- Michael LeBoeuf
Posted on 11/06/2003 7:28:30 AM PST by SheLion
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| Every company's greatest assets are its customers, because without customers there is no company. - Michael LeBoeuf |
Businesses Harmed by Smoking Bans
Anti-smoking organizations insist that bans are somehow good for people in hospitality businesses. This chart shows otherwise. These businesses have lost a significant portion of their business as a direct result of smoking bans. Many are closed. Many that are still open have told us they doubt they'll survive much longer.
Most of this information comes directly from businesses that have contacted me or my colleagues. Some comes from newspaper articles. Blank spaces in the chart represent data that is unavailable, or that doesn't apply. (For instance, a distributor doesn't receive tips, and many owner-operators of small taverns don't have any employees other than themselves and family members.)
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Crocodile Cafe Restaurant Closed 100% 100% Tempe AZ Pooch's Easy Street Billiards Pool Hall Closed 100% 100% Tempe AZ Laurel Bowl Bowling Alley Closed 100% 100% San Luis Obispo CA 385 league bowlers quit when the smoking ban went into effect, with a loss of $200,000. Laurel Bowl had been in business for 37 years before the ban. Alexander Mackenzie Inn Hotel Not Yet 92% 16 Fort St. John CAN "Since we were `beaten' into compliance by the WCB, our business has dropped in the lounge from $1,000 a day to $80. " Beacon Hill Arms Tavern Closed 100% 100% Ottawa CAN Dave O'Connor, who successfully ran Ottawa's Beacon Hill Arms pub for nine years, said the ban forced him out of business. "From September to February, we lost close to $80,000 in sales" Bud's Place Tavern Not Yet 23% Cambrage CAN Gardeli's Bar/Restaurant Closed 100% 100% Castlegar CAN Hemingway's Bar/Restaraunt Not Yet 40% 6 Ottawa CAN MacKenzie Lounge Tavern Not Yet 80% Yellowknife CAN Mingles Coffee Shoppe Coffee Shop Closed 100% 100% Kitchener CAN Rupert Pub Tavern Closed 100% 100% Prince Rupert CAN Sky Garden Restaurant Closed 100% 100% 6 Ottawa CAN "It was 100% because of the bylaw. Sales dropped 50%. Our cups of coffee were down 400 to 500 a day, our meals 20 to 30 a day." The Patch Tavern Not Yet 70% St. Albert CAN Tubbys Pizza Pizza Parlor Not Yet 20% 2 Crescentwood CAN Back Stage Cafe Bar/Restaurant Closed 100% 100% 20 Wilmington DE Coach House Bar/Restaurant Closed 100% 100% 8 Wilmington DE Just Mugs Saloon Tavern Not Yet 33% Bear DE Naamans Cafe Restaurant Closed 100% 100% 8 Wilmington DE Elks #1795 Lodge (Private Club) Not Yet 40% 22% Fort Walton FL "Charity money is down 45%. Our Charities are Kids of Florida and the Veterans. That is who is really getting hurt the most by this!" Elks #2256 Lodge (Private Club) Not Yet 20% 30% Pensacola Beach FL "We've lost 70 members because of the ban" Elks #2273 Lodge (Private Club) Not Yet 60% 60% 1 Plantation FL Melons Bar & Grill Bar/Restruant Not Yet 50% Port Charlotte FL The Falls Restaurant Closed 100% 100% Naples FL "We lost 70 percent of our income," Renzello said. "The law put us out of business." 90 percent of her customers were smokers. Bart's Bar/Restaurant Closed 100% 100% Louisville CO Bart's had been in operation for nearly 30 years. Gold Mine Restaraunt Bar/Restaraunt Not Yet 50% 50% 2 Fall River MA "There should be places for both the smoker and nonsmoker. I do not smoke but you are killing our business!!! " Buffalo Wings and Beer Bar/Restruant Not Yet 50% Gaithersburg MD Gentleman Jim's Restaurant Not Yet 40% Gaithersburg MD J.J. Muldoon's Bar/Restaurant Not Yet 20% Gaithersburg MD Middlebrook Restaurant and Lounge Bar/Restaurant Not Yet 50% Germantown MD "I'm so bitter today because I have worked too hard to keep this business going. It's just not fair." Pelican Pete's Restaurant Not Yet 60% Germantown MD Tommy Joe's Restaurant Restruant Not Yet 30% Bethesda MD Nutshell Tavern Tavern Closed 100% 100% Biddeford ME Village Variety Closed 100% Fryeburg ME Grandma's Restaraunt Not Yet 33% Cloquet MN Perkins Restaraunt Not Yet 26% Duluth MN Aessa Bar/Restaurant Not Yet 35% 6 New York NY Argyle's EasyStreet Tavern Tavern Not Yet 12% Cortland NY Athens Cafe Restaurant Not Yet 55% 10 Astoria NY Blessed Sacrament Church Bingo Not Yet 50% Albany NY Brazen Head Pub Tavern Not Yet 40% Monroe NY Brown Shanty Tavern Not Yet 20% 1 Watertown NY Champions Billiards Cafe Brew Pub/Pool Hall Not Yet 33% Parkville NY Chili American Legion Post 1830 Private Club Not Yet 70% Scottsville NY Coleman's Irish Pub Bar/Restaurant Not Yet 19% 4 Syracuse NY Crossroads Steak House Restaurant Closed 100% 100% Kennedy NY Delmar Sportsman's Tavern Tavern Not Yet 30% 1 Massena NY "We had hoped...nonsmokers who haven't been frequenting taverns due to the smoke-filled air would make up for at least some of the financial loss. Unfortunately, at least in our place, this has most definitely not happened. Our sales are at an all time low" Desperado's Tavern Not Yet 90% Wallkill NY "I can count on my fingers the people who don't smoke who come in here. The regulars say they won't come." Dodesters Tavern Not Yet 9% Syracuse NY Eagle Beverage Company Distributor Not Yet 25% N/A Oswego NY "Deliveries to pubs and taverns have decreased substantially, greater than 25 percent." Edigan's Restaurant Closed 100% 100% Binghamton NY End Zone Bar/Restaurant Not Yet 30% 1 Liverpool NY Euzkadi Restaurant Not Yet 50% New York NY Fiddler's Green Tavern Closed 100% 100% New York NY We have just lost too many customers to this law, which I did not vote for, bar owners did not vote for, bartenders did not vote for, and the public did not vote for." Finish Line Bar/Restaurant Not Yet 40% 2 Bellerose NY Fountain Bowl Bowling Alley Not Yet 40% N/A 8 Jamestown NY Golden Rail Ale House Tavern Not Yet 75% Newburgh NY Harry's Hanover Square Bar/Restaraunt Closed 100% 100 New York NY "Overnight, we lost 60 percent of our evening bar trade. For the bar, it was the difference in profit and loss. Sales of expensive cigars had been almost as important as the sales of Scotch" Harry's had been in business for more than thirty years Holmes & Watson's Tavern Not Yet 30% Troy NY Hotel McDonald Hotel Not Yet 70% Bath NY Just One More Tavern Not Yet 30% Bath NY Liberty Lanes Bowling Not Yet 27% Camden NY Mama Lena's Restaurant Closed 100% 100% Binghamton NY Mama Lena's had been in business for more than 40 years. Mel's Place Tavern Not Yet 78% 100% Falconer NY "When we bought this place, we throught we were buying our American Dream. We ran it successfully for 10 years. Now the government is stripping us from making a living. " Middleport Inn Bar/Restaurant Closed 100% 100% 13 Middleport NY "This damn state really knows how to kill people's dreams." Millennium Restaurant Not Yet 40% 3 New York NY Nibsy's Pub Bar/Restaurant Not Yet 18% Syracuse NY Rafferty's Bar/Restaurant Not Yet 35% 2 Syracuse NY Richard's Ole Timer Bar/Restaurant Not Yet 17% 1 Clay NY Roesch's Tavern Tavern Closed 100% 100% 5 New York NY This had been a family business for more than a century Salingers Tavern Not Yet 35% 2 Rochester NY Sevens Bar Tavern Not Yet 10% Malone NY Shamrock Tavern Tavern Not Yet 50% Oswego NY "It's not right. Our livelihood is being taken away." Slade Restaurant Not Yet 40% New York NY Slick Willie's Billiard Hall Not Yet 25% Tonawanda NY Stumble Inn Tavern Closed 100% 100% Champlain NY Taylor's Trackside Bar/Restaurant Not Yet 50% Remsen NY Temple Israel Bingo Not Yet 50% Albany NY According to Herb Holland, some of the regulars told volunteers that they would abstain from playing bingo, to protest the smoking ban. He hasn't seen them since. The Lilly Pad Tavern Closed 100% 100% Falconer NY The Lodge at the Lake Inc Bar/Restaurant Not Yet 50% 1 Broadalbin NY The Loft Tavern Not Yet 30% Frewsburg NY "Our town has no attractions to draw in outsiders. We have only locals to rely on as patrons and 95% of them smoke. It will be worse when the snow sets in." The Roadhouse Tavern Not Yet 40% Brewster NY Thompson Road Tavern Bar/Restaurant Not Yet 25% Syracuse NY Village Tavern Bar/Restaurant Not Yet 10% Marcellus NY Bliss' Steak Ranch Restaurant Closed 100% 100% Eugene OR Closed after 32 years in business Doc's Pad Tavern Closed 100% 100% 24 Eugene OR "Let's face it, the economy is horrible. But for us specifically, the smoking ban was the knockout punch." The Olsen family had owned Doc's for 16 years. Max's Tavern Tavern Closed 100% 100% Eugene OR The Peacock Tavern Not Yet 40% Corvallis OR Connor owned the Peacock for years - and says it was the ban that caused him to sell the bar. He says business gross fell from $1.5 million in 1997, the year before the ban went into effect, to $900,000 last year. China One Restaurant Closed 100% 100 Round Rock TX
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Many here are crying about a regulation - as though there are not regulations on all types of businesses and the like. If half of these people believed what they said they would fight liquor licenses and most other regulations. That is not what they are fighting, they are fighting the ban on smoking. Well, I think the government has the right to ban it - I just think it is dumb and that there is a middle ground that comes close to satisfying both sides.
Geez -- you'd better let all those researchers who are stymied by the dramatic rise in asthma know that you've figured it out! They're still theorizing about and investigating things like cockroach droppings (true) and overvaccination preventing proper development of the immune system (true), and probably lots of other things.
CinFla has lost all credibility
He's a liberal DU troll who constantly argues with others on FR. He has more interest in others' lives than his own and will stop at nothing on his insane quest to control all other Americans by using government force. He is one of the most dangerous breed of American.
In other words, "I think the government has a right to use lethal force to make private business owners run their business a certain way. I favor government interference in business."
Huh? What are you talking about?
What is it that you think prevents the States or cities from enacting anti-smoking legislation? Please enlighten me. Cite where you are protected from a State law or City ord.?
Do you believe this crap?
Very well said Dave!!!!
Except for bingo halls, you are describing to a "T" the type places I frequent. I'll check with a few of my owner friends to see if they will permit me to give give you their info - I hope they do because the numbers are devastating.
Glad to see you!!!!
Anytime anyone retorts "good, I hope you enjoy no rights because you want no compromise" indicates to me that someone believes his own personal preferences are superior to anyone elses. Again, if you don't own a business, you shouldn't have any right whatsoever to vote to impose such rules on business owners. Our forefathers thought carefully about that when they constructed the Constitution. Can you imagine if 20% of the people are property owners and the other 80% can vote to have them "donate" property to "the society"? What if I used all my wages to buy income property and you used all yours for gambling in casinos. Should you have the right to vote for laws to force me to give you free rent because you're now destitute? Well, why should you force business owners to suffer economically to give you something?
Well, I think the government has the right to ban it - I just think it is dumb and that there is a middle ground that comes close to satisfying both sides.
There is no middle ground. The anti-smokers have not honored past compromises and they have proven they will not be appeased. This is like the steady and continuous encroachment of the white man on the indians. I can't believe we have freepers who advocate not honoring treaties between the US federal government and the various Indian nations. I gave examples of the continual encroachment, from separate smoking areas to ventilation standards at considerable expense to business owners, yet a few years later government, at the urging of anti-smoking lobbyists, comes back and says no good, butts out everywhere. That constitutes a taking of property without just compensation. In your "arguments" now, you still fail to even address a single one of Phantom Lord's or my arguments against licensing.
And you want no government inspections of restaurants and no minimum sanitary regulations, etc. Well, sounds nice on paper - I prefer some government regulations to none.
I didn't say anything like that at all. Even though this is not a health and safety issue, but a social issue, I do disagree with many other health and safety issues that restrict free choice, such as helmet laws and seat belt laws. If this were a health and safety issue for employees, then the ban in NY would exempt owner operated places with no employees outside the family. Even your California ban is not all inclusive and there are bars run by sole proprietors who are exempt. Funny how the anti-smokers never disclose that fact.
Might I suggest you read up on the Constitution and its implications towards private property rights. Now that doesn't mean I espouse an "anything goes" mentality. There are reasonable restrictions limiting things that effect other adjacent properties, such as discharging wastes into public waterways, or those where toxins leach into underground aquifers. But smoking on the premises of a business owner affects no one but those who choose to patronize his business. These laws are an unacceptable encroachment on private property rights.
55% said laughter could cause an attack.Be careful the statists will use this as an excuse to try to ban laughing. (they of course have an ulterior motive as they are the type of people who are laughed at more than they laugh).
-Eric
Me too!!!
I was born and raised in Brooklyn, but more and more I've found I rather not to mention that tidbit of info. When I meet new folks here in Virginia and they ask me where I'm from I simply say I moved here from Delaware.
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