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Conservativism and Morality (Cathryn Crawford)
The Washington Dispatch ^ | November 7, 2003 | Cathryn Crawford

Posted on 11/07/2003 8:12:15 AM PST by Scenic Sounds

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1 posted on 11/07/2003 8:12:16 AM PST by Scenic Sounds
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To: ValenB4; Scenic Sounds; Sir Gawain; gcruse; geedee; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Chad Fairbanks; ...
Ping! If you want on or off this list, let me know.

And a special thank you to CyberCowboy777. :-)
2 posted on 11/07/2003 8:14:48 AM PST by Cathryn Crawford (Algunos misterios son tan profundos y maravillosos que deben ser explorados para ser entendido.)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Conservatives have a strong belief that societies that are governed by people who are in turn governed by a strong moral compass are, in fact, better societies. They believe that a good government, a legitimate government, is one that is based on the conservative principles of justice, honesty, and honor.

Brilliant point.

3 posted on 11/07/2003 8:15:49 AM PST by ClintonBeGone
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To: Scenic Sounds
Words to live by...
Sure would like to hear these kinds of thoughts from my own children ,nieces and nephews
What a neat kid and joy to her folks..

4 posted on 11/07/2003 8:18:35 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: lainie; dorben
Lord, we need another Goldwater ping!
5 posted on 11/07/2003 8:18:36 AM PST by Cheapskate (Have you Squandered part of your Heritage today?STOP IT!)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
BTTT!!!!!
6 posted on 11/07/2003 8:20:34 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Excellent article.
7 posted on 11/07/2003 8:30:39 AM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Think Bill Bennett

Or Tim Hutchinson.

8 posted on 11/07/2003 8:31:47 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Dead or alive, I got a .45, and I never miss" - AC/DC)
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To: Scenic Sounds; Grampa Dave; glock rocks; MeeknMing
Bump & Ping
9 posted on 11/07/2003 8:36:14 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Add me to your ping list, please!
10 posted on 11/07/2003 8:37:24 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Russell Kirk, who many count among the 3 or 4 revitalizers of twentieth century conservatism, says in his Ten Conservative Principles chapter of The Politics of Prudence the following about his first of those ten principles:
First, the conservative believes there exists an enduring moral order. That order is made for man, and man is made for it: human nature is a constant, and moral truths are permenant.

This word order signifies harmony. There are two aspects or types of order: the inner order of the soul, and the outer order of the commonwealth. Twentyfive centuries ago, Plato taught this doctrine , but even the educated nowadays find it difficult to understand. The problem of order has been the principle concern of conservatives ever since conservative has become a term of politics.

Our twentieth century world has experienced the hideous consequences of the collapse of belief in a moral order. Like the atrocities and disasters of Greece in the fifth century before Christ, the ruin of great nations in our century shows us the pit into which fall societies that mistake clever self-interest, or ingenious social controls, for pleasing alternatives to an oldfangled moral order.

It has been said by liberal intellectuals, that the conservative believes all social questions, at heart, to be questions of private morality. Properly understood, this statement is quite true. A society in which men and women are governed by belief in an enduring moral order, by a strong sense of right and wrong, by personal convictions about justice and honor, will be a good society -- whatever political machinery it may utilize, while a society in which men and women are morally adrift, ignorant of norms, and intent chiefly upon gratification of appetites, will be a bad society -- no matter how many people vote and no matter how liberal its formal constitution may be.

So, you see, you are in the grand tradition with your observations.
11 posted on 11/07/2003 8:44:24 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: Scenic Sounds
Conservatism and Morality are one and the same. There is no separation.
12 posted on 11/07/2003 8:44:31 AM PST by Killborn (Half Thai, Half American, 95% Conservative, 100% Insane)
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To: Killborn
Conservatism and Morality are one and the same. There is no separation.

Do you believe that one can be a moral liberal?

13 posted on 11/07/2003 8:52:45 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Me caigo a mis rodillas y hablo a las estrellas de plata. "¿Qué misterios usted está encubriendo?")
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To: Scenic Sounds
Thanks for the post.
14 posted on 11/07/2003 8:53:17 AM PST by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: Scenic Sounds
Do you believe that one can be a moral liberal?

I would say that a moral Liberal is a Liberal who believes the following:

Abortion is wrong.
Disarming crime victims is wrong.
Homosexual sex is wrong.
Redistribution of wealth from producers to parasites is wrong.

Find me a moral Liberal. You can't.

15 posted on 11/07/2003 8:57:52 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
What do you know about it, anyway? ;)
16 posted on 11/07/2003 9:00:31 AM PST by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: Scenic Sounds; Cathryn Crawford
Very well-written piece, Cathryn. Only one minor writing nit.

Don't say "in closing." Just close the piece with your strongest summation. "In closing" subliminally instructs the reader to stop paying attention - precisely at the one moment you want their full concentration.

In fact, the way you wrote the piece, you could just remove those two words and it would still make perfect sense.

Man, I LOVE talent! Keep up the great work.

Michael

17 posted on 11/07/2003 9:00:55 AM PST by Wright is right! (Never get excited about ANYTHING by the way it looks from behind.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Find me a moral Liberal. You can't.

How long are you gonna give me to find one? ;-)

18 posted on 11/07/2003 9:05:10 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Me caigo a mis rodillas y hablo a las estrellas de plata. "¿Qué misterios usted está encubriendo?")
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To: Wright is right!
Thank you. I'll keep that in mind next week.

I need as many tips as I can get. :-)
19 posted on 11/07/2003 9:07:22 AM PST by Cathryn Crawford (Algunos misterios son tan profundos y maravillosos que deben ser explorados para ser entendido.)
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To: Coop; Travis McGee; Squantos; Eaker
What do you think, guys - are we moral?
20 posted on 11/07/2003 9:08:01 AM PST by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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