is what prompted my comments.

Snidely

[Gunrunner2]

Yes, but the fact is they DO break them down as a class that can be a victim, therefore they should also be listed as a perp as well.

That would be the honest and fair thing to do.

This slight-of-hand skews any data these forms are supposed to track. Come on, do you really think ("feel" is for rats) that the form is an honest assessment of true "racial" bias crimes when Hispanic can be a vicitm but not a perp?

Fact: whenever a Hispanic assualts a Black and uses race as a motivation, then it goes against "Whites," and this is fair??!!

No way.

[Ignatz]

Of course I think the assaulters should be punished
For a "hate" crime, or just for a crime? Are whites the only people capable of "illegal thoughts"?

But I get grumpy about the attitude that whites are somehow put upon in this country
When racism is institutionalized, such as Affirmative Action at modern college campi, whites are being "put upon"! We are marginalized and demeaned in a manner that rivals the Jim Crow laws. How does "Group Politics" bring equality of opportunity to everyone? It does not and can not.

This may come as a surprise to you, but WE STILL RUN EVERYTHING
I could play the fool here and ask "We, who?", but I won't; "we" all know who you mean.
Even if your broad-stroke assumption were true (and like most broad-stroke assumptions, it's not), "This, of course, implicitly suggests that only someone "of color" could represent the interests of those "of color." So, whites presumably can only represent the interests of whites, women the interests of women, left-handed people the interests of left-handers, etc." (Larry Elder, column, 11/13/03 -TownHall.com).
Mr. Elder continues: "Most blacks do quite well in America, with black income and business creation outpacing that of whites. The problems facing the black underclass -- crime, drugs, out-of-wedlock births, under-performing schools -- seem to go unnoticed by the Democratic candidates whose party policies -- monolithic public schools, refusal to privatize Social Security, government welfare -- only make things worse."
And I would add that any disparity that exists today, after so many decades of Civil Rights awareness and laws and "sensitivity training", exists because the very leaders of the black community are guilty of preserving those disparities, even encouraging them through their rhetoric. How many times do black children need to be told that they cannot succeed in America before they begin to believe it?
Forunately, the majority of blacks do not, and there are numerous role models for them to look up to: Martin Luther King, Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, and Condoleeza Rice among them*.

...it's like white folks are developing the victim mentality we justly deride when we see it in "civil rights" activists. That, more than anything, is what prompted my comments.
I think in this case, SW, it was being pointed out how reverse racism is racism just the same: just as harmful, just as demeaning, and we caught these Media and Academe idiots blatantly engaging in it. Are we occasionally acerbic? Absolutely. It belies our frustration at being called "racist", when what we strive for is a "color-blind society", by those who truly are racist in thought and deed.

*Side note: I have no problem naming streets in honer of MLK....as long as we can name the gutters of those streets in "honor" of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson....and perhaps a sewer grate or two in "honor" of Mfume and Farakan!

[Behind Liberal Lines]

The local daily has finally seen fit to report this case here

However, it appears that Cornell is actively attempting to cover the incident up.

Ithaca is the City of Evil.

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