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Dean 'Appalled' That Florida Lawmakers Saved Schiavo
CNSNEWS.com ^
| 11/07/03
| Jeff Johnson
Posted on 11/07/2003 2:31:27 AM PST by kattracks
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TROLL ALERT!!!!!
Type 2 Trolls - Revised Coral Snake Troll Scale (Kill 'n' Burners) on this thread!!!!
And I thought we got rid of these jerks today. :c(
101
posted on
11/07/2003 5:01:47 PM PST
by
Coral Snake
(deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
To: jwalsh07
If you support that order you are a statist of the first orderFor all that feel they support that order, repeat jwalsh07's statement as necessary until you finally realize that you are a statist.
102
posted on
11/07/2003 5:03:34 PM PST
by
EGPWS
To: jwalsh07
If you support that order you are a statist of the first order.My kudo's again to you.
You have shown in this controversy, wherein lies the problem.
To: kattracks
"Culture of death" alert.
104
posted on
11/07/2003 5:20:47 PM PST
by
HIDEK6
To: sweetliberty
I don't know if there is a transcript or not I will look later! It was very positive and he spoke of the case also for guardianship. He spoke about her at the beginning of his show and about the case with Jeb Bush!
I got bits and pieces as my mother called and my daughter at 4 years locked herself in the bedroom and could not get the door unlocked so I was taking the door apart. You know how that goes when there is something on that you really, really want to hear everything is going on around you!
Just part of life I guess! LOL
MCD
105
posted on
11/07/2003 5:28:19 PM PST
by
MSCASEY
To: MSCASEY
"my daughter at 4 years locked herself in the bedroom and could not get the door unlocked so I was taking the door apart" Ah yes, I remember the night when my daughter, not quite 2 then, locked herself in the bathroom and we had to take the door off to get her out.
106
posted on
11/07/2003 5:31:47 PM PST
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: kattracks
Earlier in the year, Dean publicly expressed his support for physician-assisted suicide."Dr. Kevorkian! Dr. Kevorkian! You have an urgent call on Line 2!!"
107
posted on
11/07/2003 5:33:03 PM PST
by
Gritty
To: sweetliberty
I think it has to happen with each kid at least once! LOL
MCD
108
posted on
11/07/2003 5:36:35 PM PST
by
MSCASEY
To: kattracks
Is Dr. Dean a brother to Dr. Death? A judge ordered Terri Schiavo's feeding tube removed so she could "starve to death". One government official acts to kill another human being while a host of government officials strive to save a human life from certain destruction....yet, Dr. Dean condemns the people who more concretely followed the Hippocratic Oath. Something wrong here? You bet! Dr Dean would have the sheep submit to death by government decree, if he had
his way. Like the NAZI's of old, who summarily sentenced those deemed unworthy to consume the same oxygen as the deemed "fit", so too does Dr. Dean undoubtedly harbor the desire to kill those he contends are unfit to live. Why not? Dr. Dean's a doctor!
He's also a far Left Demoncrat.
That figures.
To: sweetliberty
Wow! Check out the website
http://www.aclj.org/ it has all these stories!
The Schiavo Case
ACLJ News Release: ACLJ Goes Back to Court on Behalf of Parents of Terri Schindler Schiavo
FL Sun-Sentinel: Terri's Parents File Brief Defending "Terri's Law"
ACLJ Motion: Schiavo's Parents Motion for Rehearing
ACLJ Brief: Schiavo's Parents Amicus Brief
CNS News: Guardianship at Issue in Terry Schiavo Case
Reuters: FL Gov Asks Court to Dismiss Schiavo Suit
WorldNetDaily: FL Court Rejects Motion for Terri's Parents to Intervene
Tampa Tribune: Schiavo's Parents Left Out of Battle Over Terri's Law
AP: Court Denies Motion for Terri's Parents to Intervene
ACLJ Motion for Leave to Intervene on Behalf of Schiavo's Parents
Here is a breif from todays show:
Updates on Important Issues
Jay and Gene discuss developments over the last few days on the following topics:
Schiavo Case: The ACLJ has filed an amicus brief on behalf of Robert and Mary Schindler, parents of Terri Schiavo, the brain-damaged woman at the center of a dispute over whether she should live or die. We are asking the court to affirm the constitutionality of "Terri's Law," which allowed Florida Governor Jeb Bush to order that the feeding and hydration tubes keeping Terri alive be reinserted.
Here is the link at the bottom of the page you can listen to todays show!!!!
http://www.aclj.org/jsl/031107.asp MCD
110
posted on
11/07/2003 5:51:52 PM PST
by
MSCASEY
To: MSCASEY
My grandkids used to do that to annoy Granpa. I fixed their wagons. I put the locks on the outside and locked them in. :-}
To: kattracks
So much for going after the "Bubba" vote.
112
posted on
11/07/2003 6:01:09 PM PST
by
Mudbug
To: jwalsh07
Thats to funny! Good for Grandpa!!!
No, mine wanted out but did not know how to unlock the door today! It may have been locked when she closed the door and she did not equate it because she was not the one who locked it! Generally if she locks the door we tell her to unlock it and there is no problem!
Grandpa finally came over and took the door jam off! She said " You saved me BUBA!" So she was happy!
MCD
113
posted on
11/07/2003 6:03:55 PM PST
by
MSCASEY
To: jwalsh07
I should have said good for you for fixing them up!!
MCD
114
posted on
11/07/2003 6:05:17 PM PST
by
MSCASEY
To: The Other Harry
First of all, Terri's in a hospice facility, has been for years. So she's not preventing anyone from living but rather occupies a room that another would use to die. Bad analogy.
Secondly, with regard to the media, they've been reporting her as "comatose" religiously. Her husband's doctors don't even go that far. I invite you to read this article for perspective.
Third, why do you think her "next-of-kin" only remembered her wishes years after her collapse, a few short weeks after she was awarded close to a million dollars in a malpractice suit? Any idea why he spoke under oath of his desire to take care of her for the rest of her life, never once mentioning to the court that she would in fact rather die?
In addition, her "husband" has a live-in fiance and 2 children by her. Can you honestly say that you see no conflict there? If Terri could speak, do you really think she would want her "husband" to continue making decisions on her behalf?
And lastly, Terri has survived infections, pneumonia, a decade of no therapy, drastically restricted visitors, an intentionally cheerless room, and a total of ten days without a feeding tube. At what point do we decide that maybe she might be displaying a pretty strong will to live?
115
posted on
11/07/2003 6:05:57 PM PST
by
agrace
To: kattracks
And, can anybody tell me when Dr. Dean examined Terry Schiavo or consulted with the physicians who are treating Terry Schiavo? I'm so sorry to ask, but for a physician to be appalled at a course of treatment wouldn't he need to find out what the hell is going on?
116
posted on
11/07/2003 6:10:46 PM PST
by
jimfree
("Never did no wanderin' after all.")
To: sport
Why is it that you never see the individuals that advocate that it is,"A duty to Die" or it is, "Your Right to Die", never leading by example? Or phrased another way, Why is it that they only want you to die and never them?
Well said. This also applies to the over-population fanatics. If they were sincere in their conviction that the planet has way too many people, none of them would have even one child (many of them are indeed childless, but not all) and if they were really the benefactors they imagine themselves to be, they would be starving themelves to death as we speak.
But they really think there's just too many "other people".
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posted on
11/07/2003 7:22:49 PM PST
by
First Amendment
(Hi relatives! Why not register on FR and join the debate?)
To: mac_truck
While both patients require someone else to care for them, only one is aware of their surroundings and has the ability to understand and communicate.Being aware of surroundings and communicating are two different things. You must have either read practically nothing about Terri Schindler and this case, or you have personally tested her and determined through much testing that she has no awareness (thus contradicting many other physicians, relatives and so on).
Even people in comas have come out of them and said that they heard what was going on while in an apparently unconscious state. What makes you so all-knowing that you can say with assurance that Terri has no awareness?
Sometimes this boils down to the fact that some people see the purpose of life solely as the untrammeled ability to enjoy the senses, work and make money, be a solid citizen and so on. While these are worthy acts, the lack of ability to do these does not abrogate one's right to breathe air. Other people see the purpose of life as something deeper, that can be fulfilled or served even while lying in bed unable to care for oneself.
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posted on
11/07/2003 7:32:49 PM PST
by
First Amendment
(Hi relatives! Why not register on FR and join the debate?)
To: The Other Harry
The hospital room and the resperator rightfully belong to someone who might live. Giving them to someone who can't live is morally wrong. It takes them away from those who can.She is not in a hospital room, but a hospice room (and she isn't eligible for that; hospices are supposed to be for people who are judged to have less than 6 months to live, and no special care is given). She is not on a respirator for God's sake! You must have read zero about this case if you think she is on a respirator. Why don't you inform yourself?
Additionally, her parents and siblings want to care for her themselves.
This pisses me off more than any other subject I have ever encountered.
So why do you want her dead? It sounds as though you have some unresolved issues about your father that are leaking into Terri's situation. I humbly suggest you look into your own heart and straighten your own issues out.
119
posted on
11/07/2003 7:39:12 PM PST
by
First Amendment
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To: huck von finn
Not many true conservatives I know are comfortable with the government determining who should live and who should die. The government's job is to protect the life and liberty of its citizens. Bush and the FL Legistlature is trying to do that for Terri.
Dean's point was that the government should not intrude into such things.
No, Dean's point is that he loves death, like other pro-abortion and pro-"assisted suicide" (aka as euthanasia) leftists. He's perfectly fine with all kinds of government intrusion.
By "such things" do you mean that government shouldn't intrude in saving the life of someone while someone else is trying to murder that person? That's "intrusion"?
He's right.
No, he's just choosing the side of the people who want to kill her - a so-called husband who wants her dead for his own personal reasons, and Felos-the-lawyer who is also in love with death and dying.
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posted on
11/07/2003 7:50:49 PM PST
by
First Amendment
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