Abraham Lincoln Was Elected President 143 Years Ago Tonight

http://www.nytimes.com ^ | 11/06/2003 | RepublicanWizard

[republicanwizard]

Astounding Triumph of Republicanism.

THE NORTH RISING IN INDIGNATION AT THE MENACES OF THE SOUTH

Abraham Lincoln Probably Elected President by a Majority of the Entire Popular Vote

Forty Thousand Majority for the Republican Ticket in New-York

One Hundred Thousand Majority in Pennsylvania

Seventy Thousand Majority in Massachusetts

Corresponding Gains in the Western and North-Western States

Preponderance of John Bell and Conservatism at the South

Results of the Contest upon Congressional and Local Tickets

The canvass for the Presidency of the United States terminated last evening, in all the States of the Union, under the revised regulation of Congress, passed in 1845, and the result, by the vote of New-York, is placed beyond question at once. It elects ABRAHAM LINCOLN of Illinois, President, and HANNIBAL HAMLIN of Maine, Vice-President of the United States, for four years, from the 4th March next, directly by the People.

The election, so far as the City and State of New-York are concerned, will probably stand, hereafter as one of the most remarkable in the political contests of the country; marked, as it is, by far the heaviest popular vote ever cast in the City, and by the sweeping, and almost uniform, Republican majorities in the country.

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[GOPcapitalist]

And since the most famous 'victim' of the habeas corpus suspension, John Merryman, was arrested for terrorist activites (he burned a bridge)

So burning a bridge is a terrorist activity? Funny, cause I thought they blew up busses and innocent people.

[Non-Sequitur]

So burning a bridge is a terrorist activity? Funny, cause I thought they blew up busses and innocent people.

Maybe Merryman got tired of waiting for the bus?

[labard1]

I haven't even "condemned" Lincoln. So far I have mainly maintained that Reagan was a greater president, based on what he actually accomplished for oppressed people (with minimal loss of life). The fact that every political hero has some imperfections isn't really a "comdemnation."

I don't like Lincoln (this is, after all the rhetoric, a free country), but that doesn't mean I want to reinstitute slavery or that I want to overthrow the government. Too many posters are ready to smear anyone who doesn't worship Mr. Lincoln. One of the wonderful things about this country is that one can disagree about the merits of any politician, living or dead, and still be a good citizen. Lincoln ranks much higher in my estimation than most GOP members of Congress during the 1860s. It's not a fast track.

I'm not a fan of the Southern "fire eaters" either. There were many voices, North and South, which were far more constructive (both Whig and Democrat), but which have been eclipsed by the more extreme forces that brought a war that I have never accepted to have been a plus for the country.

[stainlessbanner]

If they come, I'll ask the AdminMod to kick them off the thread.

Can't take the heat? Lack of confidence in defending your position before the debate starts.

[GOPcapitalist]

It should be noted that colonization was also supported by men like Robert Lee, James Madison, and John Breckenridge. Are you condemning them as well?

The world waits in silence for non-sequitur to speak, seeking his daily words of wisdom. He opens his mouth and does not fail to disappoint:

"Squack! Tu quoque! Tu quoque! Lee did it too! Squack! Tu quoque! Davis also! Squack!"

[Non-Sequitur]

"Squack! Tu quoque! Tu quoque! Lee did it too! Squack! Tu quoque! Davis also! Squack!"

I suppose I should be grateful that you didn't call me 'boy' again.

[GOPcapitalist]

Maybe Merryman got tired of waiting for the bus?

A terrorist is by definition one who inflicts destruction upon innocent others as a means of intimidating them into accepting a desired political outcome.

Merryman burned a bridge not for this reason but rather to prevent Massachussetts troops from travelling through the city of Baltimore where their presence was inciting mass rioting. Thus to call him a "terrorist" is incorrect.

[DeepDish]

You are right, I was wrong to say that the population requirement was spelled out in the constitution. That requirement is set by the congress. I directed that post not at you specificaly but at the "Lincoln really did not free the slaves" people. I wanted to point out that he was working towards that end ,sucessfuly, when he was killed. It's pretty hard to finish the job with a bullet in the brain.

[Natural Law]

Please refute where you think you have better information.

[Natural Law]

If you suppose that the worst that could have happened would have happened then you are right. However, there is every reason to believe that a peaceful reconciliation within the confines of the original constitution would have happened. Another more probable outcome would have been a very peaceful and mutually beneficial and dependent relationship between the North and South.

As far as I can tell, we are well along the way to a Socialist USA anyway.

[from occupied ga]

Dilorenzo's book incenses a lot of liberal yankee freepers. As far as I'm concerned Lincoln was America's first socialist military dictator.

[from occupied ga]

Acquiring land seems to have been one of his main goals in life.

He wasn't lavishly supported by the taxpayers like today's bureaucrats are.

[Ditto]

"launched a military invasion without consent of Congress"

Excuse me? Congress was not in session when the United States was attacked. When they returned, they approved each and every one of the actions Lincoln took under his powers via the Militia Act of 1793. The first significant battle took place after congress gave full authorization for military action.

[Ditto]

Reading DeLierenzo to learn about Lincoln is the same as reading Barbra Striesand to learn about Reagan.

[TexConfederate1861]

What a waste of a good bullet.....:)

A rope would have been more appropriate!

[stand watie]

gee thanks, shuckmaster.free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

gee thanks, shuckmaster.

i could've gone all day without seeing the ugly mug of the TYRANT & WAR CRIMINAL posted on FR!

free dixie,sw

[shuckmaster]

lol

[stand watie]

!!!!!

[varina davis]

Brings to mind the present-day bumper sticker: "Don't blame me -- I voted for Jefferson Davis"