Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 8 -10

Various | November 7, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

TERRI'S FIGHT (Thread 6 - November 8-10, 2003) (Link back to thread 5 - Nov. 5-7)

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Contained in Thread 4:

Link to article on Michael Schiavo from hometown newspaper, information on death by starvation and dehydration, information on hospice eligibility and hospice and medicare/medicaid fraud, e-mail address for Judge Greer, transcript of Larry King Live interview with Michael Schiavo and George Felos, Terri's address at the hospice and the address for the foundation, to send cards for Terri's birthday (December 3), transcript of O'Reilly interview with Kate Adamson, e-mail addresses for Florida legislature, transcript of Abrams Report interview with George Felos and Pam Anderson, transcription of Terri's bone scan, legalese for dummies version of Gov. Bush's motion to dismiss Sciavo's suit against the Constitutionality of Terri's Law, link to FatherOfLiberty's research on HBOT (Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy), links to ACLJ involvement in Schiavo case and Father Rob Johansen's daily update.

There are four other relevant posts that I want to highlight here in case anyone missed them or didn't get pinged. These are a general Terri thread troll alert, an especially thoughtful post about the sincere effort that FReepers are making in Terri's behalf, the Father's Love Letter , and remarks made by Jim Robinson on this issue and reposted here by lonevoice.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

There was a tremendous amount of information posted on the previous thread. For anyone who hasn't been following the daily threads, links to relevant posts and information from the previous thread are contained in the body of the present one. I have found that very helpful in trying to find something later. You people are doing a spectacular job of getting information out and also in helping to keep all of us updated here. What a great joint effort. This fight, to me, illustrates beautifully what Free Republic is about and what it means to be a FReeper. Way to go FRiends. Keep up the good work!

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Latest threads On Terri's Case

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Judge Bans Terri Schiavo's Parents From Legal Battle

Dean 'Appalled' That Florida Lawmakers Saved Schiavo

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Terri Schiavo Case: Gov. Bush Asks To Meet New Guardian

Terri Schiavo Case: Creditable Witnesses & the 1st Guardian

Judge Rejects Bush Effort in Schiavo Case

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[nicmarlo]

Someone posted that Jodi has an insurance business in her home. However, I still don't understand, either, how she has the money to make all these real estate transactions; I never heard of insurance agents making that much money, myself (don't get me wrong, they get paid well, but not exhorbitantly).

[Orlando]

I can use somee prayers right about now, getting
hit with a sudden ?????
please.. need to check out any jane Doe

[Ohioan from Florida]

I think it's disgusting, too! I just can't understand why some say that this is no cause for alarm. I have never heard of anything so barbaric, yet it happens every day (apparently)! If these same bioethicists were so concerned over the meaning life has, then they would be rushing to endorse that some doctors actually are trying to improve the "quality of life" for the disabled, yet all they (the bioethicists) do is talk, talk, talk.

[Chocolate Rose]

....Forget about the CPD & Sheriff Office over-there, they
are still at the Donut shop .....

One of MS attorneys, Scott Swope (sp?), worked as a Deputy Sheriff, 1988-94', for the Pinellas County Sheriff. He could have been a detective, maybe. How long has Sheriff Rice been Sheriff? Rice is listed as a member on Board of Directors for the Suncoast Hospice Foundation.

[Mo1]

In 1986, the young couple moved to St. Petersburg, Fla., living in a two-bedroom condo the Schindlers kept as a vacation home. The rest of the family followed after Suzanne graduated from high school, said Schindler Jr., who also moved to Florida after graduating from La Salle University.

So Terry and Michael were the first to head to Fl .. hmmm wonder why?

[nicmarlo]

I'm sorry, I'm not quite understanding what you're saying.....explain for the dumb here, please. thanks.

[Mo1]

Before his first date, Michael brought the woman to the Schindlers' home and introduced her, so everyone could be comfortable with what was happening, he said. "That's my brother," he said. "And now they say he's a bad guy."

He brought his girlfriend to meet his wife's parents???

Gee .. what a guy

[Aliska]

It seems to me as if the doctors are spending more time in the courtroom than they have with Terri. I could be wrong about that.

As to bioethecists, if they aren't grounded in Judeo-Christian ethics, I don't care to hear what they have to say.

I have asked myself in this case, "Which is the worst of the evils, allowing Terri to starve to death or letting her linger indefinitely?", so it's not as if I can't see both sides of the issue. I don't think I could be the one to pull the plug and would have horrific resentment if my job required me to do so. You have to consider that people opt for the side the money/fame/whatever is on. Few have the independence or courage to stand up for what is right. Those who do have the financial independence seem to come out on the wrong side of most issues. I wonder why that is?

[Mo1]

Prayers for what?

Is everything ok?

[T'wit]

> Schiavo says that he is a very compassionate man, and he is withholding food and water to let Terri "be free."

MS has spent something like a half-million dollars for legal help to kill Terri. For a man of modest means, that is an ASTOUNDING amount of money just to "carry out her wishes."

It doesn't make sense. He hates Terri. We know he expressed his real feelings for her by the DNR order, stealing her therapy money, stealing her wedding rings, refusing to give her medicine, denying her the Communion host, all that sort of thing. Not to mention screwing around with other women. In short, in the very kindest view, he has no love whatever for her, and has not loved her for many years.

Nor is he doing it to "honor" her "wishes" -- MS has no honor in him, and there isn't a scrap of evidence Terri had any such wishes. So, what else would motivate this extraordinarily expensive attack on her?

Could be hatred, could be some wish to finish his 1990 attack on her, could be fear of discovery of that attack if there's an autopsy. A profit motive doesn't seem to make sense because the effort to kill her gets increased even as the potential inheritance dwindles.

What am I missing? Is there something deeper going on here with this shady-looking Hospice business, the sealed medical and financial records, the parents' deaths...? We should get out our Hercule Poirot gray cells and brainstorm every avenue.

[Mo1]

Someone posted that Jodi has an insurance business in her home. However, I still don't understand, either, how she has the money to make all these real estate transactions; I never heard of insurance agents making that much money, myself (don't get me wrong, they get paid well, but not exhorbitantly).

My sister is an Insurance Agent and has a business where she works out of her home and yes, if they can get alot of good clients, the can make a decent paycheck.

As for real estate transactions?? just because they are in her name .. it doesn't mean she pays for it all

For example, my cousin's husband owns a busniess and yet most things are in her name .. mainly for protection should anything happen to the business .. they won't lose their house

[nicmarlo]

Few have the independence or courage to stand up for what is right.

I do and this is what I'm told: "I'm a troublemaker." "You shouldn't be so outspoken, your bosses may not like that." etc. I don't care. You only live once, and I'm not going to live a lie quietly. I speak the truth, boldly.

[Shortstop7]

Barf......I hadn't thought of Peter Arnett in ages.......talk about rotten memories.

Where is he these days? Probably France.........

[nicmarlo]

I stand corrected....however, I still find it unlikely that this is all her money.....I mean, she didn't start having these transactions until after Michael got the $1.3 million (1993) to spend on Terri's medical care.

[Ohioan from Florida]

Yeah, I thought that was pretty strange myself. Especially because by the time he brought Jodi to meet them, they would have already been going to court for some time. To me, he seems like the kind of guy who just wants to lord his authority over people, and rub salt in their wounds.

[nicmarlo]

could be fear of discovery of that attack if there's an autopsy

And could have been fear of her getting well enough to have talked about that attack. According to nurses' testimony, she was talking, she was improving, she was expressing herself...

[Shortstop7]

Yeah.......he sounds like a real stand up guy, doesn't he?

I can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would try to defend this jerk.

[Chocolate Rose]

Your post #962. You have our prayers.

[Shortstop7]

I think he is driven by money.......where it is, I don't know.

But I also think he is driven because he doesn't want the truth to come out.....about what really happened to her that night.

[Aliska]

I was once more like you but I think I was coming on too strong. It's hard for me to keep my mouth shut when I don't agree with things. There is a time to speak up and a time to not make waves. I tend to be a troublemaker, too. One must pick one's fights wisely and learn to let go of some things. Just my 2-cents' worth.